Momma There Goes That Man Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 48 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Just because they pay a lot of money doesn't mean they're trying to buy a World Series in the way the Yankees usually do. "bought" or developed, 27 of them ****es were won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: "bought" or developed, 27 of them ****es were won Eh, well, a good chunk of them were won before free agency. Steinbrenner's biggest fault was that's what he tried to do in free agency because it worked so well for him out of the gate. He hit it big with Reggie Jackson and Reggie played a big part in delivering back to back World Series titles in '77 and '78, one could argue he helped put them over the top after losing to the Reds in '76. And then Steinbrenner couldn't do it again. He tried it with Dave Winfield, it didn't work and in the mid 80s he traded for Rickey Henderson, giving him a lineup of Rickey, Mattingly and Winfield. Didn't have the pitching, but he kept trying to acquire high priced free agents and he couldn't win. So then he gets suspended in the early 90s and allows Gene Michael to build it the right way. They draft Pettite, Jeter, Rivera, Posada and built a good team with veterans around them but Steinbrenner gets reinstated in time to take credit for the glory years of the late 90s. And then he goes right back at it, trying to buy more titles, Giambi, Teixiera, Randy Johnson, A-Rod and everyone else I can't remember. They broke through in 2009 but I think anyone with an objective look would say that the Yankees haven't had a great return on investment for all the splashes they've made. And the Steinbrenner son seems to be making the same mistakes his dad did, although he doesn't have as much bluster and bravado as the old man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just now, Spaceman Spiff said: And then he goes right back at it, trying to buy more titles, Giambi, Teixiera, Randy Johnson, A-Rod and everyone else I can't remember. They broke through in 2009 but I think anyone with an objective look would say that the Yankees haven't had a great return on investment for all the splashes they've made. And the Steinbrenner son seems to be making the same mistakes his dad did, although he doesn't have as much bluster and bravado as the old man. Oh absolutely. There is a story of George walking down the hallway after losing game 7 to Arizona in 2001 saying “things are going to change” and they then went heavy into free agency big names, past their prime stars, and big attractions that never produced. and you see the results the last 20 years. They’ve reworked their farm system a lot the last 5 years or so which has been nice so maybe they’ll break through again. classic underdog story 👀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Hitters are getting fooled all night on both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Pulling Snell so early was a panic move... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I agree. Dumb to take him out, he was mowing people down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Manager just cost his team the World Series. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 This might be a Grady Little in reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Snell put the mask on in the dugout to hide all the F Bombs he was tossing at Cashman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Unbelievable that Snell would get pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I’d demand a trade if I was him. Imagine if Davey did that to Stras during one of his wonder games? I’d flip off Davey through the TV forever if we loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Maybe they can pull it out, but I doubt it. Snell was dealing. He should have got a couple more batters, especially after striking Betts out twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 And thats why you give Mookie Betts $30m / year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Cash should be fired. I’m sorry but that’s a fireable offense to remove your Ace who is dealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, RichmondRedskin88 said: Cash should be fired. I’m sorry but that’s a fireable offense to remove your Ace who is dealing. I agree but that’s what the Rays front office wants. I think it ranks up there as an all time worst managing decision in a WS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said: Cash should be fired. I’m sorry but that’s a fireable offense to remove your Ace who is dealing. Not sure the outcome would have been ultimately been different - at best you get 1.5 more innings out of Snell, then you have to face Dodgers top of the order with your bullpen anyway. Short of the Rays scoring at least one run here it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, DCSaints_fan said: Not sure the outcome would have been ultimately been different - at best you get 1.5 more innings out of Snell, then you have to face Dodgers top of the order with your bullpen anyway. Short of the Rays scoring at least one run here it doesn't matter. maybe, but if Tampa keeps the lead it could change who the Dodgers use and it keeps Tampa hitters from pressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Kudos to the Dodgers for sticking with Dave Roberts .. a more short tempered owner probably would have fired him after the debacle last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Man. Well, we’re no longer the reigning WS champs. gotta say, i feel kinda cheated out of having been able to celebrate our banner raising ceremony. **** you, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Joe Buck is terrible. Talking over the last pitch and calls it “the dodgers have won it all” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Kudos to the Dodgers. Urias was amazing in the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Nothing gives me greater pleasure than applying the asterisk. Enjoy this Los Angeles!***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Stupid Rays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 how quickly until we get 4-5 Dodgers players testing positive for covid after Turner found out mid game? They're lucky they won tonight if a bunch test positive tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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