How to fix the Democratic Party

[PeterMP]

1 hour ago, tomwvr said:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216/

 

Did you read the link I included before?

 

Of the people that have studied the issue, Borjas is one of the few has studied the issue and found a decline in wages.

 

(And he doesn't really even find that illegal immigrants reduce waging.  He finds that there is a change who earns money but there isn't a real decrease in wages at the population level.)

 

This seems like searching for a source that supports your preconceived notions.  (And ignoring what I already posted and wrote).

 

And that only covers immigration.  What happened to minimum wage?)

Edited February 15, 2022 by PeterMP

[NoCalMike]

Marianne Williamson was on Maher's show Friday and while she does have some weird quirks (the cyrstals....ah the crystals) she does come off as a big time consumer advocate, almost Nader-like in her ability to break down and explain the problems with the current economic system.  Her counter-part on the panel was a slick as hell libertarian trying to dress up his policies as something different, but Williamson snuffed him out big time.  He tried to do the routine where he attacks a symptom of the overall problem correctly, and even gets Williamson to agree, bit he tries to smoothly slip in the bait & switch by doing the "well we should remove all morality from the markets period" and that is the moment Williamson knew he was just the next in line to push for unregulated markets, which she correctly pointed was a major part of the reason we are in the current situation.  I recommend that episode of Maher's show to everyone, even those who have soured a bit on him, or not even fans of his to begin with.

[Mark Moseley]

How to fix the Dem Party?

Gasoline & a match

[Jabbyrwock]

5 hours ago, Mark Moseley said:

How to fix the Dem Party?

Gasoline & a match

 

I guess...but only if its organic, gluten free gas.  And the match should be free range (obviously).

[Hersh]

9 hours ago, NoCalMike said:

Marianne Williamson was on Maher's show Friday and while she does have some weird quirks (the cyrstals....ah the crystals) she does come off as a big time consumer advocate, almost Nader-like in her ability to break down and explain the problems with the current economic system.  Her counter-part on the panel was a slick as hell libertarian trying to dress up his policies as something different, but Williamson snuffed him out big time.  He tried to do the routine where he attacks a symptom of the overall problem correctly, and even gets Williamson to agree, bit he tries to smoothly slip in the bait & switch by doing the "well we should remove all morality from the markets period" and that is the moment Williamson knew he was just the next in line to push for unregulated markets, which she correctly pointed was a major part of the reason we are in the current situation.  I recommend that episode of Maher's show to everyone, even those who have soured a bit on him, or not even fans of his to begin with.

 

I'll check it out. Used to watch all the time for years but haven't watched in a couple of years as he provides platforms for some awful ****ing people without ever pushing back on their awfulness. 

[China]

Dem-on-Dem primary in Michigan spikes party's blood pressure

 

Rep. Andy Levin passed up a run in a newly created Michigan battleground district and instead took on his own colleague, Rep. Haley Stevens. And some of their fellow Democrats are privately livid.

 

Levin‘s decision to challenge Stevens instead of campaigning for the newly redrawn district that included much of his old turf has set off an intraparty firestorm as some House Democrats fret that Levin abandoned a potentially winnable seat, likely handing it to Republicans. There’s also some closed-door fury with Levin for refusing to challenge one of the GOP’s prized recruits, John James, in a district where the Republican advantage is only slight.

 

With Democrats’ majority hanging on just a handful of districts, several of them even argued Levin’s choice could help seal their party’s fate come November.

 

“We need that seat,” said Rep. Ann Kuster (D-N.H.), who added she has personally urged Levin not to battle against Stevens and instead run in the tougher seat. “He’s got a well-known name, he has most of the constituents in that district, and all he had to do was work hard, roll up your sleeves. Why work hard against a colleague?”

 

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[The Evil Genius]

I am sure this will get a lot of negative pushback..like the concept of the 8hr work day did.

 

 

[The 12th Commandment]

59 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

I am sure this will get a lot of negative pushback..like the concept of the 8hr work day did.

 

 

It would deal with the large amount of people working just under 40 hours so outfits like Wal-Mart can advertise they offer benefits without actually offering them to very many people.

[PleaseBlitz]

25 minutes ago, The 12th Commandment said:

It would deal with the large amount of people working just under 40 hours so outfits like Wal-Mart can advertise they offer benefits without actually offering them to very many people.

 

They'll just do it so people work just under 32 hours.  

[The 12th Commandment]

3 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

They'll just do it so people work just under 32 hours.  

I thought of that, but with labor shortages taking place maybe they run out people to hire?  Only so many to go around.

[PleaseBlitz]

32 minutes ago, The 12th Commandment said:

I thought of that, but with labor shortages taking place maybe they run out people to hire?  Only so many to go around.

That would be true for most businesses but not WalMart specifically since they just need bodies, not people with any skills. 

[Destino]

Specific laws will never fix things for workers.  You need labor unions for almost every job.  Want Walmart to pay it’s fair share?  Every single employee should belong to a union.  Changing the rules to 32 hours will just result in Walmart changing how many hours they have their employees work.  
 

I’d argue that ending corporate fiduciary responsibility to share holders, and changing it to stake holders, would go a long way as well.  

[The 12th Commandment]

46 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

That would be true for most businesses but not WalMart specifically since they just need bodies, not people with any skills. 

Right behind leisure and hospitality on the list of labor shortages by industry is wholesale and retail trade.

 

https://www.uschamber.com/workforce/understanding-americas-labor-shortage-the-most-impacted-industries

Edited April 15, 2022 by The 12th Commandment

[PleaseBlitz]

3 minutes ago, The 12th Commandment said:

Right behind leisure and hospitality on the list of labor shortages by industry is wholesale and retail trade.

 

https://www.uschamber.com/workforce/understanding-americas-labor-shortage-the-most-impacted-industries

 

First, my post very clearly said "[t]hat would be true for most businesses but not WalMart specifically."  So I very clearly was not referring to the entire wholesale and retail trade.  LOTS of retailers need people with specific skills in their particular retail niche.  WalMart has very specifically designed its operations so it just needs bodies.  Not even people that can speak English or communicate with consumers, just bodies.  

Second, per that article:

 

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During the pandemic reshuffling, jobs that require in-person attendance and traditionally have lower wages, have had a more difficult time retaining workers. For example, the leisure and hospitality and retail industries have had the highest quit rates since November 2020, consistently above 4.5 percent.

 

But at the same time, the hiring rate has been even higher. Leisure and hospitality lost 1 million workers in November 2021, but 1.2 million people were hired into the industry that same month. In fact, leisure and hospitality has maintained the highest hiring rate of all industries since November 2020 at 8.1 percent. This is compared to the national hiring rate of 4.5 percent.

 

It doesn't say what the hiring rate for retail was, but clearly there is more to the story. 

[China]

 

Let's start by electing younger politicians:

 

Colleagues worry Dianne Feinstein is now mentally unfit to serve, citing recent interactions

 

When a California Democrat in Congress recently engaged in an extended conversation with Sen. Dianne Feinstein, they prepared for a rigorous policy discussion like those they’d had with her many times over the last 15 years.

 

Instead, the lawmaker said, they had to reintroduce themselves to Feinstein multiple times during an interaction that lasted several hours.

 

Rather than delve into policy, Feinstein, 88, repeated the same small-talk questions, like asking the lawmaker what mattered to voters in their district, the member of Congress said, with no apparent recognition the two had already had a similar conversation.

 

The episode was so unnerving that the lawmaker — who spoke to The Chronicle on condition they not be identified because of the sensitivity of the topic — began raising concerns with colleagues to see if some kind of intervention to persuade Feinstein to retire was possible. Feinstein’s term runs through the end of 2024. The conversation occurred several weeks before the death of her husband in February.

 

“I have worked with her for a long time and long enough to know what she was like just a few years ago: always in command, always in charge, on top of the details, basically couldn’t resist a conversation where she was driving some bill or some idea. All of that is gone,” the lawmaker said. “She was an intellectual and political force not that long ago, and that’s why my encounter with her was so jarring. Because there was just no trace of that.”

 

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[88Comrade2000]

2 hours ago, China said:

 

Let's start by electing younger politicians:

 

Colleagues worry Dianne Feinstein is now mentally unfit to serve, citing recent interactions

 

When a California Democrat in Congress recently engaged in an extended conversation with Sen. Dianne Feinstein, they prepared for a rigorous policy discussion like those they’d had with her many times over the last 15 years.

 

Instead, the lawmaker said, they had to reintroduce themselves to Feinstein multiple times during an interaction that lasted several hours.

 

Rather than delve into policy, Feinstein, 88, repeated the same small-talk questions, like asking the lawmaker what mattered to voters in their district, the member of Congress said, with no apparent recognition the two had already had a similar conversation.

 

The episode was so unnerving that the lawmaker — who spoke to The Chronicle on condition they not be identified because of the sensitivity of the topic — began raising concerns with colleagues to see if some kind of intervention to persuade Feinstein to retire was possible. Feinstein’s term runs through the end of 2024. The conversation occurred several weeks before the death of her husband in February.

 

“I have worked with her for a long time and long enough to know what she was like just a few years ago: always in command, always in charge, on top of the details, basically couldn’t resist a conversation where she was driving some bill or some idea. All of that is gone,” the lawmaker said. “She was an intellectual and political force not that long ago, and that’s why my encounter with her was so jarring. Because there was just no trace of that.”

 

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That’s because the old folks in both parties refuse to let go. More in the Dem than Gop because the Dems have more older long time pols.

[@DCGoldPants]

17 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

That’s because the old folks in both parties refuse to let go. More in the Dem than Gop because the Dems have more older long time pols.

I don't know has more super seniors. But it's a problem. 

 

Feinstein stepping down and having Porter and her whiteboard move over to the Senate would be a strong move that'll never happen. Selfishness and power. That's what matters to these people. 

[88Comrade2000]

3 hours ago, @DCGoldPants said:

I don't know has more super seniors. But it's a problem. 

 

Feinstein stepping down and having Porter and her whiteboard move over to the Senate would be a strong move that'll never happen. Selfishness and power. That's what matters to these people. 

I think most of the older gop pols are senators. They have decent turnover in the house; so the congressmen are more younger.   The Dems have many long pols in the house that’s been there a long time.   Don’t know the age of all the Dem senators. Too lazy to research.

 

The Dems leadership is mostly older geezers. So, the Dems are stale and can’t really see or fight the autocratic threat the gop is.

[@DCGoldPants]

7 hours ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

I think most of the older gop pols are senators. They have decent turnover in the house; so the congressmen are more younger.   The Dems have many long pols in the house that’s been there a long time.   Don’t know the age of all the Dem senators. Too lazy to research.

 

The Dems leadership is mostly older geezers. So, the Dems are stale and can’t really see or fight the autocratic threat the gop is.

 

Grassley is 88, Shelby is 86, Inhofe is 86. People pushing 90 years old, making decisions that will impacts decades after they are long gone.

[TheDoyler23]

2 hours ago, @DCGoldPants said:

 

Grassley is 88, Shelby is 86, Inhofe is 86. People pushing 90 years old, making decisions that will impacts decades after they are long gone.

 

The chilling thing is that they aren't Boomers... There is an entire other generation + in the way once these fogies finally let go. 

[@DCGoldPants]

3 hours ago, TheDoyler23 said:

 

The chilling thing is that they aren't Boomers... There is an entire other generation + in the way once these fogies finally let go. 

 

They are called the Silent Generation. Too bad they aren't.

[China]

Billionaire Peltz draws GOP megadonors to $5,000-a-plate fundraiser for Democrat Sen. Joe Manchin

 

Wall Street veteran Nelson Peltz hosted a $5,000-a-plate fundraiser for Sen. Joe Manchin at the billionaire’s sprawling Florida estate last month, where several top executives said they privately hoped the conservative Democrat would switch parties and run against President Joe Biden in the 2024 election, CNBC has learned.

 

Peltz, who is a co-founder of investment fund Trian Partners, hosted Manchin along with at least 50 executives for a lunch aimed at raising funds for the West Virginia lawmaker’s reelection campaign, according to someone who attended the event. They declined to be named in order to discuss the private event.

 

A spokeswoman for Peltz confirmed that the longtime finance executive hosted the fundraiser and reaffirmed the billionaire’s support for Manchin. Emails to Manchin’s campaign office and a call to his Capitol Hill office weren’t immediately returned. Manchin has previously said he has no plans to switch parties.

 

“Mr. Peltz supports Mr. Manchin. He believes Mr. Manchin is a rare elected politician from both sides of the aisle who puts country before party, something which Mr. Peltz believes is much needed in our country today,” Anne Tarbell, Peltz’s spokeswoman, said in an email to CNBC. Peltz told CNBC last year that he speaks to Manchin every week and has been personal friends with him for a decade.

 

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[Cooked Crack]

 

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