The airline experience has become miserable

[zoony]

46 minutes ago, Elessar78 said:

TSA Pre-check has been life changing, tbf. Breeze through airports now. Haven't been back to europe since I got it so need to test out that end of the equation. 

 

I was surprised at the lax security in europe.  

[Elessar78]

4 minutes ago, zoony said:

 

I was surprised at the lax security in europe.  

last time I was there I went through security plus extra inspection, then stopped at another checkpoint and interviewed, and interviewed again at the gate. This was all for one leg from Amsterdam to US.

[ixcuincle]

Just came back from Paris on a budget airline (Norweigan)

 

Not that bad

Security was tight at Europe. They made me take off my boot leg.

[zoony]

39 minutes ago, Elessar78 said:

last time I was there I went through security plus extra inspection, then stopped at another checkpoint and interviewed, and interviewed again at the gate. This was all for one leg from Amsterdam to US.

 

I went thru the first metal detector ever made in Croatia. Landed in Munich and had to answer 3 security questions. That was it. 

 

Also, there are certain industries that should be socialized. Transportation is one of them. The free markets suck a wet fart out of my ass when it comes to transportation. 

 

I challenge any ron Paul douchebag disciple to fly United from Albuquerque to Dulles. Then fly any European airlines from any European airport to any European airport. It is the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing one. It is amazing, in Europe passengers are treated like actual human beings. Amazing concept. Their airports aren’t ****heaps either. Imagine that. 

 

free markets suck suck for a lot of things. Anyone throwing out the term “free market solutions” to societal problems is a goddamned dumb****. 

 

Oh, and hope everyone one has a nice weekend. 

[ixcuincle]

They interview you extra and will just pull random people off the train when you're disembarking at the terminal in France. 

1 hour ago, Elessar78 said:

TSA Pre-check has been life changing, tbf. Breeze through airports now. Haven't been back to europe since I got it so need to test out that end of the equation. 

 

I heard about Mobile Passport, has anyone tried it

 

There were no lines at customs last night at 11 pm

[zoony]

15 minutes ago, ixcuincle said:

They interview you extra and will just pull random people off the train when you're disembarking at the terminal in France. 

 

I heard about Mobile Passport, has anyone tried it

 

There were no lines at customs last night at 11 pm

 

A friend of mine has it. You have to do a ****load of international travel to justify it imho

 

i said it earlier in the thread, look into clear. >tsa precheck and if you are creative you can probably expense it

[China]

'You can sit in your seat or you can be left behind': Delta passenger forced to fly in seat stained with feces

 

A diamond medallion Delta passenger had a “dehumanizing” experience when forced to either sit in feces or miss his flight.

 

Matthew Meehan was on the last flight from Atlanta to Miami on Nov. 1, when he realized the plane hadn’t been cleaned properly. But what he thought would be just another stinky flight turned out to be much worse.

 

“I sit in my seat and I immediately smell something, and I thought, ‘Not another flight that smells bad,’” Meehan tells Yahoo Lifestyle. And he wasn’t the only one who noticed. “I realized the person next to me also had their nose covered,” he says. “And then I went to take my charger out, bent down completely to charge my phone and realized it’s not just a smell, it’s actually feces and it’s all over the back of my legs, it’s all over the floor, all over the wall of the plane. And I sat in it,” he recalls.

 

 

He and his seatmate went to the front of the plane to notify the flight crew. As if the excrement weren’t shocking enough, what was even more surprising was the response they got. “The flight crew said, ‘Are you kidding me? We turned that in. I can’t believe they didn’t clean it.’ They knew it was there,” Meehan says.

 

Meehan knows for a fact that Delta planes are required to have a biohazard kit onboard for situations like this. “The Delta representative that spoke with me after the fact told me their protocol is to have a biohazard kit onboard,” he says. “The fact that they either didn’t take it down and offer me something from it to clean myself properly or it was absent completely from the plane broke protocol either way,” Meehan says. “They said they didn’t have one.”

 

Instead of calling the gate and asking for sanitizing products, Meehan alleges the flight attendant gave him two paper towels and a bottle of gin to clean himself with in the lavatory. “She wanted me to clean myself with regular alcohol, drinking alcohol,” he says.

 

At this point, Meehan wasn’t sure where the diarrhea had come from — dog or human; he just wanted it off him. “We didn’t know if it was a person who’d gotten sick, an animal who’d gotten sick. … Originally, the flight crew said that it was a German shepherd. And then the gate agent said in his paperwork that it was an older man who got sick upon landing. And now Delta Corporate is saying that it was a golden retriever puppy,” he says. “But to me, it doesn’t matter. It’s feces; it carries disease any way you look at it.”

 

So, Meehan took the meager cleaning materials into the bathroom hoping that when he came out, his seat would be cleaned. “It got all over my bare ankles,” he says. “They didn’t give me gloves. I had to take my pants off because it’s on the back of my pants, so feces, at this point, is transferring to my hands, with no kind of sanitizing solution to be able to clean anything with, and only one tiny bottle of gin.”

 

When he exited from the bathroom, to his surprise, they were still boarding as if there weren’t excrement coating parts of the plane.

 

The Delta representative also told Meehan that “Delta broke protocol in continuing the boarding process once the biohazard was identified and reported” by him. “Once a passenger brings a contagion or biohazard to staff’s attention, you’re supposed to stop boarding entirely,” Meehan says he was told. “And you’re supposed to deboard if possible so that the contagion or biohazard can be properly cleaned without spreading or contaminating others. But they just kept boarding the plane.”

 

Yahoo Lifestyle asked Delta about its specific protocol for dealing with contagions but has not yet received a response with that information.

 

When Meehan asked the flight crew for an update, he alleges they said, “If they didn’t clean, that’s not our responsibility, someone from the gate needs to take care of that. We are in the middle of an active boarding. We’re busy. If you want, you can get off the plane and talk to somebody.” So he did.

 

The gate agent called a manager, who Meehan described as confrontational, while he was trying to remain calm and “not get kicked off the plane.” “I tell her what happened and she said, ‘If the cleaning crew didn’t do their job, that’s not my problem. What do you want me to do about it?’” Meehan alleges. “Very confrontational, like, so what? So I said, ‘Can we get that cleaned up so I can sit down?’ So she says, ‘Sir, it’s almost time for that plane to leave. You can sit in your seat or you can be left behind.’”

 

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[dfitzo53]

More like Smellta amirite?

[Spaceman Spiff]

Looks like @No Excuses had a ****ty flight from ATL to Miami.

[Rocky21]

7 hours ago, China said:

'You can sit in your seat or you can be left behind': Delta passenger forced to fly in seat stained with feces

 

 

 

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Wow.  Pretty low even for the airline industry. 

[Forehead]

Someone was ****ting out German chocolate icing?

[Riggo#44]

2 hours ago, Rocky21 said:

Wow.  Pretty low even for the airline industry. 

 

Those are at least $600 shoes too.

[China]

5 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

Those are at least $600 shoes too.

 

Not anymore.

[No Excuses]

At some point regulators are going to crack down on the absurdly low standards of our airline industry. 

 

My only concern is that it won’t happen until this race to the bottom eventually leads to a major catastrophe that was wholly preventable. 

[redskinss]

I almost never fly, maybe once every 5 to ten years.

I'm flying tomorrow on spirit airlines and I've heard horror stories so wish me luck.

I'll have my wife next to me so I should be ok on the armrest front anyway. 

They sure do nickel and dime you to death though, fees for getting assigned seats.

That's ridiculous. 

[purbeast]

You haven't flown in years and your first flight back is Spirit?  Why would you do that to yourself?  That's one airline I would never ever fly even if the flight was hundreds of dollars cheaper.

[redskinss]

54 minutes ago, purbeast said:

You haven't flown in years and your first flight back is Spirit?  Why would you do that to yourself?  That's one airline I would never ever fly even if the flight was hundreds of dollars cheaper.

Details please.

It was the only airline with good departure times on both in and return flight. 

I get that the insanely low price probably means they suck but how bad is it.

Edited November 6, 2018 by redskinss

[purbeast]

Just now, redskinss said:

Details please

About...?

[redskinss]

2 minutes ago, purbeast said:

About...?

Like what is so bad about it.

Am I gonna have to sit on a leppers lap or something?

Edited November 6, 2018 by redskinss

[purbeast]

Just now, redskinss said:

Like what is so bad about it.

Just google reviews about Spirit.  There is a reason they are the cheapest.  It also means they are also the most unreliable and miss their target takeoff/landing times pretty much regularly.  They cancel flights without notifying you and you're basically screwed at that point too.  It's easy to find nightmare stories.  That along with my friends experience trying to get home from Vegas while we were all out there a few years ago is reason enough I'd never use em.

[No Excuses]

 

Edited November 17, 2018 by No Excuses

[China]

Man sues British Airways for 'sitting him next to fat passenger'

 

A holidaymaker who is suing British Airways for £10,000 has told a court he was injured after being forced to squeeze into a seat next to an obese man who was “the size of Jonah Lomu”.

 

Stephen Prosser, 51, claims he suffered personal injury and loss of earnings after being made to sit next to the large passenger during a 12-hour flight from Bangkok to Heathrow.

 

On Friday, Pontypridd county court heard the self-employed civil engineer claim cabin crew ignored his complaints that he would be injured if forced to sit next to the “extremely large” passenger, who he described as being 6ft 4in (1.93 metres) and weighing approximately 22 stone (140kg).

 

Prosser, who is 1.60 metres (5ft 3in), said: “He was that large that he had to force his buttocks between the arm rests of the seats.

 

“He sat with his knees wedged against the seat in front and the rest of his body was overspilling into my seat by some inches.

 

“I was immediately aware that this was going to be problematic for me and I could feel the weight of his pure bulk putting lateral pressure on my upper body. This forced me into a position of unnatural posture.

 

“Due to the size of him when he placed his arm down at times it would rest on my armrest, and he would accidentally turn the volume of my audio up to an extremely loud volume each time.”

 

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[China]

Journalist claims 'women-only' plane sections could combat midair assault

 

One female journalist has declared that “women-only seating sections on planes” is the way to a safer future in the high skies, avowing that the armrest in commercial passenger seating is a “gender political issue” in the wake of the #MeToo movement.

 

Last month, columnist Kate Whitehead penned a piece for the South China Morning Post titled "Manspreading on a plane: In the age of #MeToo, even the armrest is a gender politics issue." Although the story has since been criticized by commenters, she is factually correct in her assertion that sexual assault is indeed on the rise in the high skies.

 

“I dream of a future in which there are women-only seating sections on planes. Most women intuitively understand that the armrest is “neutral territory” and leave it as a slim buffer between them and their neighbor,” Whitehead writes. “I’d be prepared to campaign vocally for “pink rows”, but I suspect airlines wouldn’t be in favor because that would mean other rows full only of men – and that wouldn’t work.”

 

“Men – and airlines – depend on encroachment onto women’s seats for comfortable travel,” she continues. “I hope that in the wake of the #MeToo movement, people will come to realise that the airline armrest is a gender political issue. The first airline to establish “pink rows” will have my [business.]”

 

“Nine times out of 10 – based on my extensive experience flying “cattle class” – if a man is seated beside a woman he will claim the armrest,” Whitehead claims. “With the average seat width being 17.2 inches, this means you have effectively lost about 12 per cent. If you are unfortunate enough to be in the middle of a row and have a man on either side, you have lost nearly a quarter of your seat. And yet you are paying the same price as those space-invading men.”

 

For context, Whitehead’s call for gender-specified seating on airplanes is not entirely original. Air India, India’s national carrier, debuted women-only rows on planes in 2017, following two reported incidents of assault, according to the New Zealand Herald. Likewise, Vistara, another Indian carrier, rolled out a "Woman Flyer" service, which gave preferred seating to women traveling alone.

 

Commenters on Whitehead’s story, meanwhile, were less than supportive of her pitch.

 

“Grow up ladies, the world don't revolve around you,” one critic clapped.

 

“How ridiculous is this! Next it's women only planes, then pilots and cabin crew,” another agreed.

 

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[Riggo#44]

So what about that 300-lb titanic landmass I had to sit next to? She took the armrest! #MeToo

[The Sisko]

On 10/19/2018 at 2:20 PM, Elessar78 said:

last time I was there I went through security plus extra inspection, then stopped at another checkpoint and interviewed, and interviewed again at the gate. This was all for one leg from Amsterdam to US.

Same here the last time I flew through Degaulle. 

 

16 hours ago, Riggo#44 said:

So what about that 300-lb titanic landmass I had to sit next to? She took the armrest! #MeToo

😂😂😂

 

Like most of you, I’ve gotten to the point where I almost hate flying. The last flight I took was to Orlando on a newer plane, a 757 I think. I was shocked at how little space there is. Even the freaking bathroom is tiny. If you’re a big person, you’re better off risking the kidney stone. It’ll be less painful than trying to relieve yourself in there.