Dont Taze Me Bro Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: If most people think like you do (and apparently a lot of people do) what happens when the hospitals and morgues are over run by the people who didn’t get vaccinated? People die for easily treatable conditions. Is this what we are not worrying about? Someone chooses not to get vaccinated, overfills the hospital, and then when someone who is vaccinated needs emergency treatments it is unavailable because the hospitals are over ran. And that is just the medical aspect of “not worrying about it”. There are economic and security issues aswell. I was shocked the first go around with how fragile our society really is.... I think you are over estimating societies resilience.... I stayed home for 15 months, me and my daughter (wife had to go into the office, but was vaccinated and wearing masks and taking every precaution of not getting it). I went out maybe 6 times (outside of going outside and taking a short walk in my neighborhood, nobody around) and two times were to get my vaccine (wore my mask), the other times I stayed in my car and did not come in direct contact with anyone. We had groceries delivered or did pick up (after about a year of deliveries), we didn't get any carry out from any restaurants for one year, then only did ones that offered curbside pick-up. We did do drive-thru breakfast at chick-fil-a once a week and it was my wife going out as she was vaccinated and wore her mask, was cautious. The reason we basically stayed in for over a year was us doing our part and supporting all the CDC guidance, etc. We cared about not spreading it asymptomatically and not knowing if us going out might infect other people and worse, kill them. All while these mother****ers downplayed everything and refused to mask up or get vaccinated. I see your point, however, at this point, I'm not worrying about unmasked, unvaccinated adults and what happens any longer. More than enough time has gone by for them to get on board and right the ship and they still refuse to. Like I said, I'm extremely pissed about it all right now and may change my mind later on. Being perfectly honest, we are already planning on having to just get take-out (masking up too) in the future because it's inevitable that **** is going to hit the fan due to the stupidity and ignorance of those that refuse to get vaccinated. I really wish there was some way that it was mandatory for every American to get vaccinated. Right now, we aren't in a hot zone just yet, so I'm not wearing a mask right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said: I really wish there was some way that it was mandatory for every American to get vaccinated You had me up until here. I’m at the point that I don’t want it mandatory. I want it to wreak havoc on all the idiots (and hopefully spare others as much as possible). This world really needs some Darwin-in-action. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 9 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said: It is a choice. A choice to be an asshole. Yeah anti vaccine people have been getting the kid gloves. Their "personal choice" is to be a selfish cowardly fool. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: You had me up until here. I’m at the point that I don’t want it mandatory. I want it to wreak havoc on all the idiots (and hopefully spare others as much as possible). This world really needs some Darwin-in-action. If you really think the unmitigated spread of corona virus will kill only the unvaccinated I think you are being very myopic. Edited July 28, 2021 by CousinsCowgirl84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: If you really think the unmitigated spread of corona virus will kill only the unvaccinated I think you are being very myopic. Notice I said “as much as possible”. Can’t make an omelette without breaking some eggs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDibbs31 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: If you really think the unmitigated spread of corona virus will kill only the unvaccinated I think you are being very myopic. "According to the CDC, as of July 19, a grand total of 4,072 vaccinated Americans had been hospitalized with symptomatic breakthrough infections, out of more than 161 million who have been fully vaccinated. That is a breakthrough hospitalization rate of less than 0.003 percent. Better still, of those hospitalized, only 849 have died of covid-19. That means the death rate from those breakthrough infections is 0.0005 percent. To put that in perspective, your chance of dying from a lightning strike is .0007 percent, and your chance of dying from a seasonal flu is 0.1 percent. If you’re vaccinated, you have a much greater chance of dying from a hornet, wasp or bee string, a dog attack, a car crash, drowning, sunstroke, or choking on food than you do of dying from covid-19." Obviously, it won’t only kill the unvaccinated. However, if you are vaccinated, under 65, and have no comorbidity, your chance of dying from Covid-19 is statistically zero. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/27/vaccinated-americans-are-more-likely-die-lightning-strike-than-covid-dont-bring-back-restrictions/?fbclid=IwAR0TcsmJUaq2YDlASoJq-ZlFfgiZDxLx86J7JwzM0nipjn5pu4I0TidS5eU 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Anyone else need to Google comorbidity? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbyrwock Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, clietas said: Anyone else need to Google comorbidity? I'm pretty sure it means "ex-wife" 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BigDibbs31 said: "According to the CDC, as of July 19, a grand total of 4,072 vaccinated Americans had been hospitalized with symptomatic breakthrough infections, out of more than 161 million who have been fully vaccinated. That is a breakthrough hospitalization rate of less than 0.003 percent. Better still, of those hospitalized, only 849 have died of covid-19. That means the death rate from those breakthrough infections is 0.0005 percent. To put that in perspective, your chance of dying from a lightning strike is .0007 percent, and your chance of dying from a seasonal flu is 0.1 percent. If you’re vaccinated, you have a much greater chance of dying from a hornet, wasp or bee string, a dog attack, a car crash, drowning, sunstroke, or choking on food than you do of dying from covid-19." Obviously, it won’t only kill the unvaccinated. However, if you are vaccinated, under 65, and have no comorbidity, your chance of dying from Covid-19 is statistically zero. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/27/vaccinated-americans-are-more-likely-die-lightning-strike-than-covid-dont-bring-back-restrictions/?fbclid=IwAR0TcsmJUaq2YDlASoJq-ZlFfgiZDxLx86J7JwzM0nipjn5pu4I0TidS5eU I’m not talking about dying from corona virus despite being vaccinated. I’m talking about the possibility of dying from something else because the hospitals are over stressed and the heath care system collapsing under the weight of the unvaccinated horde. Edited July 28, 2021 by CousinsCowgirl84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: I’m not talking about dying from corona virus despite being vaccinated. I’m talking about the possibility of dying from something else because the hospitals are over stressed and the heath care system collapsing under the weight of the unvaccinated hoard. Horde. Sorry…pet peeve. Edited July 28, 2021 by TryTheBeal! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: Horde. Sorry…pet peeve. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 So this Nationals stuff is pretty trippy. 12 guys tested positive. From reporting, it sounds like only two of the 12 were unvaccinated. They were tested because Trae came up positive and others had to get tested. I do wonder how many people are catching this thing undetected. And, if so, how likely are they to spread it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, TryTheBeal! said: Horde. Sorry…pet peeve. Whored. Sorry...thinking about an ex-gf. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigDibbs31 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Ball Security said: So this Nationals stuff is pretty trippy. 12 guys tested positive. From reporting, it sounds like only two of the 12 were unvaccinated. They were tested because Trae came up positive and others had to get tested. I do wonder how many people are catching this thing undetected. And, if so, how likely are they to spread it. Who cares if you are vaccinated? If you arent, then that is your own problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, BigDibbs31 said: Who cares if you are vaccinated? If you arent, then that is your own problem. I have kids under 12 who I don’t want to give it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86 Snyder Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, BigDibbs31 said: Who cares if you are vaccinated? If you arent, then that is your own problem. Anyone who understands how viruses work, that's who. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDibbs31 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I have kids under 12 who I don’t want to give it to. There are almost zero deaths of kids under 12 from COVID 1 minute ago, 86 Snyder said: Anyone who understands how viruses work, that's who. All the scientific numbers say different 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86 Snyder Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, BigDibbs31 said: There are almost zero deaths of kids under 12 from COVID All the scientific numbers say different Sigh. Now. It lives, it mutates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, BigDibbs31 said: There are almost zero deaths of kids under 12 from COVID All the scientific numbers say different Cool. What are the long term effects? Do you have children? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, 86 Snyder said: Sigh. Now. It lives, it mutates. Isn't it amazing how it seems the "do your research" crowd just repeats easily disprovable nonsense? Do they actually know what "research" means? That's rhetorical, of course. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, BigDibbs31 said: All the scientific numbers say different Post the scientific numbers related to the delta variant for us uneducated pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Isn't it amazing how it seems the "do your research" crowd just repeats easily disprovable nonsense? Do they actually know what "research" means? It means asking google to find you something on the internet that agrees with what you want to believe. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, PokerPacker said: It means asking google to find you something on the internet that agrees with what you want to believe. That might be giving too much credit. For a lot of them it's just repeating what someone on Facebook has told them without even bothering to see if there is a source for it, much less a verified source. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbyrwock Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, Llevron said: Post the scientific numbers related to the delta variant for us uneducated pls Wait a sec...science has its own numbers now!?! Did we get the good ones, like pi, e and sqrt(2) or did we just draft the integers? I mean...if they went integer in the second round that would be okay, but it had better have been odd...we already have a countable infinity of evens. I guess as long as math numbers ended up all imaginary I'll be fine with whatever we got. Except sqrt(3)...it can **** off. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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