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RandyHolt

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Torian Gray has left for Florida. I would like to see the exodus of our staff continue. It has a good a chance as anything to either help us tank, or to force Bruce out. 

 

Who is next?  I hope Manusky bolts, first of all for his own good but also to witness the parade of flunkies from Tampa over the past decade parade into Redskins park.  Bruce would be asking Kaczor soon than later for names.

 

I wonder if Callahan is milling around to be our next coach after a nod and wink from Bruce.  Only, Bruce will find someone far more inept.

 

Where is Bruce, anyways?

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XtremeFan55

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24 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

Torian Gray has left for Florida. I would like to see the exodus of our staff continue. It has a good a chance as anything to either help us tank, or to force Bruce out. 

 

Who is next?  I hope Manusky bolts, first of all for his own good but also to witness the parade of flunkies from Tampa over the past decade parade into Redskins park.  Bruce would be asking Kaczor soon than later for names.

 

I wonder if Callahan is milling around to be our next coach after a nod and wink from Bruce.  Only, Bruce will find someone far more inept.

 

Where is Bruce, anyways?

 

Bruce isn’t at Redskins Park.

 

Drove by around 5:00pm and didn’t see one car in the parking lot which is very unusual.

 

there were light on in back of building though....

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54 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

 

I wonder if Callahan is milling around to be our next coach after a nod and wink from Bruce. 

What's his face that just got the HC gig in Cinci is trying to get Callahan to join him there as Callahan was his college coach.

 

Also hearing rumblings that Tomsula may just say ****it & retire because his family is down in Florida.

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17 minutes ago, SkinsFTW said:

 

So the lights are on but nobody's home?

 

 

 

 

Maybe a break-in to steal Bruce’s secret plan to restore the Redskins back to glory?

 

Or better yet....to post on the web so everyone can see how bad it really is after seeing the one page plan drawn with crayons.... 

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Dissident2

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This was posted in the coaching thread, but this particular line is more relevant here. From LaConfora's recent article on Snyder trying hard to get Bowles and Williams with ZERO success. 

 

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The presence of Bruce Allen, whose poor record running football operations as team president has become a focus of scorn in the fanbase and derision around the NFL, has been a detriment to landing coaches, though there have been rumblings about his role possibly changing to business-side only at some point.

 

So there's still a chance this clown gets reassigned?

 

I'm actually loving all the ship-jumpers. Hope they're left with no one but youth flag football coaches. #FUFO 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dan-snyders-pursuit-of-todd-bowles-gregg-williams-may-not-bode-well-for-jay-gruden-in-2020/

 

 

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8 hours ago, Dissident2 said:

This was posted in the coaching thread, but this particular line is more relevant here. From LaConfora's recent article on Snyder trying hard to get Bowles and Williams with ZERO success. 

 

 

So there's still a chance this clown gets reassigned?

 

I'm actually loving all the ship-jumpers. Hope they're left with no one but youth flag football coaches. #FUFO 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dan-snyders-pursuit-of-todd-bowles-gregg-williams-may-not-bode-well-for-jay-gruden-in-2020/

 

 

 

The sad part was Laconfora explaining on the radio (he wasn't the first to do this) that top coaches aren't going to come here with Bruce in that building -- leaving the impression that Dan might have a fighting chance if Bruce was gone to land top guys.  If so, he must really really love himself some Bruce Allen or think Bruce has him by the gonads on the stadium.  It fits my theory that candidates think hey its bad enough to deal with Dan but I also got to deal with a power hungry politician who will stab me in the back who will tell me what to do?

 

When I heard Liz Clark's description about from what she heard about the stadium which includes Bruce procrastinated at moving on the land in DC and that's put them in this bad spot -- it almost makes you think that he knows the longer it drags out the more job security the dude has so why not move slow?  But you figure there is some limit to this eventually -- how long can the stadium drag out?  Clark thinks the upshot is no one gives Dan a deal in part because he and his henchman are so loathed in the DMV that its a tough sell for any politician.  

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12 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

The sad part was Laconfora explaining on the radio (he wasn't the first to do this) that top coaches aren't going to come here with Bruce in that building -- leaving the impression that Dan might have a fighting chance if Bruce was gone to land top guys.  If so, he must really really love himself some Bruce Allen or think Bruce has him by the gonads on the stadium. 

 

I will never understand the whole "Bruce has to stay for the stadium" narrative. It makes no sense to me and never has. A guy who is QUANTIFIABLY horrible at his job; a guy the fanbase hates working for a guy who the fanbase and most of the community possibly hates more; a guy with a long-built reputation of being slimy, untrustworthy, vindictive; a guy with, as far as I can tell, zero public defenders willing to publicly align themselves with him or praise him in any capacity (except Snyder, of course) ... and THIS is the guy who's "indisposable" when it comes to getting a stadium deal in place???

 

It's never made any sense at all. Not to mention the fact that - in large part because of what this guy has done and how he's viewed - it can't even be guaranteed that a new stadium would draw in actual money-spending fans (unless they're from other cities/fanbases). 

 

Perhaps there's a "Brokeback Ashburn" kind of thing going on with these two (not that there's anything wrong with that). I can't think of any other possible reason why even an imbecile like Snyder would keep this guy around. 

 

#ToxicTwins

 

 

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2 hours ago, Dissident2 said:

 

 

It's never made any sense at all. Not to mention the fact that - in large part because of what this guy has done and how he's viewed - it can't even be guaranteed that a new stadium would draw in actual money-spending fans (unless they're from other cities/fanbases).

 

 

 

It makes all the sense to me in the world in one way but not in another way.   I work in the political arena.  I can call almost any local official, state or federal official around my area and they'd take my call.  I know a lot of them socially.   And I am not even a lobbyist.  I do direct mail-campaigns.   I've done campaign work relating to stadiums (though minor stuff but enough to get a look at how the sausage is made) and worked in government in my younger years.   It's a ridiculously incestuous and network driven business.  And if you know key players socially it can make all the difference in the world.  And in Bruce's case, his brother was both Governor and US Senator -- his network is likely insane and goes deep.

 

So if Bruce is in a meeting with Dan and talking lets say about the inner politics and players relating to something -- like hey this person is against us but I have a friend who is really close to that dude and I think I can get to him -- it likely comes like a big deal.  When I am pitching clients, its typically a bigger deal to them my network than actually showcasing my work.  

 

So if Bruce is the one guy in that building who has that rolling -- it doesn't seem weird to me that Dan is taken by it and that goes double if the process isn't going smoothly.  I've seen it in my line of work all the time -- the thing that intimidates some about the process is how heavy relationship-networked driven it is.  So when the WP people like Brewer and Clark say Bruce's job security is driven by the stadium -- it makes all the sense in the world to me.  Ditto one thing Clark mentioned which is Bruce is good at trying to assuage people that everything is under control even when it isn't.  So it wouldn't surprise me if Bruce is telling Dan he's got this, just hang with him because this or that needs to unfold. 

 

But, Clark's description of Bruce twiddling his thumbs about getting federal approval to rezone the RFK land and not anticipating Congressional change last year -- shows a similar incompetence with this project as he does running the football team.  And to the point about how they are viewed -- that's the kicker because of the owner and Bruce are considered douchebags and incompetent.  So for a city or state to do a favor for the Redskins its unlikely to be viewed well by whatever community they target.  

 

I said this weeks ago which is they have terrible bad luck to be in the mix of trying to land a stadium deal coupled with a very upset fan base who are openly voicing their angst about the ownership-FO.  So its the worst time to really chase this.  Am guess Bruce fuels Dan into a delusional state that he's gotten it under control but ultimately his time will be up.  

 

If I had to guess this, I'd say Dan doesn't get his #1 destination, DC.  There is too much in the way.  Maryland-National Harbor I think ends up their best shot.   They can leverage the old stadium's lease ending and they can maybe get some corporate financing to help somehow with the land around the Harbor area considering you already got a Casino and restaurants nearby so they can perhaps expand the business area on that front. 

 

 

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RandyHolt

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2 hours ago, Dissident2 said:

 

I will never understand the whole "Bruce has to stay for the stadium" narrative.....

#ToxicTwins

 

 

 

I have a suspicion that Dan thinks Bruce boozing it up schmoozing and making drunken deals with local politicians IS his wheelhouse, and has likely made some progress towards that, if even just in Dan's mind. Dan doesn't want to lose what little leverage he has with anyone at this point, as he is likely getting desperate to find a new home.... besides his yacht.  He is too socially awkward to do it himself.

 

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Sheehan nailed it weeks ago, Bruce will do a presser.  I am guessing it won't be interesting unless Bruce trips on himself with an answer which he is apt to do.

 

Guessing his talking points will be:

He rather not address "rumors" about them looking at coaches but look they are always exploring ways to improve the Redskins

They are very happy with Jay and Manusky

6-3, 6-3, 6-3.  Did I tell you we went 6-3. Injuries, Injuries, Injuries

If fans are discontent, rest assured so are we, we are working tirelessly at Redskins Park to win.  We love the Redskins fans passion!

Deflect attention on himself by constantly referring to Doug

The Redskins make Redskins decisions and its not just about one person including himself.  We all weigh in and it works great

 

On another note, Grant Paulsen said today he heard Bruce is telling people at Redskins Park that the FireBruce crowd aren't actually Redskins fans.  So what is he suggesting Cowboy fans masquerading as Redskins fans with the goal to weaken the Redskins but pushing Bruce out?  Wow, I'll give the dude props about being the master of spin.

 

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