AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) It’s going to be Daniels. Let’s hope he’s the real deal. We deserve some good fortune. I see a lot of “Maye might turn out to be Trubisky” comments. Trubisky as a sophomore wasn’t even the best QB on his team. He never played a good season in college. He couldn’t read defenses. To compare Maye to Trubisky is just as bad as comparing Jayden to Lamar. They are both lazy and inaccurate comparisons. Edited April 23 by AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) The more I digest everything possible today -- the more I think the McCarthy over Maye but not McCarthy over Daniels is exactly how it sounded from Keim and likely how it is. That is, the brides maid is likely to be McCarthy. but the bride seems to be Daniels. But as a i said with the past being prologue the draft gets super interesting typically Tuesday (tomorrow) so I might change my mind then depending on what's said. 😎 Edited April 23 by Skinsinparadise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, clskinsfan said: We dont have their medicals either. Which is another huge factor. Especially when you are talking about a 1st rounder and the money that comes with that. Good point. I know it's considered a nothing burger at this point, but if I were the Commanders before I drafted Jayden I would have the best specialists in the country examine that elbow just to be sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rungel Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 10 minutes ago, Conn said: Do you realize what a franchise stunting disaster this would be? lol it’s hard to believe someone would cheer for this, but these are the times that I’m reminded, there really are all sorts of people out there puttering around, just harmlessly thinking about stuff I think the Raiders are desperate for Daniels and he mentioned he would love to play for them and reunite with Antonio Pierce. I agree it would be a stunting the franchise, but if it’s huge haul and they can get JJ at 13 plus all the extra picks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, Rungel said: I think the Raiders are desperate for Daniels and he mentioned he would love to play for them and reunite with Antonio Pierce. I agree it would be a stunting the franchise, but if it’s huge haul and they can get JJ at 13 plus all the extra picks . McCarthy likely isn’t available at 13. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 57 minutes ago, KDawg said: It’s tricky. He’s a mid 20’s male athlete who has had top flight nutritionists available to him since at least 2018. Adding muscle mass is doable, and adding it gradually will help, but it’s tricky. Some guys put on weight and lose a lot of their quickness, even if the speed remains. Some do it so we’ll you barely notice. He certainly can add good weight to his frame. He has the room for it. But he has to be careful. The reason he’s so highly touted is his ability to make plays with his legs. His smart move is to slowly fade away from being a runner - stop me if you’ve heard that from someone before - and become a bit bigger and a pocket passer. That increases his longevity tenfold. But that transition should really be through his rookie contract. The discipline to do that is… not common. And he’s had the opportunity to do it while in college and hasn’t. I don’t know. I keep coming back to the “well, if he’s healthy you’re going to be so happy they picked him” and it’s reassuring as hell. Until the cynical side of my brain says, “ya, but what if he’s not?” 23 going on 24. It's sort of goes unnoticed about McCarthy which is from what i read he played sub 200 last year but put on 20 pounds before the combine and looked good, so in his case it was doable. I am not a big boned guy myself. Especially in college i put on weight and muscle without losing speed. Nothing crazy but I wasn't thin and narrow like Daniels in my 20s or now. Though Daniels shoulders looked broader at his proday. For myself i don't find broadening shoulders to be that hard. So it surprises me to see dudes with narrow frames in the draft process. I also found for myself it was easier to gain weight as i got older including in my 20s. in high school, i was narrow and thin like Daniels. Obviously everyone is different though. Edited April 23 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 52 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: You are the weight lifter here, any thoughts what you would do on that front? Clear and cream? Steroid shot in the ass? HGH? Pounding tomahawk steaks and 2 full chickens daily? All of the above? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 3 hours ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said: It’s like meeting an ex for coffee. Wait, what, you are not supposed to go beyond coffee? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dah-Dee Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 If it ends up Daniels, I'll try to take some comfort in his build being a little different from RG3, in that Griffin had a jacked upper body, with skinny little chicken legs. If Daniels' pro day showed us anything, it was that he has relatively strong legs, with a skinny upper body. That must make a difference, right? RIGHT??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 39 minutes ago, Hooper said: So would Jayden Daniels and so would Drake Maye. Everybody who has worked with both has said glowing things. Just because Daniels may not fit some people's image of what "the face of the franchise" should look or talk like doesn't mean he won't work his tail off. You’ve done this a couple times in recent days and it’s doing the board a disservice. That isn’t at all why the people who don’t want Daniels don’t want him. I know all about the coded language and dogwhistles you’re talking about when fans talk about QB’s and literally none of that has appeared here this offseason. You’re taking a purely football thing and making it gross and it’s beneath you. 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Clear and cream? Steroid shot in the ass? HGH? Pounding tomahawk steaks and 2 full chickens daily? All of the above? In High School I could eat anything and everything and not gain weight. Now if I have a piece of cake after dinner my gut gets bigger amost instantly. Tough for me to relate anymore to these dudes who struggle to gain weight albiet that was once me. 😎 6 minutes ago, Dah-Dee said: If it ends up Daniels, I'll try to take some comfort in his build being a little different from RG3, in that Griffin had a jacked upper body, with skinny little chicken legs. If Daniels' pro day showed us anything, it was that he has relatively strong legs, with a skinny upper body. That must make a difference, right? RIGHT??? My main comfort is seeing McCarthy successfully do it. i sort of did it myself. I didn't turn into the Incredible Hulk but in my 20s i moved from a thin-narrow frame to a normal frame. Also its clearly on Daniels' plate no pun intended watching his interviews. He even said teams go to queston is about his weight. And this team has loaded up this off season on health science-nutrition types. Daniels refers to a plan with a nutrionist to get it done and I like that he said he was told and plans to do it gradually. At a minimum he's going to try to do it. Will see if he pulls it off. Edited April 23 by Skinsinparadise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 3 minutes ago, Dah-Dee said: If it ends up Daniels, I'll try to take some comfort in his build being a little different from RG3, in that Griffin had a jacked upper body, with skinny little chicken legs. If Daniels' pro day showed us anything, it was that he has relatively strong legs, with a skinny upper body. That must make a difference, right? RIGHT??? He must have strong bones because that is the only way can survive or has been it seems like. Adding some more muscle and fat will help and probably can do that before the season starts - hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 12 minutes ago, Rungel said: I think the Raiders are desperate for Daniels and he mentioned he would love to play for them and reunite with Antonio Pierce. I agree it would be a stunting the franchise, but if it’s huge haul and they can get JJ at 13 plus all the extra picks . The Raiders can be desperate for whatever they want, they can’t afford to trade into the top-3 and won’t be able to. A real “how’s it feel to want” situation if I’ve ever seen it. They don’t have the ammo and nobody in the top-3 who needs a franchise QB (everyone) will trade down that far. And McCarthy isn’t falling that far, seemingly. Trading down to the Raiders pick puts you completely out of range for QB, and the cost to trade back up for a guy who is less good than the prospect you already gave away at #2 will ruin the entire point of the exercise. It’s just not happening, it would be ruinous for this franchise (same probably goes for the Pats). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, clskinsfan said: Pioli worked with Quinn in Atlanta. Interesting info here. He also worked with Adam Peters in New England for I think 5 years. Was waiting for him to mention something about Peters QB scouting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac8887 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 29 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Don't love his ceiling but like his floor. I don't think he will be the pick but won't hate it. I really don’t see anything that would limit his ceiling. He got plenty of arm strength and athleticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh32 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 If it does end up being JD i will support him ,But man do i worry about him running so much and not protecting himself. Maye is still my first choice though and think with good coaching he has the best upside out of all the QB's 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 12 hours ago, Warhead36 said: That's how I feel too. But obviously you and I and the rest of Maye Nation appear to be missing something. If Maye is really 3rd and they have concerns about Daniels’ character; seems like JJ is our guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 14 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: In High School I could eat anything and everything and not gain weight. Now if I have a piece of cake after dinner my gut gets bigger amost instantly. Tough for me to relate anymore to these dudes who struggle to gain weight albiet that was once me. 😎 I forgot one: after college I drank 6-7 20oz beers and ate potato skins at a bar 6 nights a week and gained 40lbs. Ive honestly never had problems gaining weight. Though, if I eat right and exercise, I’ve never had problems losing weight either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 I have to say that I feel incredibly deflated that we are going to pick Daniels. I just can't shake the feeling that he's going to be a complete disappointment. While I don't feel like Maye is a slam dunk, I just feel he has the tools and physical build to be a more likely elite QB. Surprised if Daniels makes it 5 years in the league without a career ending injury. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh32 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 It all depends if Washington wants to spend the time fixing Mayes mechanics..If not then draft JD.,But with his style of QB play i don't think JD will not last more than 6-7 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, clskinsfan said: Or he has been fed info and is helping the team by claiming him the best in the draft. Regardless. I think the decision has been made at this point. Just too many people saying the same thing to ignore it anymore. I am fine with it being Daniels. Watching him run is going to be awesome. I think it's going to be just as anxiety inducing. Because every time he gets hit hard we're all going to be holding our breath and waiting to see if he gets up or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Daniels is the win now pick. Many like to win NOW. Interesting how Maye was consensus #2 now its much more a coin flip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rungel Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 14 minutes ago, Conn said: The Raiders can be desperate for whatever they want, they can’t afford to trade into the top-3 and won’t be able to. A real “how’s it feel to want” situation if I’ve ever seen it. They don’t have the ammo and nobody in the top-3 who needs a franchise QB (everyone) will trade down that far. And McCarthy isn’t falling that far, seemingly. Trading down to the Raiders pick puts you completely out of range for QB, and the cost to trade back up for a guy who is less good than the prospect you already gave away at #2 will ruin the entire point of the exercise. It’s just not happening, it would be ruinous for this franchise (same probably goes for the Pats). If the Raiders offer a package similar to what we did for RG3 , it would have to be considered and not that far fetched for them. A 1st ,2nd and 3rd this year and first rd picks in 2025 , 2026 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Joel klatt, who's been unapologetically in camp maye released his last mock draft and has us taking daniels. I know the smoke may not be coming from the chimney in the Vatican but there sure is a lot of smoke coming from everywhere else. Certainly starting to feel like we can order our daniels jerseys now. Gonna be a hell of a ride the next couple years no matter what happens and I'm looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 7 minutes ago, bh32 said: It all depends if Washington wants to spend the time fixing Mayes mechanics..If not then draft JD.,But with his style of QB play i don't think JD will not last more than 6-7 years I say closer to 2 to 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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