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56 minutes ago, Dan T. said:

Here's Rep. Clay Higgins [Numb Nuts, La.] questioning FBI Director Chris Wray about ghost buses filled with "FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters."

 

 

 

 

What a maroon...if you have a problem with ghost busses you dont call the FBI.

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Republican goes on wild rant to push FBI Jan. 6 "ghost buses" conspiracy theory at hearing

 

Rep. Clay Higgins, R-La., during a Homeland Security Committee hearing on Wednesday accused the FBI of secret involvement in the January 6 attack. Higgins during the hearing with FBI Director Christopher Wray cited their exchange from a previous hearing. "I asked you, ‘Did you have confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters positioned inside the Capitol on January 6, prior to the doors being open?’ You responded. I quote again, ‘I have to be very careful of what I say,’" Higgins recalled, arguing that "we can't get a straight answer" despite a "tremendous amount of evidence." Higgins pressed Wray again on whether the FBI had "confidential human sources at the Stop the Steal rally on January 6th here in D.C."

 

“Congressman, as we’ve discussed before, I’m not going to get into where we have or have not used confidential human sources,” Wray replied. Wray began to add to his response before Higgins cut him off repeatedly, saying it was time to "move on." Wray insisted on being allowed to answer the question but Higgins launched into a quote from an "FBI informant" who allegedly claimed he was instructed to storm the Capitol with the Proud Boys. “Can you confirm that the FBI had that sort of engagement with your own agents embedded into the crowd on January 6th?” Higgins asked. “If you are asking whether the violence at the Capitol on January 6th was part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources and or agents, the answer is emphatically not,” Wray said. Higgins then went on to ask about “ghost buses” filled with alleged informants. “Well, it’s pretty common in law enforcement, it is a vehicle that’s used for secret purposes,” he said. “It’s painted over. There’s two buses in the middle here. There were the first to arrive at Union Station on January 6th, zero-five-hundred. I have all this evidence, I’m showing you the tip of this iceberg.” Eventually, Higgins was told he’d reached his allotted time. “I note that all the members across the aisle have been granted time, and I object to my question being closed,” the Republican concluded. “This is a very significant hearing, Mr. Chairman. And these busses are nefarious in nature and were filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters deployed onto our Capitol on January 6th and your day is coming Mr. Wray!”

 

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What an unstable, delusional conspiracy theory believing congressman may look like.

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37 minutes ago, China said:

What an unstable, delusional conspiracy theory believing congressman may look like.

 

I remember the 90's.  Scientists and engineers were buzzing about the internet and the ability to spread information far and wide.  Oh sure, it would largely be used for commercial efforts, gaming, porn and cats...but the negatives were easily offset by the insane increase in ability to spread information to a public hungry for knowledge.

 

As time went on, it slowly dawned on us that mis-information could spread just as easily...and the public is far more hungry for sensational conspiracies than actual facts and understanding.  We still have no answer.

 

Really...the irony of the story is that its yet another example of perfectly good science and engineering going tits up because we forgot a minus sign.

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On 11/15/2023 at 7:33 PM, Jabbyrwock said:

 

I remember the 90's.  Scientists and engineers were buzzing about the internet and the ability to spread information far and wide.  Oh sure, it would largely be used for commercial efforts, gaming, porn and cats...but the negatives were easily offset by the insane increase in ability to spread information to a public hungry for knowledge.

 

As time went on, it slowly dawned on us that mis-information could spread just as easily...and the public is far more hungry for sensational conspiracies than actual facts and understanding.  We still have no answer.

 

Really...the irony of the story is that its yet another example of perfectly good science and engineering going tits up because we forgot a minus sign.

 

Here's the thing, the negative effects are immediate and obvious, of course there was a surge of cats and porn and cat porn and the rest. The positives are far more subtle, take far longer to manifest themselves, like the buildup of tectonic forces they go largely unnoticed, only specialists with the best equipment can detect them and even they cannot tell you when or where they might erupt. Historically societal forces are very similar and take a generation to be seen. Right now a lot of what is happening is a direct consequence of kids watching planes crash into the towers and the resulting angst in our society. I know that seems like forever ago, but these things work on those kind of timelines. So no one can honestly tell you what we will be doing in the '40s, but it will be massively influenced by children watching Trump and his attending dumbasses running amok.

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4 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:

Blurring faces to help Trump supporters


 

“Blurring faces to help Trump supporters”

 

Which is bizarre, because they would also be blurring the faces of Antifa members masquerading as Trump supporters who MAGA could identify…not to mention almost all MAGA members were (and still are) proud to have been there, and posted video and selfies of themselves there. And how is the video supposed to exonerate them in the court of public opinion if they can’t be identified? 

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Some significant part of white Christians were always going to lash out as part of moving away from being a white Christian male dominated country. 
 

Misinformation on the internet, electing a conman as a leader - one way or another there was always going to be some sort of lashing out. 
 

it’s a good thing. It’s part of the progress. You may wish to live when we were further along but we don’t get such choices. 

10 minutes ago, Bang said:

Who the **** are they kidding.
It'll take five years just to watch it all, much less edit it.

They only have to edit a couple things

 

then give it a few days for someone to “find” them and make a public scene of it 

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Capitol Riot Defenders Trolled With Video of 'Peaceful' 9/11 Hijackers

 

The recent release of security footage from the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot and the arguments surrounding it has prompted some online to make the comparison to security footage of the September 11, 2001, plane hijackers, in an effort to dispel claims that the rioters were "peaceful."

 

In the wake of the release of the footage, numerous conservative voices have highlighted small segments of it to claim that the rioters were, in fact, peaceful protestors entering the Capitol grounds, or were, at worst, egged on by Capitol security forces.

 

These claims were met by several other voices online, highlighting old security footage of some of the men who hijacked a plane on September 11 walking through an airport before the attack and looking generally unassuming, making the argument that brief instances of docile behavior do not dispel the greater context of a violent incident like the Capitol riot.

 

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'I’m not some lunatic frothing at the mouth': J6 rioter scrambles before heading to jail

 

After being found guilty on 11 counts related to the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol that briefly delayed the certification of President Joe Biden's victory in 2020, 44-year-old Brian Mock allowed the The New York Times' Eli Saslow to sit in as he tried to justify his actions to his son.

 

Mock is currently awaiting sentencing in January and, as the Times is reporting, has been making efforts every few weeks to work out his differences with his 21-year-old son A.J. by detailing what he experienced at the U.S. Capitol that led to his arrest and trial.

 

As Saslow wrote, "A.J. had been making the trip between his father’s house in rural Wisconsin and his own apartment in downtown Minneapolis every few weeks, and the 40-mile drive felt like a journey between worlds," adding, "They’d spent almost three years relitigating the events of Jan. 6, 2021, trying to make sense of what that day meant for their relationship, for the country and for the future of American democracy. Now another divisive presidential election involving Donald Trump was less than a year away, and they were still staring at the same screen and interpreting different realities, each of them coming away with more questions than answers."

 

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On 11/19/2023 at 11:40 PM, China said:

'I’m not some lunatic frothing at the mouth': J6 rioter scrambles before heading to jail

 

After being found guilty on 11 counts related to the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol that briefly delayed the certification of President Joe Biden's victory in 2020, 44-year-old Brian Mock allowed the The New York Times' Eli Saslow to sit in as he tried to justify his actions to his son.

 

Mock is currently awaiting sentencing in January and, as the Times is reporting, has been making efforts every few weeks to work out his differences with his 21-year-old son A.J. by detailing what he experienced at the U.S. Capitol that led to his arrest and trial.

 

As Saslow wrote, "A.J. had been making the trip between his father’s house in rural Wisconsin and his own apartment in downtown Minneapolis every few weeks, and the 40-mile drive felt like a journey between worlds," adding, "They’d spent almost three years relitigating the events of Jan. 6, 2021, trying to make sense of what that day meant for their relationship, for the country and for the future of American democracy. Now another divisive presidential election involving Donald Trump was less than a year away, and they were still staring at the same screen and interpreting different realities, each of them coming away with more questions than answers."

 

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I feel bad for the son. he knew immediately on J6 that is was bad. Had more sense than his father who is still in the "It was just 5 min of a bad situation". Dad still doesn't get it. Now because he physically attacked a cop, he'll be one of those guys with a decade + sentence. Congrats, Mr. Mock. 

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I feel bad for the son. he knew immediately on J6 that is was bad. Had more sense than his father who is still in the "It was just 5 min of a bad situation". Dad still doesn't get it. Now because he physically attacked a cop, he'll be one of those guys with a decade + sentence. Congrats, Mr. Mock. 

 

And lose his voting rights. Yay!

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Capitol rioter who berated a judge and insulted a prosecutor is sentenced to 3 months in jail

 

A New York massage therapist who joined the mob of Trump supporters attacking the U.S. Capitol was sentenced on Tuesday to three months in jail, capping a case in which he skipped court hearings, profanely insulted a prosecutor and berated the judge who punished him.

 

Frank Rocco Giustino pleaded guilty in February to a misdemeanor charge related to the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol. But he was arrested last month after failing to appear in court for an earlier sentencing hearing.

 

U.S. District Judge James Boasberg told Giustino that he seemed to have no remorse for his conduct on Jan. 6 or any respect for the court’s authority.

 

“Your behavior from the moment of the (guilty) plea until sentencing has been about the worst of any January 6th defendant I’ve had,” the judge said.

 

The judge sentenced Giustino to 90 days of imprisonment with credit for the roughly 30 days that he has remained in custody while awaiting sentencing.

 

Prosecutors recommended a sentence of four months of incarceration. They initially asked for a 21-day sentence, but they sought a longer term of imprisonment after Giustino disrupted a June 23 court hearing with defiant outbursts.

 

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So despite misbehaving and insulting the judge, the judge still sentenced him to less the the prosecutors recommended?  WTF?  I guess there are no consequences for his actions in court.

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