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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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The Impeachment Thread

Impeachment  

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  1. 1. Should Donald Trump be impeached for obstruction of justice?



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1)  All this talk about "He's going to refuse to leave office" wasn't funny with the previous two Presidents, either.  

 

2)  If he does refuse to leave the White House, just wait till the next weekend.  

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9 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said:

Trump may refuse to leave office. At noon on Jan. 20, 2021 or 2025; the new president takes the oath. Trump can't stop that.  The new president will then give the order to forcibly remove Trump from the White House. 

It would be a shame were the Secret Service to use excessive force.

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28 minutes ago, PokerPacker said:

It would be a shame were the Secret Service to use excessive force.

He’s not just gonna say I’m not leaving. There will be court cases filed injunctive relief requested while the states review results. Then those can be disputed etc.  I’m telling you it’s gonna be a mess.  

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4 hours ago, Larry said:

1)  All this talk about "He's going to refuse to leave office" wasn't funny with the previous two Presidents, either.  

 

2)  If he does refuse to leave the White House, just wait till the next weekend.  

Well, to be fair to the last two presidents,,  the talk of Obama was the usual terrorism by the right wing media, and any talk of W was silly,, for all his faults, one never had any cause to doubt his allegiance to this country.

Trump on the other hand has shown nothing but contempt for law, contempt for the constitution and there are very real concerns he is not only a traitor, but an actual puppet installed by an enemy nation through widespread electoral fraud.

 

It won't be funny at all when it happens. But name me a single thing he's done to indicate he won't scream FAKE at any result that doesn't favor him and I will find you plenty of instances where he dropped hints that his status as President should become permanent.

 

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9 minutes ago, Bang said:

Well, to be fair to the last two presidents,,  the talk of Obama was the usual terrorism by the right wing media, and any talk of W was silly,, for all his faults, one never had any cause to doubt his allegiance to this country.

 

You are referring to the same W I am?  The one claiming that the constitution doesn't apply to (insert laundry list of excuses)?  Who ordered a US citizen disappeared from US soil and heald for two years without trial, charges, or a lawyer? The one who got elected by successfully preventing election officials from complying with Florida election law?   

 

I mean, granted, compared to Trump, he doesn't look as bad.  But let's not forget, either.  

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5 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

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Let's say there isn't a single Republican vote.  

 

Let's say that we produce records, of multiple phone conversations, by Donald Trump himself, diverting government funds, and using that diversion to try to bully the head of a foreign government (a country which is currently being invaded by the Russian army), into creating a fake investigation that he can't even get his own crooked DOJ to look into any more (because they already checked it out once, and got "complete exhoneration".)

 

And every single Republican in both houses of congress votes that they're OK with that.  

 

Is that really a political loss for the Dems?  Is Nancy really afraid that that scenario hurts her Party?  

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I think what kills me about this situation is we just spent 2 years investigating whether Trump sought foreign intervention in out election. At the end of it, the conclusion was he did lots of shady stuff which might be grounds for impeachment, but in the end there was no proof he asked for help.

FF a couple months, we now have people saying he asked for help from a country under siege that needs him to approve aid. What's more he admits he did it and says," and what's wrong with me asking them for something to help my election chances?"

 

Seriously dems, stop being cute about this. Replay all the Republicans saying they see nothing saying he asked Russia to help. Then impeach him on just this. Use the KISS method.

 

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID. Don't make it comicated or let him do 20 more lesser offenses to take the attention off this. Just use this.

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TWA, knowing your lobg term Republican creds, I would be curious to hear your truthful take on this and if you think your opinion would be the same regardless of the party of the president. Is this much ado about nothing existing only in a liberal echo chamber?

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3 hours ago, gbear said:

TWA, knowing your lobg term Republican creds, I would be curious to hear your truthful take on this and if you think your opinion would be the same regardless of the party of the president. Is this much ado about nothing existing only in a liberal echo chamber?

 

I think even twa has been backing away from this steaming pile of presidency, for a while now.

 

But I do also think that there are some Republican strategists who think that the best way to get the president reelected is to hope that the blue wave and their outrage over the president is overshadowed and outnumbered by Trumpsters coming out to the polls to defend "their guy" against a liberal plot.  The fear of this has been whats been keeping Pelosi playing **** for a while on impeachment.  What she doesnt understand is that that's boat's already sailed.  This election is very much gonna be about Trump, about impeachment.  Its not gonna be about policieis, its not gonna be about immigration, its not gonna be about anything but Trump v. world -- which Republican strategists will niftly convince a certain percentage of the population that its "us v. the world" because somehow Donald Trump represents whiteness. 

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On 9/21/2019 at 6:58 AM, Larry said:

1)  All this talk about "He's going to refuse to leave office" wasn't funny with the previous two Presidents, either.  

 

2)  If he does refuse to leave the White House, just wait till the next weekend.  

Want my prediction... he’s going to say it was all rigged just like he was saying when he thought he was going to lose the last election and just like he’s been saying that the Russia investigation was an illegal coup and just like he said Obama was illegally spying on him, etc., etc.

 

The entire GOP will endorse his bull**** just like they’ve been doing.

 

The right wing media will continue to spread their bull**** hate and fear and lies just like they’ve been doing.

 

Some idiotic, radicalized, mouth breathing morons are going to kill people.

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11 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Want my prediction... he’s going to say it was all rigged just like he was saying when he thought he was going to lose the last election and just like he’s been saying that the Russia investigation was an illegal coup and just like he said Obama was illegally spying on him, etc., etc.

 

The entire GOP will endorse his bull**** just like they’ve been doing.

 

The right wing media will continue to spread their bull**** hate and fear and lies just like they’ve been doing.

 

Some idiotic, radicalized, mouth breathing morons are going to kill people.

 

And ursoid creatures will defecate in arboreal regions. 

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9 minutes ago, Larry said:

And ursoid creatures will defecate in arboreal regions. 

I'm proud to say that I understand what that means after looking it up just now.

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10 hours ago, gbear said:

TWA, knowing your lobg term Republican creds, I would be curious to hear your truthful take on this and if you think your opinion would be the same regardless of the party of the president. Is this much ado about nothing existing only in a liberal echo chamber?

 

I'd be fine with impeaching him or reelecting him.

 

by this you mean threatening to withhold aid to get your desires? :pint:

 

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

 

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In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said:

David Pakman says that all the time...we're gonna have to beat them at the ballot box. It's true. 

 

Yup.  The folks that are pushing hardest for impeachment are the same folks that walked out of the DNC, that voted Libertarian, that spent the last 3 months painting Biden as a child molester.  They want a Hail Mary to take the stink off of em...and who could blame em?!?  Bless their little hearts...

 

A solid turnout in November 2020 is a far better outcome for the country than anything Nancy Pelosi can come up with right now.

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I think the difference is one threatening to withold aid unless they did something in their country impacting their country. It wasnt demanding they do something to help him personally. 

 

What's more, what happens if they do the investigation (again) and nothing comes of it? Could they expect to be able to report everything is above board and have Trump suddenly allow the aid?  Would you trust Trump for that aid? What it appears to come down to is "find something on the family of my opponent. Whether it is real or not, I expect you to use your resources to help me get elected or I am making sure you dont get aid...then the people who have been my good friends will benefit at your expense." 

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13 minutes ago, gbear said:

I think the difference is one threatening to withold aid unless they did something in their country impacting their country. It wasnt demanding they do something to help him personally. 

He already knew that. He just says ****.

 

Side note, you should change your screen name to gursoidcreature.

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15 minutes ago, gbear said:

I think the difference is one threatening to withold aid unless they did something in their country impacting their country. It wasnt demanding they do something to help him personally. 

 

There are accusations it benefitted Biden personally....most certainly his family.

 

of course accusations are like Sacks posts at times.

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58 minutes ago, twa said:

 

by this you mean threatening to withhold aid to get your desires? :pint:

 

"Look!  If you just ignore the fact that Trump's desire was to get a foreign government to generate a false narrative, to prop up the false narrative that even his hand picked partisans won't push any more, so the foreign government will help his election, then what he's confessed to becomes less illegal!"

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14 hours ago, twa said:

ya'll should replace Nancy.......kick this thing in gear.

 

Yall should replace McConnel so stands a chance of even going to trial instead of getting ignored

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