dyst Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Good move by the Chiefs. We would have franchise tagged him for two years then lost him for nothing. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, actorguy1 said: No way. How much he slated to make? Edited March 23, 2022 by Chris 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebestian Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said: This is what good teams do when a star player demands the money that they have rightly earned but that unfortunately you just can't afford to pay. You trade them for maximum value now rather than trying to convince them to stay here for less money or even worse play the annual franchise tag game; that at best leads to a potential late third round pick years later BUT ONLY if you don't sign any free agents that year that would cancel out the future compensatory pick. Andy Reid the master does it again! Edited March 23, 2022 by sebestian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, OtisDriftwood25 said: Tyreek Hill is a fun discussion. Would have 50 million invested in 2 receivers at the start of the year though once mcclaurin is done. See the dolphins have waddle for cheap next 3 years then can give Hill the boot year 4. I mean, that woulda been the end of the discussion right there. That's an insane amount tied up in WR, I dont care who they are. Five draft picks and a huge extension. That is bold when the guy getting him the ball is still trying to convince people he doesn't suck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: I'm inclined to agree, but if we have a few WRs we like I hope we consider a small move back. I really like Christian Watson from NDSU though and that 29/30 range is a good value spot. Plus Dean or Brisker could be value picks at the other pick too. Watson + Brisker + Christian Harris or Olave + Harris, you know? The problem with these "name a bunch of guys that are semi possible via online mock drafts" scenarios is simple: It NEVER works out that way. Ever. Brisker vs. Hamilton - Who is better? Watkins vs. London - Who is better? Lloyd vs. Muma - Who is better? Dean vs. Harris - Who is better? The only one of those that is even remotely close is Dean vs. Harris and it's not that close. Harris is more of the old school MIKE than he is the ILB we need. Though I do love the way he plays. Olave won't be the only receiver available at 11. If he is, then someone else is there of that group: Gardner Williams Thibs Hutch Hamilton Davis Stingley London Wilson Olave Cross Linenbaum Willis Pickett Lloyd Dean Among others. That's 16 guys. At least 6 of that list will be on the board. To pass on them for Brisker or Watkins would be literally nuts. Edited March 23, 2022 by KDawg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I kindof think it's their version of "Look over here away from our idiot owner and the lawsuits" We're not the only team that does it. Starting to get the feel that we're definitely not alone in our complaints about our idiot owner. I think the last owner with class and grace, mighta been ole Georgia and her Rams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, CobraCommander said: Who is throwing the ball to them? I honestly don't know. Tua? 7 minutes ago, Chump Bailey said: Should be Tua to start but not sure how long the leash is with TB there now too. 5 minutes ago, CobraCommander said: Only TB that matters is Tom Brady. I think they gave up a lot for a team that doesn't have a stud QB on a rookie deal. Fitzpatrick is still available 15 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I honest to God don't think we should have done that. I'd prefer to draft a guy, keep the picks and keep the cap space. Betting that much on a skill position player almost never works out. Also, we NEVER get the right end of a deal with Reid. If he doesn't want to pay the guy and is ok shipping him out, I'm going with we shouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. He knows. He knows everything. Oh I absolutely would never have made that deal unless I was the one getting all those picks lol. Totally kidding 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Chris 44 said: No way. How much he slated to make? I think I read or heard 120 mil over four years. Not sure about guarantees. If anyone knows different please correct me. Edited March 23, 2022 by CommanderInTheRye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Dear Jeebus that trade for Hill. Ummm.... Can we get that kind of return for Terry? Not even joking, that is bonkers. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, KDawg said: To pass on them for Brisker or Watkins would be literally nuts. Not trying to bring draft thread stuff into the FA thread, but just to respond here. We have drafted really well lately. I would trust this FO to nail the picks. I would trust them to nail #11 too, but I wouldn't say trading #11 for #29 and #30 would mean we don't get any "dudes" ... The all-pro hit rate differential between #11 and #29 historically can't be *that* significant, and I like the idea of having 2 shots at Round 1 talent that might fall a bit, especially on a team that has 2 major holes, and depth/lng-term upside needs at several other spots that currently just has 2 picks in the Tp 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oraphus Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 That's what a smart FO does.. trades top flight players when they can get value knowing that they will not be able to resign him long term. Dumb FO franchises players multiple times and then lets them walk for nothing when they get too expensive. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, FootballZombie said: Dear Jeebus that trade for Hill. Ummm.... Can we get that kind of return for Terry? Not even joking, that is bonkers. For some this will be blasphemy but if we realize that the only way to retain Terry is to franchise him we need to be willing to pursue trading him rather than going down the franchise tag rabbit hole. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 34 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: Pick 29+30 = 1260 Pick 11 = 1240 Would you? Not a chance. Nowhere near enough. 5 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: Dear Jeebus that trade for Hill. Ummm.... Can we get that kind of return for Terry? Not even joking, that is bonkers. Would you consider 2 firsts from KC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: Dear Jeebus that trade for Hill. Ummm.... Can we get that kind of return for Terry? Not even joking, that is bonkers. If we could get a 1rst and change like that for Terry, I'd help him pack. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: Dear Jeebus that trade for Hill. Ummm.... Can we get that kind of return for Terry? Not even joking, that is bonkers. I'd call the Jets right now and dangle Terry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Reid will trade Hill for 2 first rounders, draft Bo Melton in the 3rd round(round earlier than projected) and in 2 years when Hill is retired everyone will be questioning how Bo slipped out of the first round. I think they’ll pick Calvin Austin III in the mid rounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Est.1974 said: Not a chance. Nowhere near enough. Would you consider 2 firsts from KC? I would, but only if I knew the status of the talks with Terry. If he and his agent were pushing for the tag route, then I would, absolutely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, duffy said: I'd call the Jets right now and dangle Terry. So would I to gauge what you’d get for sure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: Not a chance. Nowhere near enough. Would you consider 2 firsts from KC? Yes...and I love Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: Would you consider 2 firsts from KC? I'd try to squeeze a mid rounder since KC's pick is "bad" but heck yeah. Love Terry, but you gotta make a move like that. I'd trade anyone on this team not named Young for that and that's only b/c he has several years of rookie deal left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: Not a chance. Nowhere near enough. I get your stance, and if we hadn't lost our 3rd, I'd probably agree with you. But there's bound to be several guys I still really like available late 1st, early 2nd. I think I'd prefer to get two guys there than take a shot on one I don't love at 11. It really just depends on who is available when we're on the clock. I know that probably isn't the most popular opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Chump Bailey said: Hill and Waddle on the field together is going to be ridiculous. Their reactions will be ridiculous when Tua continuously throws dirt balls in front of them. Edited March 23, 2022 by ExoDus84 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 19 hours ago, Est.1974 said: With height and speed, receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling is a proven deep threat. Among receivers with at least 100 receptions since the start of the 2018 season, Valdes-Scantling ranks No. 1 in the NFL with 17.5 yards per receptions – a full yard better than anyone else. In 2020, he led the NFL in yards per catch (20.9) and 40-yard receptions (six) and tied for second in 40-yard touchdowns (four). In 2021, he caught 26 passes (matching his career low) for 430 yards (career low) because he missed six games due to injuries. Previously, he had played in all 48 career games. After dropping 15 passes in his first three seasons, he didn’t drop any in 2021. Will be getting paid by KC very soon I’d imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Est.1974 said: Will be getting paid by KC very soon I’d imagine. Yeah he makes a lot of sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, duffy said: Yeah he makes a lot of sense Was after a one year 7-10mil deal, with GB hanging on the phone to match/beat any offer he gets. Think KC may just take him off the market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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