Llevron Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 edit: dunno how to post tweets either. I thought it was just copy and paste with an extra space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Llevron said: I dont think thats what he was insinuating. Hes probably like me in that he would like to see some of Trumps voters (fans, sheep, whatever) come to the reality that he is not the God King he and they think he is and that getting an abortion, something they are supposed to abhor, was a 'mistake' and that he live with the negative consequences that he deserves '(n conservative eyes, not mine) for it. Well what you'd actually see if Trump supporters realizing that abortion isn't as bad as they thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Well what you'd actually see if Trump supporters realizing that abortion isn't as bad as they thought. Nah, they'd make an exception and move on, condemning as they went. Abortion is quite possibly THE single most important issue insofar as how we got to this point. If abortion is murder, people who support it are murderers. You can forgive a hell of a lot if you assume the pro-choice candidate on the other side is a murderer. Adultery? Corruption? Lies? Racism? Bad yeah, but at least they aren't a murderer. If people suddenly don't worry about abortion anymore then they don't have that "but the other side murders babies" thing to fall back on as to why they support Rs who are otherwisr terrible people. I will add one brief caveat. The organizing principle of the modern TrumpGOP is "owning the libs." As such, it is possible, but unproven, that the abortion moral point has been replaced by a simpler, less reasonable organizing concept, and to that end, I suppose it is possible that some GOP could become pro-choice to ensure continued support of Trump. That only makes the eventual fall of the cult of personality even more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Well what you'd actually see if Trump supporters realizing that abortion isn't as bad as they thought. Which is what I actually want. If I can get these people on record 8 years ago saying abortion is a sin, now saying its no big deal, and then in about 2 (hopefully) saying its a sin again then I can successfully prove to anyone with even a small amount of intellectual integrity and honesty that its all bull****. Worse case I can use it to either prove they have any honesty/integrity or not. Which is suspect I know the answer to anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Llevron said: edit: dunno how to post tweets either. I thought it was just copy and paste with an extra space. Normally there's a drop-down menu on a tweet right next to the username with an option to copy the link. This board doesn't recognize mobile links from Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 40 minutes ago, Llevron said: Which is what I actually want. If I can get these people on record 8 years ago saying abortion is a sin, now saying its no big deal, and then in about 2 (hopefully) saying its a sin again then I can successfully prove to anyone with even a small amount of intellectual integrity and honesty that its all bull****. The party endorsing a rapist pedophile wasn't enough? There's about 5 billion examples of their hypocrisy and full-of-****ness already. It won't matter. Nothing matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Llevron Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 dude is an animal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 The Presidents personal attorney is headed to jail. Time to re-up an all time classic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Troll level: God. Trump wants no parts of Avenatti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 He wants no part of Mueller. Avenatti is a lot louder but he's minor league. Mueller is the little Yakuza guy from that one episode of the Simpsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Let's not put Avenatti on too high if a pedestal. By all accounts he's a good lawyer and great media guy, but he isn't without some warts. Revel in his troll capabilities responsibly. In any event, Cohen hasn't flipped. They wouldn't be arresting him if he had. That being said, he may be on his last legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 why are Cohen's lawyers dropping him? Saw the evidence and want nothing to do with it? Know his finances and know he can't pay the cost of defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 On 6/13/2018 at 12:50 PM, Elessar78 said: why are Cohen's lawyers dropping him? Showing him what a lawyer should do when he realizes that his client is a piece of human garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twa Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 On 6/13/2018 at 11:43 AM, Llevron said: Which is what I actually want. If I can get these people on record 8 years ago saying abortion is a sin, now saying its no big deal, and then in about 2 (hopefully) saying its a sin again then I can successfully prove to anyone with even a small amount of intellectual integrity and honesty that its all bull****. Worse case I can use it to either prove they have any honesty/integrity or not. Which is suspect I know the answer to anyway. So you want someone persecuted for something you insist is no big deal for personal gain/self gratification while preaching intellectual integrity and honesty ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, twa said: So you want someone persecuted for something you insist is no big deal for personal gain/self gratification while preaching intellectual integrity and honesty ? Outing hypocrites is persecution? But the Christian Right doesn’t really need anymore of it. Everyone with a brain knows that they are the most morally degenerate bunch in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh8686 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, twa said: So you want someone persecuted for something you insist is no big deal for personal gain/self gratification while preaching intellectual integrity and honesty ? That's not even what he said. He was saying THEY would flip and say it's no big deal. The point is, he suspects and justifiably so, that many of your political compatriots are lying hypocrites who push a narrative for tribal reasons, rather than principled ones. Nice try, on the whole twisting his words attempt. You even got the persecution complex buzzword in there. If you'd also thrown a whataboutism or "still better than Hillary" in there we would have had conservative talking points bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, twa said: So you want someone persecuted for something you insist is no big deal for personal gain/self gratification while preaching intellectual integrity and honesty ? You in particular I would love to see flip on your bull****. Fun thing about intellectual honesty is that I can be right AND an asshole at the same time. So no preaching required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Llevron said: You in particular I would love to see flip on your bull****. Fun thing about intellectual honesty is that I can be right AND an asshole at the same time. So no preaching required. So can I, and usually am. 1 hour ago, No Excuses said: Outing hypocrites is persecution? But the Christian Right doesn’t really need anymore of it. Everyone with a brain knows that they are the most morally degenerate bunch in the country. Good thing they go to church then, can you imagine how degenerate they would be left to their own? Certainly kept me from killing a few folk back when I attended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Llevron said: You in particular I would love to see flip on your bull****. Fun thing about intellectual honesty is that I can be right AND an asshole at the same time. So no preaching required. For all of his faults, twa has been unwavering over time on his views toward abortion. On 6/13/2018 at 1:50 PM, Elessar78 said: why are Cohen's lawyers dropping him? Saw the evidence and want nothing to do with it? Know his finances and know he can't pay the cost of defense? First, I'm not sure that his lawyers are dropping him. Reports have been all over the place. I've read that 1) they are "parting ways" 2) he's dropping them, and 3) they are dropping him because of non-payment of fees. One benign explanation I heard for the switch is that he hired this firm because they were equipped for the monumental task of reviewing the thousands of documents seized to determine which they were going to claim as protected by attorney client privilege, and now that that task is done he needs a different type of representation. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dan T. said: For all of his faults, twa has been unwavering over time on his views toward abortion. He's also been unwavering in his falling in line with GOP talking points 100% of the time. Let's see what happens when those two things are at odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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