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Pay Attention Knuckleheads

 

 

Has your team support wained due to ownership or can you see past it?  

229 members have voted

  1. 1. Will you attend a game and support the team while Dan Snyder is the owner of the team, regardless of success?

    • Yes
      47
    • No
      106
    • I would start attending games if Dan was no longer the owner of the team.
      77

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Cooleyfan1993

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Just now, BrentMeisterGeneral said:

Ron learning from his mistakes I see …


Honestly this ****ing guy man 😂

I mean, after the Dallas game, the timeline that Dotson would be out for was 2 games (titans, then bears), and being back for packers. Dotson practiced Tuesday and yesterday with no issues, what was Ron supposed to do? 

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11 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

I mean, after the Dallas game, the timeline that Dotson would be out for was 2 games (titans, then bears), and being back for packers. Dotson practiced Tuesday and yesterday with no issues, what was Ron supposed to do? 


Urge strong caution after watching another wideout get plagued with this kind of injury that’s prone to recurrence

 

Maybe it’s not on Ron but if they’ve rushed him back the buck stops with him

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1 minute ago, BrentMeisterGeneral said:

We’ve had two in the last two years and both have recurred

 

I will say that I obviously don’t know for sure that they have rushed him back, but they’ve got previous and this isn’t a good look

John Keim did say on twitter that he had been doing well in practice, and his hamstring was feeling fine, so there was high optimism for his return this week. if the timeline was 2 games missed, and after those two games, he has 2 good practices in a row, I can see why there would be optimism that he’ll be back playing this weekend. 

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25 minutes ago, BrentMeisterGeneral said:

We’ve had two in the last two years and both have recurred

 

I will say that I obviously don’t know for sure that they have rushed him back, but they’ve got previous and this isn’t a good look

 

This has echoes of Santana Moss in like 06, 07, 08 or so. Hammies are hammies.

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5 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Jason Wright botched the ST21 ceremony last year in two ways, first springing it as a last minute "surprise" when it was clear that no planning had been done.  And then the whole port-o-john fiasco with his family, it was just disgusting.  He took a lot of **** for it, issued a ****ing lame apology, and then vanished into hiding from about late October to early December, popping up like nothing ever happened.  

 

And then the whole Commanders rebrand, but I don't need to say much about how it's been a travashamockery all along. 

My respect for Wright has definitely dropped, but how much of this is driven by Snyder? They have his fingerprints all over it: ill-planned, poorly executed events are his specialty.

 

Didn't the Taylor number fiasco happen about the same time as the 1st Hobson article in the Post, or there abouts? I remember thinking it was a distraction from a fiasco, also a Snyder staple.

As for the name, it reeks of Snyder. Poorly conceived, military theme Snyder thinks will be a hit, misses completely. He could have went and gotten a TM for Redwolves, but he threw out a lame excuse, because he had a 4-hr, Cialis-induced hard on for Commanders.

I literally hate our owner more than our rivals.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/10/20/if-owner-daniel-snyder-were-get-ousted-how-would-go/10534629002/

 

The process is as follows:

  1. Either commissioner Roger Goodell or any member of the ownership's executive committee may present charges on the ground that Snyder "has violated the provisions of the Constitution and Bylaws or is or has been guilty of conduct detrimental to the League or to professional football." Those charges would need to be submitted in writing.
  2. Goodell then would have the right to conduct an investigation "as he deems appropriate." After that, he must submit a copy of the charges by mail to each NFL team, and to Snyder. In that correspondence, Goodell would have the right to make a recommendation concerning suspension or termination of ownership.
  3. Snyder would then have 15 days to file to Goodell a written response. Goodell would then deliver a copy of the response to the other owners of the league.
  4. Goodell would then call a "special meeting," the time and place of which he would designate, "to hear the charges." Goodell would preside over the meeting.
  5. Snyder would have the right to appear in person at the meeting and would also have the right to legal representation. According to the constitution and bylaws, "strict rules of evidence shall not apply, and any testimony and documentary evidence submitted to the hearing shall be received and considered."
    Snyder and his team would then be entitled "to an adjournment for a reasonable time" to allow for a rebuttal.
  6. After hearing the evidence from both sides, a vote would be held. A three-quarters majority — or 24 votes — are necessary to approve removal. One quick note worth pointing out here: since Snyder or any Commanders representative would undoubtedly vote against the measure, the bar to clear would need to be 24 of 31 available votes.
  7. Should the vote to terminate Snyder's ownership of the Commanders succeed, he would be forced to sell the franchise within 120 days. If Snyder does not fulfill that order, he and Goodell would then need to mutually agree to the price and terms of sale. If they cannot reach a mutual agreement, then the matter would go to arbitration.

The unspoken part

This is where internal politics come into play. Rationally, it does not make sense for Goodell or any member of the ownership's executive committee to present charges against Snyder if they do not feel certain there is enough support to reach the 24 votes. The reason being that if charges are presented and the vote to terminate ownership fails, it would likely create a schism and could disrupt the harmony and collaborative energy necessary for league affairs to run smoothly.

These conversations presumably would take place in smaller, backdoor channels, among close allies, in order to get an unofficial head count of who is in favor. 

Could Snyder refuse this process?

Although the Commanders issued a strongly worded statement Tuesday in response to Irsay, reiterating the stance that Snyder does not intend to sell, it's within reason that he may not want to go through the process of being questioned before his peers and would preemptively sell. 

"We are confident that, when he has an opportunity to see the actual evidence in this case, Mr. Irsay will conclude that there is no reason for the Snyders to consider selling the franchise," Tuesday's statement read. "And they won’t."

Has this mechanism ever been used before?

No. The closest example came in December 2017, when Carolina Panthers founder and former owner Jerry Richardson voluntarily put the team up for sale two days after the Panthers disclosed Richardson, then 81, was the subject of an internal investigation over alleged workplace misconduct. According to a report from Sports Illustrated, the claims included sexual harassment and the alleged use of a racial slur toward an African American scout. Though Richardson faced public pressure to sell, he never faced opposition from NFL owners. In fact, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said in December 2017 that he was "really sad" that Richardson put the team up for sale, calling him "one of the really, really, really outstanding men of football."

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4 hours ago, ClaytoAli said:

If Dan goes, the current team name should go. No association with him going forward.

Yep but the new owner will probably be stuck with it for a year or two until they came up with a new name; unless they like it.

 

If they do change the name; just completely cut ties to the past and come up with a new color scheme. Sever all ties to Redskins. That team is long dead.

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6 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

Yep but the new owner will probably be stuck with it for a year or two until they came up with a new name; unless they like it.

 

If they do change the name; just completely cut ties to the past and come up with a new color scheme. Sever all ties to Redskins. That team is long dead.


On this we agree. It’s probably not realistic at all but I’d prefer a completely new, fresh, disconnected rebrand if it happens under a new owner. But I’m not gonna get greedy, either. The ONLY way I’ll ever actively work to get over my dislike of Commanders is under a new owner. The name/brand will get a clean slate from me if Snyder sells and the new owner doesn’t/can’t rebrand.

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88Comrade2000

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Frankly, if someone going to buy the team for $5 Billion plus; they can spend their own money to finance a $1-2 Billion dollar stadium.

 

Other than infrastructure improvements around the stadium; no taxpayer money should be given to a billionaire to build a stadium. He can finance one for himself.

 

Any politician that does give taxpayer money for a Jeff Bezos to build a stadium; needs to be voted out.

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8 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

Frankly, if someone going to buy the team for $5 Billion plus; they can spend their own money to finance a $1-2 Billion dollar stadium.

 

Other than infrastructure improvements around the stadium; no taxpayer money should be given to a billionaire to build a stadium. He can finance one for himself.

 

Any politician that does give taxpayer money for a Jeff Bezos to build a stadium; needs to be voted out.

I hear you but the billionaire counter argument to that is the tax revenue an NFL stadium in your district and state represents.  And the possibility said billionaire could take that revenue and leave.  So it becomes a partnership that benefits both parties including the fans / voters who love hate their smart / idiot councilman for getting rid of / keeping their favorite team and access to a good time.

 

Similar to Lebron and his value to the Cleveland market.  His value to the town was bigger than his value to the Cavs because the businesses downtown Cleveland thrived on his presence by creating the buzz in downtown Cleveland.  Creates a lot of jobs and makes other corporate sponsors want to invest their businesses there.

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You know since it’s looking like there’s a strong chance the push to remove Dan next spring; there’s really

no point in watching the team until Dan is gone.

 

If I were Terry, Jonathan and some other players; I’d ask to be traded next offseason. Knowing the team is going to be a ****show until the ownership issue is settled one way or another; why stay on a team that won’t be able to win. We get some draft picks for the new owner to rebuild and those players go somewhere where they can win.

 

We are going suck until this team gets sold. Free agents aren’t signing here. It’s going be bad while the fight to remove Dan goes on.

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2 hours ago, Riggo#44 said:

My respect for Wright has definitely dropped, but how much of this is driven by Snyder? They have his fingerprints all over it: ill-planned, poorly executed events are his specialty.

 

Didn't the Taylor number fiasco happen about the same time as the 1st Hobson article in the Post, or there abouts? I remember thinking it was a distraction from a fiasco, also a Snyder staple.

As for the name, it reeks of Snyder. Poorly conceived, military theme Snyder thinks will be a hit, misses completely. He could have went and gotten a TM for Redwolves, but he threw out a lame excuse, because he had a 4-hr, Cialis-induced hard on for Commanders.

I literally hate our owner more than our rivals.

 

This is a good point. I used to think that it was crazy how every time something good happened to us, something at least equally bad came immediately afterward.  Starting to think they know these things are coming down and release good news beforehand to ease some of the backlash.  If so I would think it would make more sense to release good news after the bad news.  But hey they don't do anything right.

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