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@DCGoldPants Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Seems like beyond the talking heads and former elected GOPers, they usuals have been pretty quiet tonight. The double Holmes/Parvas whammy probably has them hunkering until a new message is tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Jesus, even now they're still going to try and harp on the "not first hand" thing? "Well, he wasn't actually talking directly to POTUS since he wasn't the one on the phone. So it isn't technically first hand, so it can be dismissed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Well that's it. Even the goal post has had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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88Comrade2000 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 hours ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said: I think this slow drip everyday is making a dent with some of his women supporters. I think they have Trump fatigue too. Not saying they will vote for a Dem next year, but I think some will not vote for him. This is just based on the vibe around where I live and also at Taco Bell. The Taco Bell voter? Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dan T. Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I’m glad Adam Schiff is wielding that gavel aggressively. He tried to be somewhat accommodating early on and they disparaged him every chance they got anyway. So he’s saying ef it I’m not giving these clowns an inch. Good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Simmsy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: The Taco Bell voter? Hmmm. I think the slow drip is the way to go, I think hearing about how Trump definitely tried to bribe Zelensky spoken about in a definite way (he definitely did it) will whittle down their illusions of innocence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 9 hours ago, visionary said: "Our report of what happened during the President's call differs from reality because our report was actually the script for what the President was planning to say, and he didn't follow it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 10 hours ago, visionary said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Part of me says the House should vote, today, to send an article of impeachment to the Senate, for Obstruction of Justice. Specifically, the President ordering the entire white house staff, in fact, the entire executive branch, to ignore congressional subpoenas. Let the Senate hold a straight, up or down vote, to choose between: 1) Removing him from office for ordering the defiance of subpoenas. 2) Voting, on the record, that the executive branch is immune to Congress. Keep the investigation going, on the other counts. Just ask the court (the court which actually has jurisdiction over the case) whether the suspect has the right to ignore warrants and subpoenas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: What’s this from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Asked a MAGA coworker what would make him support impeachment. "If Adam Schiff ended up dead" Its all in the trenches now. Republicans are dug in for the long haul. It's tough to admit that you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, Larry said: Part of me says the House should vote, today, to send an article of impeachment to the Senate, for Obstruction of Justice. Specifically, the President ordering the entire white house staff, in fact, the entire executive branch, to ignore congressional subpoenas. Let the Senate hold a straight, up or down vote, to choose between: 1) Removing him from office for ordering the defiance of subpoenas. 2) Voting, on the record, that the executive branch is immune to Congress. Keep the investigation going, on the other counts. Just ask the court (the court which actually has jurisdiction over the case) whether the suspect has the right to ignore warrants and subpoenas. No f'ing way do you do that. With how Trump couldn't contain himself yesterday. You keep going slowly because he's going to do it again. Then you're forcing his defenders to talk about his tweets and not staying on script. You need Holmes to speak publicly. If you can get Parnas also, you need that too. He's admitting to meeting with Trump and Rudy to run a secret extortion plan on another country. Plus, you're giving the GOP more chances like Stefanik to end their careers early. Jordan/Nunes are going to keep handing things off to others to see if they can make headway. Stay on script. Stay calm. Move methodically. Just wait a few hours because the GOP will make mistakes. "No first hand knowledge"....... ok, here is a guy who heard the President and Sondland discuss it. "Well, that person was just listening, that isn't first hand knowledge". That's not how it works. We need to see Graham continue to destroy himself everyday when he has to move the goalposts again and again and again. 6 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: What’s this from? https://www.justsecurity.org/62174/pardon-furthers-conspiracy-limits-pardon-power/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Also, a funny reddit joke: Trump doesn't REALLY want to lock Hillary up. If he did, he would have appointed her to his administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Oh, Diaper Don. You were more likable when you were famous for pissing yourself in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 20 hours ago, NoCalMike said: Either this GOP counsel is purposely throwing softballs because he secretly is disgusted with the GOP, or he is the most ineffective lawyer I've ever seen on TV. In both appearance and demeanor, he reminds me of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngestson Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Springfield said: Also, a funny reddit joke: Trump doesn't REALLY want to lock Hillary up. If he did, he would have appointed her to his administration. Fair warning. I'm stealing that baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, youngestson said: Fair warning. I'm stealing that baby. If you’re stealing from me, you’ve stolen it twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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