clskinsfan Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, alwaysaskin said: Fans could run better than fatass Rob or the fumbling bumbling Perine, at this point Jones would be an upgrade over those two Marshall will earn more playing time now and that is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panninho Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Maybe we can talk DeMarco Murray out of retirement? At this point I would also give Alfred Morris a call, he is definitely better than everyone we have right now as first/second down RB. But I guess we will just stick to Kelley and Perine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Panninho said: Maybe we can talk DeMarco Murray out of retirement? At this point I would also give Alfred Morris a call, he is definitely better than everyone we have right now as first/second down RB. But I guess we will just stick to Kelley and Perine... The idea of pinning our hopes for a decent running game on Kelley and Perine is depressing as hell. However I would like to see more of Marshall and Bibbs. I am really not sure about them. Who is on the street right now that we can bring in? I like Morris. Actually in a few games I saw him with the Girls, he ran very well, but then they went away from him a few times when he was pounding it, and that was a head scratcher. I think it is worth a shot. Forget Peterson and Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panninho Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 hour ago, skinsmania123 said: The idea of pinning our hopes for a decent running game on Kelley and Perine is depressing as hell. However I would like to see more of Marshall and Bibbs. I am really not sure about them. Who is on the street right now that we can bring in? I like Morris. Actually in a few games I saw him with the Girls, he ran very well, but then they went away from him a few times when he was pounding it, and that was a head scratcher. I think it is worth a shot. Forget Peterson and Murray. I generally agree about Marshall and Bibbs. However, I think that they are rather competing for the job behind Thompson as third down backs. I think we will carry 4 RBs on the roster. If only for the reason that Thompson is not back to 100% and also very injury prone. So one of them will probably make it anyway. I just don't like the idea of basically giving out guaranteed roster spots to Perine and Kelley because we don't have anyone else. At least bring someone in and let them earn the roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Panninho said: I generally agree about Marshall and Bibbs. However, I think that they are rather competing for the job behind Thompson as third down backs. I think we will carry 4 RBs on the roster. If only for the reason that Thompson is not back to 100% and also very injury prone. So one of them will probably make it anyway. I just don't like the idea of basically giving out guaranteed roster spots to Perine and Kelley because we don't have anyone else. At least bring someone in and let them earn the roster spot. Those are all valid points. I hate the mentality of this FO. Yes, bring someone in. I wish they would bring Morris in. We have nothing to lose by giving him a shot. He is certainly better then Kelley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannix Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Some things I’ve read indicate that Mike Gillislee in New England will be available. I think he would be worth a 6 or 7 round pick- Ameer Abdullah and Charcandrick West likely will be released- Not sure I would give up draft capital but I think they would be an upgrade if you could claim them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 3 hours ago, skinsmania123 said: Those are all valid points. I hate the mentality of this FO. Yes, bring someone in. I wish they would bring Morris in. We have nothing to lose by giving him a shot. He is certainly better then Kelley. really? I think in the past two years they've been pretty close to equal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 hour ago, carex said: really? I think in the past two years they've been pretty close to equal Well not really if we compare 2017. Morris averaged 4.8 per carry and Kelley 3.1. And while there is not a big enough sample size for Kelley he has never impressed me. But I will concede that the Cowboys have a better run block O line then we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, skinsmania123 said: Well not really if we compare 2017. Morris averaged 4.8 per carry and Kelley 3.1. And while there is not a big enough sample size for Kelley he has never impressed me. But I will concede that the Cowboys have a better run block O line then we do. Kelley only played seven games last year due to injury so I think comparing 2017 doesn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, carex said: Kelley only played seven games last year due to injury so I think comparing 2017 doesn't work I see where you are going with this but there is not enough of a sample size of Kelley to say they are comparable but you sure are trying. Morris has proven himself. And the statistics game, as we know, from numerous discussions on this board can be fairly misleading. But when it comes to situational football, Kelley did not impress me. He did not come through with tough yards, those third downs when we needed him to. That has been constant for the Skins. And if he was that great we would all be raving about him, wouldn't we? Well he certainly will get his chance - "Fit Rob" - yup let's see it. Morris got tough yards for us and the Girls last year when Zeke was out but they stupidly went away from him in some of those games which was a ridiculous. He was really running well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I'd be calling Alf today if I was the FO. He really is better than Kelly and Perine, and he also knows the system. He could jump right in and there would be no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 based on the average running back and the fact that each year with us he had steadily diminishing returns I think Alfred Morris is done. Kelley averaged almost four yards a carry his rookie year, I think he can get back to that. We're fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, carex said: based on the average running back and the fact that each year with us he had steadily diminishing returns I think Alfred Morris is done. Kelley averaged almost four yards a carry his rookie year, I think he can get back to that. We're fine Nah. He's better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 We should definitely call Alf. He was pretty bad fit a couple years ago, but I'm sure he's better now since he was able to produce behind the cowboys line I wonder what Stephen Davis is up to now. He was good a while back too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 That bad fit was still better than Kelly at his best. I guess that makes Kelly a worse fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Alfred Morris is a no for me. But so are Kelley and Perine. AP on the cheap wouldn’t be a bad look. But I doubt that happens so I think we’re stuck with what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 50 minutes ago, Morneblade said: Nah. He's better we weren't in that great a shape last year and the Cowboys, despite some performances like that, opted not to bring him back 43 minutes ago, Morneblade said: That bad fit was still better than Kelly at his best. I guess that makes Kelly a worse fit. Actually in his last year he averaged 3.7 yds per carry. At his best Kelly got 3.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 People were all excited about Kelley looking better last week and everyone thinking we could trade Perine for something, now all think they're total garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: People were all excited about Kelley looking better last week and everyone thinking we could trade Perine for something, now all think they're total garbage. I don't recall the Kelly talk, but I do recall the Perine trade talk, so you're right about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Malapropismic Depository said: I don't recall the Kelly talk, but I do recall the Perine trade talk, so you're right about that. You haven't heard Gruden talk about him? Or everyone saying how much smaller and faster he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: You haven't heard Gruden talk about him? Or everyone saying how much smaller and faster he is? I heard the Gruden talk, but I thought you meant fans on the board, regarding Kelly. I must have missed that. But that is funny how the tune changed on Perine, before and after Guice's injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: I heard the Gruden talk, but I thought you meant fans on the board, regarding Kelly. I must have missed that. But that is funny how the tune changed on Perine, before and after Guice's injury Players have been talking about Kelley too. As have the reporters at camp. Point is he was looking good until Guise went down also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Malapropismic Depository said: I heard the Gruden talk, but I thought you meant fans on the board, regarding Kelly. I must have missed that. But that is funny how the tune changed on Perine, before and after Guice's injury The tune hasn't changed about Perine. The reason people want to trade him is because they think he's garbage lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Ask yourselves, do you want to go into next season with all your rushing hopes on a 2nd year RB whose coming off an ACL? The Guice injury not only hurts because we don't have him this year but it creates uncertainty for upcoming years. For 3 years now our offense seems to roll into camp with all of our chips placed on players who were hurt the previous season, it's exhausting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, NickyJ said: The tune hasn't changed about Perine. The reason people want to trade him is because they think he's garbage lol How can a person believe he's garbage, if they believe another NFL team, likely with better FO management, would be willing to make a sacrifice to get him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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