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I don't get why the cops didn't have their weapons drawn once the crowd started attacking them, especially with makeshift weapons. Cop would have been completely justified in shooting the guy.

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7 minutes ago, mistertim said:

I don't get why the cops didn't have their weapons drawn once the crowd started attacking them, especially with makeshift weapons. Cop would have been completely justified in shooting the guy.

 

I do think it shows excellent discipline.  At least, that's what I'm assuming.  I don't think I could have done it.  

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5 minutes ago, Larry said:

 

I do think it shows excellent discipline.  At least, that's what I'm assuming.  I don't think I could have done it.  

 

Yeah, fair point. Realistically it probably would have only served to escalate ever further. Cop shoots MAGA (even if it was in self defense), MAGA rioters go even crazier and start targeting police to intentionally try and kill them. Probably best in the long run that it didn't go down that way.

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Just now, mistertim said:

 

Yeah, fair point. Realistically it probably would have only served to escalate ever further. Cop shoots MAGA (even if it was in self defense), MAGA rioters go even crazier and start targeting police to intentionally try and kill them. Probably best in the long run that it didn't go down that way.

 

Oh, we've seen reports claiming that some of the organized rioters had weapons cached nearby, waiting to escalate.  

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Congressman Reveals True Terror Of Republicans Now Downplaying Capitol Riot

 

Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) has called out Republicans who are now downplaying the riot at the U.S. Capitol earlier this year, recalling the fear his GOP colleagues felt as a mob of Donald Trump’s supporters stormed the building.

 

“It’s true some GOP members of Congress who are treating Capitol Police like **** were the most scared on the floor,” Gallego tweeted Thursday, appearing to reference the 21 House Republicans who this week voted against honoring police who responded to the violence with a Congressional Gold Medal.

 

 

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Congressman Reveals True Terror Of Republicans Now Downplaying Capitol Riot

 

Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) has called out Republicans who are now downplaying the riot at the U.S. Capitol earlier this year, recalling the fear his GOP colleagues felt as a mob of Donald Trump’s supporters stormed the building.

 

“It’s true some GOP members of Congress who are treating Capitol Police like **** were the most scared on the floor,” Gallego tweeted Thursday, appearing to reference the 21 House Republicans who this week voted against honoring police who responded to the violence with a Congressional Gold Medal.

 

 

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Please show us the video footage?!?!

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The Guy Who Sat Behind Pelosi's Desk In The Capitol Riot Can't Travel To A Car Show, A Judge Ruled

 

An Arkansas man photographed sitting behind a desk in the office of Speaker Nancy Pelosi after he and other Trump supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 will not be permitted to travel to an upcoming car show, a federal judge ruled Friday.

 

Richard Barnett, one of the most high profile Capitol insurrectionists thanks to the viral photos of him behind the desk, is currently under home confinement after being released from pre-trial detention in April.

 

He is facing one felony count of bringing a dangerous weapon into the Capitol — a stun device shaped like a walking stick — as well as two misdemeanor counts for violent entry and disorderly conduct and theft of government property (an envelope he said he'd taken from the office).

 

In a court filing on Monday, his attorney had asked that his conditions be relaxed so he may travel more than 50 miles from his home. They said he had lost his job as a window salesman during his months in jail and now needed to travel in order to make money buying and selling classic cars.

 

"While this [50-mile confinement] is practical from someone who lives in an urban or suburban area," his defense attorney wrote, "it is not practical for Mr. Barnett because he lives in rural Arkansas and work frequently requires him to travel more than 50 miles from his home to buy inventory that he must inspect, appraise, negotiate, and purchase in person."

 

Barnett also asked for permission to travel more than 200 miles from his home on Friday night to a classic car swap meet, stay the night, then return home on Saturday.

 

But federal prosecutors had opposed the motion, writing there was no evidence Barnett needed to travel and lived near major population centers in Arkansas.

 

They also argued that he still posed a danger to the community because, in part, "he will use weapons, intimidation, or physical presence to halt legitimate government functions as a soldier in the ‘war’ he believes is currently underway in the United States."

 

In a brief ruling on Friday, Judge Christopher R. Cooper for the US District Court for the District of Columbia denied Barnett's request, saying he was "not persuaded that the Defendant cannot pursue gainful employment within a 50-mile radius of his home as permitted by the current conditions."

 

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Say, here's an idea.
Put him in a 12'x12' confinement area for about 20 years. Give him a nice orange jumpsuit and a job picking cabbages or stamping license plates

 

Do we even HAVE a justice system>? what the hell is this?
Can I go to a CAR SHOW? LOCK HIM UP. He is a VIOLENT TRAITOR.

 

~Bang

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Crist calls for bipartisan state commission to investigate Florida links to Capitol siege

 

With Florida tied for the most arrests stemming from the siege on the U.S. Capitol, U.S. Rep. Charlie Crist joined with Hillsborough County's top prosecutor Friday in calling for a bipartisan commission to investigate the state's links to the Jan. 6 event.

 

Crist, a St. Petersburg Democrat and candidate for governor, was responding to reporting from Gannett's Florida newspapers and USA Today that found Florida tied with Texas for the most arrests stemming from Jan. 6, with 47 each.

 

"That is stunning," Crist said Friday of Florida's arrest total. "And for our public safety we need to understand why."

 

The report also found that Florida has the most members of two far right extremist groups - the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers - arrested of any state, and that nine of the Floridians facing charges stemming from Jan. 6 are accused of assaulting law enforcement officers.

 

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GOP increasingly balks at calling Jan. 6 an insurrection

 

A growing number of Republican lawmakers are refusing to say that the Jan. 6 insurrection was actually an insurrection.

 

Nearly two dozen GOP House members voted against legislation this week that would award Congressional Gold Medals to police officers who defended the Capitol that day, in part because it describes the mob of then-President Trump’s supporters who were trying to stop Congress from ratifying the 2020 election results as “insurrectionists.”

 

“They were protesting. And I don’t approve of the way they protested, but it wasn’t an insurrection,” said Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.).

 

“My goodness. Can you imagine what a real insurrection would look like?” he asked.

 

The lack of consensus among members of Congress about how to describe the Jan. 6 attack underscores how difficult it is for lawmakers to take actions such as establishing a bipartisan commission to investigate the day’s events, as well as the pervasiveness of GOP attempts to whitewash the severity of the violent attack on the Capitol.

 

Multiple news organizations, including The Hill, began referring to the events of Jan. 6 as an insurrection, broadly defined as an act of revolt against an established government, while they were still unfolding. 

 

Following a "Stop the Steal" rally in Washington headlined by Trump and scheduled to coincide with Congress's certification of November's Electoral College results, hundreds of supporters of the former president stormed the Capitol to prevent the formal count and transfer of power. Seven people died in connection with the ensuing violence, including two suicides in the following days, and more than 520 have since been charged with offenses ranging from assault to unlawful entry — though none have been charged with sedition thus far.

 

The article of impeachment against Trump that the House passed after the riot, which fell short of conviction in the Senate, specifically referred to his actions as “incitement of insurrection” and “willfully inciting violence against the government of the United States.”

 

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57 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

Fox News/MAGA Twitter going all in on this “FBI plotted Jan 6” deal is a pretty firm indicator that the FBI has acquired some pretty damning info on members of the GQP.

Maybe they will use it to clean out some of the ****s.

 

 

Nah, who am I kidding?
Nothing is going to happen to stop any of them. 

 

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A rather long thread, but if you have a lot of free time or are obsessed with finding out a bunch of stuff leading up to the attempted insurrection, it's well worth the read (I fell into the first category lol):

 

 

 

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On 4/10/2021 at 6:53 PM, China said:

Proud Boys and other far-right groups raise millions via Christian funding site

 

A data breach from Christian crowdfunding site GiveSendGo has revealed that millions of dollars have been raised on the site for far-right causes and groups, many of whom are banned from raising funds on other platforms.


It also identifies previously anonymous high-dollar donors to far-right actors, some of whom enjoy positions of wealth, power or public responsibility.

 

Some of the biggest beneficiaries have been members of groups such as the Proud Boys, designated as a terrorist group in Canada, many of whose fundraising efforts were directly related to the 6 January attack on the United States Capitol.

 

The breach, shared with journalists by transparency group Distributed Denial of Secrets, shows the site was used for a wide range of legitimate charitable purposes, such as crowdfunding medical bills, aid projects and religious missions.

 

But the site’s permissive stance towards far-right actors meant groups who had been banned from other fundraising platforms and payment processors following episodes of hate speech and violence have also used the platform.

 

Across at least 11 crowdfunding campaigns associated with the Proud Boys, members of the group, including some now facing conspiracy charges related to the Capitol attack, raised over $375,000. Some of these fundraisers netted large amounts of money in a short period.

 

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Proud Boys leader says the far-right group is 'hemorrhaging money'

 

The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are both struggling to bring in money and hold onto members, as the far-right organizations deal with the repercussions of being connected to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

 

The Oath Keepers launched in 2009 and the Proud Boys in 2016. The Wall Street Journal interviewed current and former leaders and members of both groups, and they described how the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers first started having financial issues after the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. PayPal booted the Oath Keepers, founder Stewart Rhodes said, even though his group wasn't there, and he had to ask members to send their dues by mail. Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio said PayPal, Stripe, and other credit card processors — including several used by porn sites and gun makers — also banned him.

 

More than three dozen members and associates of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys have been arrested in connection with the Jan. 6 Capitol attack, and prosecutors are taking a close look at any financial backing by the groups, as well as the roles played by Rhodes and Tarrio; the men did not enter the Capitol building during the riot.

 

Tarrio told the Journal the e-commerce site he runs to support himself and other Proud Boys has been hurt by the fact that they can't process credit card payments. "We've been bleeding money since January," he said, "like hemorrhaging money." Barely making enough to cover rent, Tarrio said he set up a secretive e-commerce site to sell merchandise with liberal slogans like "Black Lives Matter" and "Impeach 45," but wouldn't give out its name.

 

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Tarrio told the Journal the e-commerce site he runs to support himself and other Proud Boys has been hurt by the fact that they can't process credit card payments. "We've been bleeding money since January," he said, "like hemorrhaging money." Barely making enough to cover rent, Tarrio said he set up a secretive e-commerce site to sell merchandise with liberal slogans like "Black Lives Matter" and "Impeach 45," but wouldn't give out its name.

 

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Won't even stand up for his own ****ed-up beliefs.  What a ****-stain.

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@Califan007

This times 50... each state has connections like this.  I know it in Southern California.  David Barton, David Lane, Kirk Cameron, Charlie Kirk, Rob McCoy... there's a strong group of Christian Nationalists all over local churches.  I can't even tell who funds them.

 

On the one hand, having faith is not a bad thing and being involved in politics isn't either.  But the "deification" of Trump makes me puke.  I don't want to feel unwelcome at church because I don't support a Christian Theocracy, yet the belief that Christians must support GOP to defeat Roe has been going on for decades.  

 

How would I feel if the LGBT community, or feminist movement went after the church the way they are politically treated?  

 

All the craziness was Pre COVID... and even Pre Trump. 

 

All these people have some type of "liberal fear".  

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1 hour ago, Fergasun said:

How would I feel if the LGBT community, or feminist movement went after the church the way they are politically treated?  


Well, according to The Right, they already are. 
 

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Indiana woman to cite 'Schindler's List' in Capitol riot guilty plea

 

An Indiana woman said she learned watching “Schindler’s List” about her guilt in the Jan 6. riot at the Capitol, USA Today reported on Tuesday.

 

In a letter to the judge presiding over her case, Anna-Morgan Lloyd apologized for her involvement in the riot, adding that she felt “ashamed” of how the pro-Trump march turned violent. 

 

Lloyd summarized quotes from films “Schindler’s List” and “Just Mercy” in her letter to the judge. She said her attorney had recommend that she watch both films and learn “what life is like for others in our country,” according to USA Today. 

 

“I’ve learned that even though we live in a wonderful country, things still need to improve,” Morgan-Lloyd wrote in her letter. “People of all colors should feel as safe as I do to walk down the street.” 

 

Morgan-Lloyd entered the Capitol on Jan. 6 with a friend during the riot, and took pictures, sharing posts to Facebook that referred to the event as the “most exciting day” of their lives, according to court documents.  

 

The U.S. attorney agreed to the plea deal saying that Lloyd did commit a serious violation by entering the building but didn’t “engage in any physical violence or destroyed property,” USA Today noted. 

 

Lloyd will face three years probation, $500 in restitution, and community service in her plea deal. She did not take part in violence or the destruction of public priority and had no previous criminal history, according to a U.S. attorney presiding over her case, reported USA Today.

 

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10 hours ago, China said:

 

This is a pretty big development.  I know people wanted death penalties handed out on Jan 7, but these things take painfully long. 
 

As for the Indiana woman, I can see no jail time, but I wonder if internet surveillance is part of her probation…should be.  Also, all who don’t get jail time should have to walk around with a scarlet “I”.

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