A New Start! (the Reboot) The Front Office, Ownership, & Coaching Staff Thread

[SkinsFTW]

7 hours ago, Redwards said:

I swear, this organization is as incompetent as ever.  They simply cannot get anything right.  It's still not a damn statue.  It's a freaking wire mannequin.  

 

But in a couple weeks they're going to replace the wire coat hanger thing with a paper mache Sean Taylor doll so we have that to look forward to.

[88Comrade2000]

If Dan really sells the team, I would prefer if the new owner clean house. Get rid of Ron and his entire crew; even if the owner doesn’t take over until May/June 23.

[Riggo#44]

12 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

If Dan really sells the team, I would prefer if the new owner clean house. Get rid of Ron and his entire crew; even if the owner doesn’t take over until May/June 23.

That's suicide. Bringing in a new coaching staff as they're preparing/running OTAs and mini-camps is bat**** stupid.

[Redwards]

5 hours ago, SkinsFTW said:

 

But in a couple weeks they're going to replace the wire coat hanger thing with a paper mache Sean Taylor doll so we have that to look forward to.

[Redwards]

9 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

That's suicide. Bringing in a new coaching staff as they're preparing/running OTAs and mini-camps is bat**** stupid.

Yep.

 

Unfortunately, a sale won't be final or even close to final in time to select a FO and HC.  We'd  be picking over the extreme leftovers.

 

If that sale does go through, we're gonna be saddled with Ron and his staff for another year.  That makes me want to throw up but there really aren't any smart alternatives.  Let the new owner and GM get their ducks in a row and head into the next offseason ready to select a great HC candidate.  

 

Next year is already a waste, sadly.  The years are passing, Ron can't assemble a championship roster or FO, and our best players will be yet another year older.  I really don't see Terry and Jon experiencing much success in their careers in Washington.  Just not in the cards for them more than likely.  It's a crime for players like that (makes my heart ache for Ken Harvey all over again) but they re-signed here of their own free will, so I only feel but so bad for them.

[Riggo#44]

5 hours ago, SkinsFTW said:

 

But in a couple weeks they're going to replace the wire coat hanger thing with a paper mache Sean Taylor doll so we have that to look forward to.

Are they going to cover it in burgundy and gold...and black glitter too?

[88Comrade2000]

29 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

That's suicide. Bringing in a new coaching staff as they're preparing/running OTAs and mini-camps is bat**** stupid.

Sucking in 23 is good. Puts us in better position for a qb in 24. Ron will just hover around 6-9 wins.

[Zim489]

37 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

That's suicide. Bringing in a new coaching staff as they're preparing/running OTAs and mini-camps is bat**** stupid.

Sweet. We’re in the Caleb Williams sweepstakes. 
 

It’s another typical Ron Rivera season:

1) Abysmal start to the year
2) Rally back to .500 and get the fans back into it
3) Crap the bed in crucial moments and miss the playoffs
4) Win too many games to get a good enough draft pick

Rinse and repeat. 

[@DCGoldPants]

49 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

If Dan really sells the team, I would prefer if the new owner clean house. Get rid of Ron and his entire crew; even if the owner doesn’t take over until May/June 23.

 

It would happen. Depending on timeline. You start with your front office. Get in all the right pieces there. If the coaches they want aren't available because they are already committed to the '23 season elsewhere. Then they will wait and focus on scouting potential free agents and college kids that fit their desired coaches systems. But they won't hire someone in the middle of the summer. Nobody worth having will be available. They can totally let Turner go and maybe Ken Zampese or someone else can be the OC for one year. Can't keep Turner. He doesn't get it. 

[Zim489]

I’m terrified of what a desperate Ron might do this upcoming offseason. 

[Skinsinparadise]

I am only terrified of one thing and that is Dan reneges on selling.  I am optimistic that he sells but there is zero indication that its a slam dunk.  Even if I hated Rivera (and I don't), the owner is still all I'd care about.  Coaching one way or another can always work its way out.  the owner is a way different story. 

 

I don't know if I'd go as far as the tweet below but i get the sentiment.  A black clowd is over this organization as long as that douche is the head of it.  On a scale of 0-100 - Dan is at 150 as to being the problem with winning in the future. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by Skinsinparadise

[Csup]

56 minutes ago, Zim489 said:

I’m terrified of what a desperate Ron might do this upcoming offseason. 

Probably trade for Russell Wilson 

[88Comrade2000]

I’d rather have an interim one year coach than another year of Ron. We can  hire interim coach Lovie Smith after he gets fired . Lovie wins only one game and we have the number #1 pick for 24.

[Skinsinparadise]

I am VERY jealous of all the people who are already past Dan and are worried about coaching next year.   😀

 

For me, they can turn back to Jim Zorn to run the team and forfeit all their draft picks and if I know Dan is gone i'll grin and bear through anything on a temporary basis. 

[CommDownMan]

1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

I am only terrified of one thing and that is Dan reneges on selling.  I am optimistic that he sells but there is zero indication that its a slam dunk.  Even if I hated Rivera (and I don't), the owner is still all I'd care about.  Coaching one way or another can always work its way out.  the owner is a way different story. 

 

I don't know if I'd go as far as the tweet below but i get the sentiment.  A black clowd is over this organization as long as that douche is the head of it.  On a scale of 0-100 - Dan is at 150 as to being the problem with winning in the future. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This team hasn't appeared great, but it takes getting at least the obvious calls to go their way, which makes days like yesterday frustrating.

 

If this is a message to Dan Snyder that they will never let this team win with him as owner and avoids him reneging on selling, then maybe it's for the best.  However, it's a lot of collateral damage if they are truly telling refs to swing it, even if they just choose a few moments to make a slightly altered "judgement" call as the one ref put it.  (Not saying they are, but it's not that farfetched for a league that allows Snyder to run free as long as he has and at times with support of hiding the mess...).  

[Zim489]

20 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

I am VERY jealous of all the people who are already past Dan and are worried about coaching next year.   😀

 

For me, they can turn back to Jim Zorn to run the team and forfeit all their draft picks and if I know Dan is gone i'll grin and bear through anything on a temporary basis. 

It can be both at the same time 

[Riggo#44]

1 hour ago, Zim489 said:

Sweet. We’re in the Caleb Williams sweepstakes. 
 

It’s another typical Ron Rivera season:

1) Abysmal start to the year
2) Rally back to .500 and get the fans back into it
3) Crap the bed in crucial moments and miss the playoffs
4) Win too many games to get a good enough draft pick

Rinse and repeat. 

 

I could have set my watch to this post.

31 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

I am VERY jealous of all the people who are already past Dan and are worried about coaching next year.   😀

 

For me, they can turn back to Jim Zorn to run the team and forfeit all their draft picks and if I know Dan is gone i'll grin and bear through anything on a temporary basis. 

 

I don't care if we win again--I was legitimately worried we'd get on a roll, win a playoff game and Snyder would revert back to 2002 mentality (when he brought back Vinny because he wasn't having fun) and not sell because "hey, I finally got it and everyone loves me again!"

[@DCGoldPants]

44 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

I’d rather have an interim one year coach than another year of Ron. We can  hire interim coach Lovie Smith after he gets fired . Lovie wins only one game and we have the number #1 pick for 24.

 

It just doesn't work like that. Nobody is going to sign for 1 year and no ownership who is good at their jobs, will do that. They'd sooner strip Ron of all front office control and spend the season building up their scouting, medical staff, planning new facilities, training programs. 

[Riggo#44]

1 minute ago, @DCGoldPants said:

 

It just doesn't work like that. Nobody is going to sign for 1 year and no ownership who is good at their jobs, will do that. They'd sooner strip Ron of all front office control and spend the season building up their scouting, medical staff, planning new facilities, training programs. 

The amount of people that personally hate Ron Rivera kind of make me fear for his safety.

[Ball Security]

45 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

I’d rather have an interim one year coach than another year of Ron. We can  hire interim coach Lovie Smith after he gets fired . Lovie wins only one game and we have the number #1 pick for 24.

Then Goodell takes away that pick for the Snyder punishment.  They weren’t going to take away number 11 in a bad QB draft.  They won’t take away the late teens draft in ‘23.  They’ll take away the high first rounder when there’s a chance at a legit QB.  That’s why tanking doesn’t make sense.

 

That doesn’t even take into consideration the bad press we’d get when we hire our first Black HC to simply be a one and done placeholder.

[Skinsinparadise]

3 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

 

I don't care if we win again--I was legitimately worried we'd get on a roll, win a playoff game and Snyder would revert back to 2002 mentality (when he brought back Vinny because he wasn't having fun) and not sell because "hey, I finally got it and everyone loves me again!"

 

That is my one fear about winning.  Dan has won so little that he seems to bask in just a little success.  I recall reading that eons ago he would rub it into Jerry that the Redskins won one playoff game in 10 years and in that same span the Cowboys hadn't or something like that.

 

Dan seems hungry for just a modicum of success.  If they win and he starts believing this is the start of something special, it might add to any feeling that he might have about not selling.

16 minutes ago, Zim489 said:

It can be both at the same time 

 

If you are equally focused on Ron and Dan at the same time, then again I am jealous.

 

It''s not a criticism, I meant it just as I said it, I wish I had angst about the off season outside of Dan let alone it being equal to my angst about Dan. 

 

For me the off season will be all about Dan selling.  Everything else I don't give a rats behind about in comparison.    It's not 50-50 for me.  For me its 100% Dan, Dan, Dan.  Sell the team!

[Redwards]

5 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

That is my one fear about winning.  Dan has won so little that he seems to bask in just a little success.  I recall reading that eons ago he would rub it into Jerry that the Redskins won one playoff game in 10 years and in that same span the Cowboys hadn't or something like that.

 

Dan seems hungry for just a modicum of success.  If they win and he starts believing this is the start of something special, it might add to any feeling that he might have about not selling.

 

If you are equally focused on Ron and Dan at the same time, then again I am jealous.

 

It''s not a criticism, I meant it just as I said it, I wish I had angst about the off season outside of Dan let alone it being equal to my angst about Dan. 

 

For me the off season will be all about Dan selling.  Everything else I don't give a rats behind about in comparison.    It's not 50-50 for me.  For me its 100% Dan, Dan, Dan.  Sell the team!

[Zim489]

12 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

The amount of people that personally hate Ron Rivera kind of make me fear for his safety.

This is one of the most bonkers posts I have seen on here. 

11 minutes ago, Ball Security said:

Then Goodell takes away that pick for the Snyder punishment.  They weren’t going to take away number 11 in a bad QB draft.  They won’t take away the late teens draft in ‘23.  They’ll take away the high first rounder when there’s a chance at a legit QB.  That’s why tanking doesn’t make sense.

 

That doesn’t even take into consideration the bad press we’d get when we hire our first Black HC to simply be a one and done placeholder.

They arent taking any pick. That only hurts the team and makes the fans hate dan more. 

[Riggo#44]

1 minute ago, Zim489 said:

This is one of the most bonkers posts I have seen on here. 

 

Then you clearly don't read your own posts...which actually makes a lot of sense.

12 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Dan has won so little that he seems to bask in just a little success.

 

This applies to everything he has touched since Snyder Communications...

[Zim489]

25 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

Then you clearly don't read your own posts...which actually makes a lot of sense.

I think hes a fantastic person. Mediocre at best football coach. Great motivator and leader. Trash at leading an entire football operation.