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The State of the Economy Thread - “Falling inflation, rising growth give U.S. the world’s best recovery”


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On 4/17/2020 at 12:27 PM, No Excuses said:

People like Elizabeth Warren have been correct about the fundamental flaws of our economy for the past twenty years, yet they remain out of influential power and the ghouls who support this very flawed system keep finding themselves in control of economic policy again and again. Larry Kudlow is still somehow a thing after he wasn't completed disgraced in 2007 for laughably wrong statements. Larry Kudlow is still somehow a thing after he wasn't completed disgraced in 2020 for more laughably wrong statements.

Warren says 20 years because that's when she realized it was broken. The trickle-down lie goes back 40 years when Reagan told Americans the sky was green and Americans voted for his insanity twice, while our neoliberal friends in the Democratic party said cool.

 

We are effed unless some drastic changes happen to the economy in this country. Punishing corruption isn't enough. 

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8 minutes ago, skinfan2k said:

Oil down to 16 cents per barrel.  Lets go baby.  Change to electric or hydrogen!  

 

Free energy should be good for at least some parts of the economy.

18 minutes ago, No Excuses said:

Wasn’t the DOTARD bragging about some agreement he reached with MBS and Putin to stabilize oil prices? Could it be that he is in fact an idiot and a pathological liar?

 

Just imagine how much worse it would have been without his intervention.

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3 minutes ago, Corcaigh said:

Free energy should be good for at least some parts of the economy.

 

I would think "every single part except the oil companies".  

 

Every other industry on the planet is an energy consumer.  

 

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Nothing.  No one benefits from this. Even if you have an in demand service, people have to eat, put shelter over their heads and maintain their health.  That leaves minimal money for yoh.  

 

There's a reason that the "powers that be" have tried to avoid an economic downturn.  Yes, even if it makes people angry to manipulate the market. 

 

The people who benefit are already sitting on piles of cash.  You can buy all the land you want.  

 

For anyone sane... there are going to be a larger and larger amount of angry, hungry, jobless people.  

 

Our society and economy hasn't been structured to protect us from this... dislocation.  

 

 

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47 minutes ago, skinfan2k said:

Fale.  For those not retiring anytime soon, stocks are going to drop and we are able to buy more stocks at a cheaper price. 

 

That's a fabulous plan, if

 

1. The stock market actually drops 

 

And

 

2. You still have a job and money to buy said stocks

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4 minutes ago, techboy said:

 

That's a fabulous plan, if

 

1. The stock market actually drops 

 

And

 

2. You still have a job and money to buy said stocks

 

3)  The stocks get better, after you buy them.  

 

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1 hour ago, Larry said:

 

3)  The stocks get better, after you buy them.  

 

 

If you have a long enough time horizon, stocks do generally go up (although the Nikkei in Japan is a disturbing exception for the last few decades), so I left that out.

 

That IS a risk, of course, but that's why they call it a risk premium, and is assumed in buying stocks instead of US bonds in the first place.

 

*Edit* Although, upon reflection, I'm thinking through the lens of broad market indexes. Buying individual stocks definitely exacerbates this point. Companies individually definitely do crash and not come back all the time.

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