BatteredFanSyndrome Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 It’s not new, but the whole patriot, patriot, patriot schtick with these morons is grating my nerves more by the hour. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 The Pro-Trump Activists Who Helped Plan The Insurrection Feel Betrayed By The President On the website that was the epicenter of plans for the violent insurrection at the US Capitol Wednesday, some of President Donald Trump’s most loyal followers, who had for months shamed, silenced, and banned anyone who criticized the president, grappled with a new feeling after the riot ended: betrayal. For months, the forum TheDonald has been a gathering place for people planning to try to overturn Trump’s election defeat. But when its users actually broke into the Capitol, as they had promised to do for months, the site tried to rapidly change course, saying it would “follow President Trump’s lead” and would not allow “organizing, or calling directly for, violence of any kind.” The reversal, which moderators hinted was made under pressure from the site’s hosts, left some Trump loyalists in disbelief that they had done anything wrong: They were, they said, only following the president’s orders. “I don’t understand the thinking,” said one popular post on the forum. “Trump told us to march down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol. We listened to the president. They should be thanking us.” "For weeks people were saying how ready they were to fight. The moment it happens everyone starts pearl clutching," read another popular post. The turmoil at the organizing hub of the pro-Trump internet mirrored many users’ feelings toward the president — who, after refusing for hours to call for the riots at the Capitol to end, eventually recorded a video telling rioters that they were “very special” but should “go home.” TheDonald has built a rabid, insular culture in large part by silencing anyone who expressed negative feelings about the president — or, in recent months, anyone who doubted the fact that he would be inaugurated as president on Jan. 20. But in the wake of the insurrection at the Capitol, for the first time since the election, TheDonald was inundated with doom — and anger at a president who many users believed had abandoned them in the middle of a battle that he himself had ordered them to fight. One post, with some 250 upvotes, read: “He calls people to descend on DC for what, 9 hours, then instructs them to go home? People have lost time, money, family, potentially careers and even their lives over this … and a ‘Thanks for coming, go home now’ is what people are instructed to do?” “Exactly. Trump betrayed us,” a popular reply said. “He should have asked us to occupy the city. Unless they got him, and it’s not really him speaking.” Click on the link for the full article 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheGreatBuzz Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: It’s not new, but the whole patriot, patriot, patriot schtick with these morons is grating my nerves more by the hour. Even more infuriating is knowing that the majority of these people have never spilled a drop of sweat or blood for their country. They are keyboard warriors and LARPers who secretly wish at night that they were brave enough to actually be a patriot. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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China Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Click for the full story. Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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China Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Not that you had any doubt, but here the data's been analyzed: The Police’s Tepid Response To The Capitol Breach Wasn’t An Aberration As images from Wednesday’s riot by pro-Trump extremists at the U.S. Capitol filled our TV screens and social media feeds, one thing was notably absent: the kind of confrontation between police and protesters that we saw during the Black Lives Matter protests last summer. Even though the Capitol mob was far more violent — and seditious — than the largely peaceful BLM demonstrators, police responded far less aggressively toward them than toward BLM protesters across the country. Researchers who track this sort of thing for a living say that fits a pattern. Instead of National Guard troops being posted en masse around landmarks before a protest even began, we saw the Defense Department initially deny a request to send in troops — and that was after the Capitol had been breached. Instead of peaceful protesters being doused in tear gas, we saw a mob posing for selfies with police and being allowed to wander the corridors of power like they couldn’t decide whether they were invading the Capitol or touring it. Instead of President Trump calling these violent supporters “thugs,” as he called racial justice protesters, and advocating for more violent police crackdowns, we saw him remind his followers that they were loved before asking them nicely to go home. “It feels really unbelievable,” said Roudabeh Kishi, director of research and innovation with the nonprofit Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project. But, she said, it’s also totally unsurprising. That’s because the discrepancies we saw Wednesday are just another example of a trend Kishi’s team has been tracking for months as they collect data on protester and law enforcement interactions across America. “We see a different response to the right wing,” she said. While protesters themselves have long perceived that police tend to crack down on left-wing protesters and align with those on the right wing, there hasn’t really been data to demonstrate that effect before, said Ed Maguire, a professor of criminology and criminal justice at Arizona State University and an expert on police and protester interactions. But in 2020, Kishi’s ACLED — a data-reporting project that began documenting armed conflicts and protests in African nations — extended its work into the United States. Using information gathered from local media, NGOs, individual journalists and partner organizations, ACLED researchers have catalogued months of detailed information about protests, including when clashes with law enforcement have happened and the type of force used by police. “We don’t necessarily have information on the number of Black vs. white protesters … but we do have a larger view,” Kishi said. “How is law enforcement responding to demonstrations associated with the Black Lives Matter movement versus demonstrations by the right wing … in support of [a] president that may or may not involve organized armed illegal groups?” What they have found is striking. Between May 1 and November 28, 2020, authorities were more than twice as likely to attempt to break up and disperse a left-wing protest1 than a right-wing2 one. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 You mean to tell me Officer Friendly is on the same side as the fascist thugs? Why, I’m shocked!😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fresh8686 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 When a trump supporter tries to educate other trump supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fresh8686 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I wonder if these cops feel any different about posing with insurrectionists when one of them might have murdered one of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fresh8686 said: I wonder if these cops feel any different about posing with insurrectionists when one of them might have murdered one of their own. I mean it's not like it's the first time.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Llevron Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 That’s sad. I hope it opens their eyes. But I’m not naïve enough to expect it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Sinister Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Get your affairs in order, indeed... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Sinister Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, Llevron said: That’s sad. I hope it opens their eyes. But I’m not naïve enough to expect it. Same 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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