NYP: Troubling details emerge about Toronto attack suspect’s private life (Incel Thread)

[bearrock]

47 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

The ironic thing is most people could never get with who they probably fantasize as the "ideal partner" in their head. 

I'm gonna say on the record in case my wife ever looks up my posting history on ES that I vehemently disagree with this statement as it is applied to me.  I love you honey!

[TD_washingtonredskins]

On 7/25/2018 at 2:54 PM, Mr. Sinister said:

 

Can't have Madison, who works at a firm downtown DC and has a studio apt in Arlington. Bessie is your wheelhouse (for now).

 

Maddie is so stuck up anyway....

[Mr. Sinister]

5 minutes ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

 

Maddie is so stuck up anyway....

 

But if I take wrist steroids she'll definitely want to destroy my schlong.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

1 minute ago, Mr. Sinister said:

 

But if I take wrist steroids she'll definitely want to destroy my schlong.

 

Did you see her eyes light up when we were watching her at that happy hour when Trey reached for the check with those jacked wrists?

[Destino]

On 7/25/2018 at 5:44 PM, NoCalMike said:

The ironic thing is most people could never get with who they probably fantasize as the "ideal partner" in their head. 

It's ridiculous that most people imagine themselves capable of identifying an "ideal partner" based on attractiveness and a few scattered facts they might have picked up. 

[PleaseBlitz]

1 minute ago, Destino said:

It's ridiculous that most people imagine themselves capable of identifying an "ideal partner" based on attractiveness and a few scattered facts they might have picked up. 

 

I imagine that incels watch a tremendous amount of porn, so much that it has warped their perception of reality.  

[TD_washingtonredskins]

3 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

I imagine that incels watch a tremendous amount of porn, so much that it has warped their perception of reality.  

 

To be serious for a second, it goes far deeper (hahah) than porn. 

 

If you are already a little detached from reality and sit down to watch almost anything on TV, you're often going to see a very attractive woman married to or interested in a far less attractive man. Even things as innocent as those types of sit-coms paint an unrealistic picture. Again, most of us can take it for what it is (Hollywood) but people who buy into this Incel thing, probably aren't good at separated reality from myth. 

[zoony]

22 minutes ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

 

To be serious for a second, it goes far deeper (hahah) than porn. 

 

If you are already a little detached from reality and sit down to watch almost anything on TV, you're often going to see a very attractive woman married to or interested in a far less attractive man. Even things as innocent as those types of sit-coms paint an unrealistic picture. Again, most of us can take it for what it is (Hollywood) but people who buy into this Incel thing, probably aren't good at separated reality from myth. 

 

You would think that might clue these dip****s on that women dont really care about looks.  Instead they are doing wrist exercises?  

 

 

[TD_washingtonredskins]

7 minutes ago, zoony said:

 

You would think that might clue these dip****s on that women dont really care about looks.  Instead they are doing wrist exercises?  

 

 

 

Come on - look at those masculine wrists. 

 

[PleaseBlitz]

Ross definitely stretches his penis.

 

[zoony]

To be clear, i would stretch mine if i could.  However it seems to be the same size despite a lifetime of repeated pulling

[Destino]

4 hours ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

If you are already a little detached from reality and sit down to watch almost anything on TV, you're often going to see a very attractive woman married to or interested in a far less attractive man. Even things as innocent as those types of sit-coms paint an unrealistic picture. Again, most of us can take it for what it is (Hollywood) but people who buy into this Incel thing, probably aren't good at separated reality from myth. 

I've seen this argument a lot, but I have to say, in real life couples aren't matched on looks.  People meet doing things that interest them often, and that really narrows the field.  Mountain climbers and hikers meet out in places I'll never see personally because I can't stand either of those activities, for example.  Even if they don't meet that way they often stay with people that share interests more than people that they just think look good. 

 

There's also another thing that creates mismatched attractiveness.  Young people read no further, for this will bring you no joy.  There is nothing about marriage and long term relationships that promises both of you will age equally well.  There are a lot of people that both looked great in their early 20s that do not look equally great at 40.  Hair is lost, weight is gained, and effort put into looking your best waxes and wanes. 

 

What TV could do better is not always making 90% of women in every role so damn young.  Old men are everywhere, they're even starring in action movies, but old women seem to require parts suitable for old women.  Parts that get a lot less screen time or are a lot less common.  Women age, and they don't stop being valuable when they do. 

[TD_washingtonredskins]

4 minutes ago, Destino said:

I've seen this argument a lot, but I have to say, in real life couples aren't matched on looks.  People meet doing things that interest them often, and that really narrows the field.  Mountain climbers and hikers meet out in places I'll never see personally because I can't stand either of those activities, for example.  Even if they don't meet that way they often stay with people that share interests more than people that they just think look good. 

 

There's also another thing that creates mismatched attractiveness.  Young people read no further, for this will bring you now joy.  There is nothing about marriage and long term relationships that promises both of you will age equally well.  There are a lot of people that both looked great in their early 20s that do not look equally great at 40.  Hair is lost, weight is gained, and effort put into looking your best waxes and wanes. 

 

What TV could do better is not always making the women young.  Old men are everywhere, they're even starring in action movies, but old women seem to require parts suitable for old women.  Parts that get a lot less screen time or are a lot less common.  Women age, and they don't stop being valuable when they do. 

 

No no - I don't BLAME TV at all for this. You and I are able to understand that actors and actresses who have million-dollar jobs usually come in certain packages. TV shows are a representation and nothing more. 

 

I'm saying that someone who's detached from reality might think it's every man's birthright to pick a pretty, supportive, witty wife from the pile because that's what they see more often than not. I'm guessing most of these guys aren't attending dinner parties with married friends to see what life really looks like. 

[PleaseBlitz]

I think people end up marrying someone +/- 2 on the classic 10 point scale for physical appearance.  

[TD_washingtonredskins]

12 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

I think people end up marrying someone +/- 2 on the classic 10 point scale for physical appearance.  

 

Yes, I forgot to address that part of it. Of course, more in common is required for people to meet or fall in love, but people do generally stay in their relative wheelhouse when it comes to settling down. It's not too often I see a completely mismatched couple. 

[PleaseBlitz]

Just now, TD_washingtonredskins said:

 

Yes, I forgot to address that part of it. Of course, more in common is required for people to meet or fall in love, but people do generally stay in their relative wheelhouse when it comes to settling down. It's not too often I see a completely mismatched couple. 

 

And when you do see a mismatched couple, it's probably money.  

[TradeTheBeal!]

20 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

I think people end up marrying someone +/- 2 on the classic 10 point scale for physical appearance.  

 

Its true.  I’ve been getting along quite nicely in that 5-9 range for some time now.

[purbeast]

2 hours ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

 

To be serious for a second, it goes far deeper (hahah) than porn. 

 

If you are already a little detached from reality and sit down to watch almost anything on TV, you're often going to see a very attractive woman married to or interested in a far less attractive man. Even things as innocent as those types of sit-coms paint an unrealistic picture. Again, most of us can take it for what it is (Hollywood) but people who buy into this Incel thing, probably aren't good at separated reality from myth. 

I don't know if you all have ever watched any novelas on the spanish channels, but my wife is Nicaraguan and watches them daily, and holy **** the women on that **** are all ****ing perfect 10's with guys who are fat slobs and like 20 years older than they are. 

[Springfield]

They just gotta be more Chad

[Mr. Sinister]

Just in case I wasn't clear, when I made my Madison/Bessie argument, I did it knowing full well that Madison's in the mind of someone like an incel are impossible to get, which leads to dumb stuff like the wrist, jaw or whatever the hell else they do.

 

The reality is that yes, looks don't matter... As much as they (people like incels) think they do. But they matter. A Madison could point her finger and get  the type of cat (on the surface) that would make dude's like that turtle up. But the fact remains, be decent looking, work out, dress fresh/use good cologne or spray, have a good job, and win with your personality, and you can point your finger and get Madison, Arielle,  Bria, etc, because it can be difficult for women like that to hold a cat down, because they either get Don Juan, dude's that are too terrified to talk to them, or they are insane . Women gravitate towards cats that know how to not own the room (your pull would be gravitational, but it is not needed to get the results you want) but own the shoes they're standing in. 

 

Not only do these guys look like a hot mess. They have no life, no aspirations, and have walled themselves off from the natural progression of male-female/overall human interaction that starts in adolescence. It's why they fail.

 

Just didn't want to make it seem like I was saying normal guys have no chance. If you're willing to work hard enough   in several areas ,  you have a shot. And even if you fail to attract the upper echelon of sexy, the next rung down, and the one after that, is still a very good place to be. 

 

Incel's and the like have no shot. None whatsoever. And I agree about the fat slob guy in the movies getting the runway fashion model not being a good look, for people who take that stuff seriously.

 

Money of course can change all of that, if one is willing to accept that they want nothing to do with you beyond that (which many do).

[Zguy28]

15 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

And when you do see a mismatched couple, it's probably money.  

Not always though. I way outkicked my coverage (think somewhere between Natalie Wood and Angie Harmon) and at the time she was in a big university with well to do parents and I was making $9 hour and lived with my folks. It helped I guess that it was a blind date set up by mutual friends and I didn't pretend to be something I wasn't.

[Fresh8686]

Just as important if not more than how you look is how it feels to be around you. That’s what a lot of these incels don’t get. Be a man who can create great experiences and who doesn’t feel so ****ing weird or tiring to be around and you’ll do well. 

 

Even the hottest guy (or girl) is just a piece of candy to move on from after the sugar high fades if the feel of being around them doesn’t offer much beyond it. 

 

Do your best to see and connect with the woman in front of you, practice handling sexual tension in healthy ways, and build great and substantive experiences with people, while not acting like a ****ing weirdo. 

[Bang]

These incels.. losers. there's no other word. Just pathetic. It's not about looks, it's about confidence at first and and being yourself the rest of the way. If you have a sense of humor like me, great,, use it. If you don't, there is something else about you. Destino mentioned that most mates find each other in common interests.. and this is very true.. if dating is a problem, then you have to go looking in similar places where you WILL be interesting to someone, and they will be interesting to you. 

In almost anything new (such as meeting women), you just have to overcome the first few minutes of apprehension and don't let failure crush you. Women aren't some magical creature filled with confidence either.. they are just as nervous about meeting new people, too.

 

I am nowhere near the best looking guy in the room.
My sense of humor has always served me incredibly well. As a result, people who know me for a long time are relatively surprised that i manage to outkick my coverage with most women i have dated, and it's because i can make people laugh and it's relatively effortless for me.

Laughter relaxes people, lets them see you, and you can relax and be you. Cuts down on pretentious bull****. So I am lucky in this regard.

It's weird though because my wife and me would seem to be polar opposites. (She is much better looking than me. She looks about 20 years younger than she is. People think I dumped my ex and grabbed a trophy because of how she looks. The opposite is true, my ex dumped me and left me and our 2 yr old son and ran off. I met my wife a few years later. We have a few common interests, but not many. She loves me purely for my heart, and I for hers.  She's amazing. It took me a while to get used to this idea.)

 

this "problem' these guys have..  i really don't understand it. Unfortunately, it's pretty obvious that they are so wrapped up in it that they more than likely sabotage any chance they may ever have, without even knowing it. I wonder if any of them even try to meet someone.

 

 

~Bang

 

Edited July 31, 2018 by Bang

[Zguy28]

I bet this guy is an incel.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6913505/liam-holmes-punched-woman-faces-gants-hill-pictured-buying-cigarettes/

 

[zoony]

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