redskinss Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Watson is definately going to pittsburgh and play with Tomlin. **** these whities (for bettter or worse) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, CommanderInTheRye said: Don't forget he's packing 10 solid inches! Nick Foles: Pfft. Amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KillBill26 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 44 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said: We have to give Houston a package so overwhelming that they will have incentive to convince Watson to agree to waive his no trade clause to come here or they won't trade him anywhere else. If we could parlay a package including Wentz our next three first rounders, a 2nd this year, and a d-lineman of their choice (including Chase Young if they choose him) into DeShaun Watson I'd do it in a heartbeat! We win the NFC East hands down and are serious contenders for the superbowl. "Make it so." J.L. Picard Houston would rather have Davis mills at less than a mil, and under control for 3 more years, than Wentz at 28 mil per. The only way we would get Watson is if we overwhelmed Houston with a trade package that Wentz isn't a part of, and then turn around and cut Wentz or trade him for peanuts. Essentially flushing those 3rds down the toilet. And odds of that happening are the same as me playing qb for the skins next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Savvy move by Pittsburgh to pick up Flores. Entices Watson to Pittsburgh. Replaces their 15 year QB with a young star and gives them draft capital when Flores leaves to become a head coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 42 minutes ago, Zim489 said: Technically the Wentz deal hasnt happened. We can back out if we want. We can "fail" his physical if we want. Our full allotment is available. Isn't that what happened to Ryan Grant several years ago? Dude got a fat contract proposal from the Ravens. When they sobered up the next day, they decided to fail his physical and cancel the deal. 500 IQ moves. 😆 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Best place for Watson is Carolina. They pick #6. Seattle also at #9. Both are before our pick. It could leave one of Pickett or Willis available for a team to trade up with us who are looking at the draft for a QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Houston will trade him to the NFC if possible. I think Seattle, Carolina, and Philly are obviously the leaders in the clubhouse. Hopefully he doesn’t go to Philly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, ExoDus84 said: Isn't that what happened to Ryan Grant several years ago? Dude got a fat contract proposal from the Ravens. When they sobered up the next day, they decided to fail his physical and cancel the deal. 500 IQ moves. 😆 Good ol' Ryan Gruden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Cold Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I think phillys been waiting for this day for a while. I look for them to make a strong push Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Stone Cold said: I think phillys been waiting for this day for a while. I look for them to make a strong push Let's hope not. Edited March 11, 2022 by RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, CommanderInTheRye said: We have to give Houston a package so overwhelming that they will have incentive to convince Watson to agree to waive his no trade clause to come here or they won't trade him anywhere else. If we could parlay a package including Wentz our next three first rounders, a 2nd this year, and a d-lineman of their choice (including Chase Young if they choose him) into DeShaun Watson I'd do it in a heartbeat! We win the NFC East hands down and are serious contenders for the superbowl. "Make it so." J.L. Picard Under the circumstances, I'd imagine his flexing of the no-trade clause is much less of a thing than people think it is. He's lucky to be anywhere and knows he gotta get out of Houston. I doubt he'd be out here blocking too many trades that keep him on ice. 21 minutes ago, mhd24 said: Houston will trade him to the NFC if possible. I think Seattle, Carolina, and Philly are obviously the leaders in the clubhouse. Hopefully he doesn’t go to Philly. I pray he doesnt wind up in Philly. Go anywhere else. That would be so on brand for this franchise. We get their reject, they get the stud just by waiting a couple days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: Eagles reporter on Keim's podcast A. He's another reporter who understands the deal from the Commanders point of view. B. He thinks losing Deflippio as his QB coach hurt -- he coaches Wentz hard and he seems to get through to him C. Super smart guy, football genius. Said the Eagles were blown away by his football intelligence, says he believes he has a photographic memory D. Because he's so smart, its a double edge sword because he is "too smart", and he has strong convictions based on that and can butt heads with coaches if he disagrees with them ala play design, etc. E. The reporter disagrees that he's a bad locker room guy. He sees him as a good guy. Another Eagles reporter on 980 said the same thing. F. He's a small circle of friends kind of guy. Pederson wanted Wentz to reach out to more players on the team beyond his circle of his friends. But the reporter doesn't think that might be a natural thing for him the way it is for Jalen Hurts. G. Foles leading them to the SB was an awkward dynamic and then when Foles left they drafted Hurts. So for Wentz it made him feel like he's not their guy especially because they gave Hurts first team reps in the mix from the jump H. Hurts and Wentz didn't interact well together. Both Alpha personalities, went both ways inluding Hurts carried himself from the jump like he's the guy. I. Thinks this situation might be good for him, a good wake up call. He might have felt all the issues he had in the past is on Philly. Now it might give him a different perspective. J. Thinks Wentz playing in this division will be great theater Said his close friends with the Eagles included: Jordan Hicks, Zach Ertz. Ironically both of them are FAs right now. I sometimes worry that Turner isn't a commanding enough guy to get through to a strong personality guy like Wentz. I say that though having no idea what kinda guy Turner is, but being a young, fairly unaccomplished and indistiguished OC, I could see Wentz tuning him out if things don't go perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I’m sure we knew we were out of the Watson market. Seems like Carolina and the Steelers are strongly linked, but it was report Pitt really wanted Wentz. No to Philly please. I think Seattle through everything at the Texans for Watson. Only logical reason I can think for the Wilson trade. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, SoCalSkins said: If he was playing hero ball he would have worse than a 27-7 int ratio. This is the nfl, you need to throw 50/50 balls. The dude has a cannon. His deep ball int is better than some punts. He did play a lot of hero-ball last season, watch his highlights. Playing hero-ball does not necessarily cause the QB any TD-interception problems as playing hero-ball is only an issue when it doesn't work. Big thing is that it does tend to cause you're sack rate to be higher than it should be and it could lead to bad TD-interception ratios if you don't have the personnel to support the play. We got one of the best 50-50 guys and other guys that are used to making contested catches along with an above average oline which increases the probability Carson's form of hero-ball is successful. Playing hero-ball is what destroyed Carson's 2020 season but also was the primary reason his 2017 season was so great. Playing his form of hero-ball when you have the skill-set to do it can also be a plus for the type of offense we run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, justice98 said: I sometimes worry that Turner isn't a commanding enough guy to get through to a strong personality guy like Wentz. I say that though having no idea what kinda guy Turner is, but being a young, fairly unaccomplished and indistiguished OC, I could see Wentz tuning him out if things don't go perfect. That actually might be a help in Carson's case. If I had to sum up the most common theme of his "issues" behind the scenes: it's about his strong will butting heads with the coordinator's strong will. On that front sounds a bit like Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers -- have heard they are the same way on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Honestly, while acknowledging we would be a much better team with Watson I don't want Watson. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srtman04 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Burgold said: Honestly, while acknowledging we would be a much better team with Watson I don't want Watson. I agree, someone else can have the overhead. He's the definition of high risk, high reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Watson goes to Philly and the “we should trade the next five drafts for the predatory perv” crowd all the sudden grows a conscience and a desire to learn more about what he did. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Hasn’t Waston reportedly said he wouldn’t go to Philly. I mean if the Texans took their 3 firsts plus their second rounder in the deal, the Texans would end up with 4 of the first 19 picks and something like 8 of the first 80...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: Hasn’t Waston reportedly said he wouldn’t go to Philly. I mean if the Texans took their 3 firsts plus their second rounder in the deal, the Texans would end up with 4 of the first 19 picks and something like 8 of the first 80...... 3 first rounders in a draft that's a month away is awfully enticing. And that's scary, bc I hope he goes anywhere but Philly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, KillBill26 said: 3 first rounders in a draft that's a month away is awfully enticing. And that's scary, bc I hope he goes anywhere but Philly. Yep because future first rounders from a team trading for Watson must be deemed to carry less value. But 3 first THIS draft all top 20....on ****.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Maybe I'll catch up with this series this weekend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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