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Sexting is a terrible idea for any public figure.  It's probably a bad idea even if you aren't.  I am kind of curious though as to why we are seeing these pictures at all.  Is this a hack, evidence of harassment shown to force him to stop, or revenge porn?  I ask because posting nude images of someone publicly without consent is a form of violating and humiliating a person that has hurt a lot of people.

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8 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said:
I know a few of you hate this, but this white privilege in a nutshell.

Everything is white privilege.

 

Or it’s could be about power, status, money, and, in some cases, personal enrichment for the people who are doing the covering up. You’ve got cases like Roy Moore, catholic priests, etc but you’ve also got Bill Cosby, countless College athletes, etc.

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18 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Everything is white privilege.

 

Or it’s could be about power, status, money, and, in some cases, personal enrichment for the people who are doing the covering up. You’ve got cases like Roy Moore, catholic priests, etc but you’ve also got Bill Cosby, countless College athletes, etc.

 

Maybe it's more a case of "rich privilege". (And then it's simply a result of the racism "that doesn't exist any more, except against white Christian males", that the vast majority of rich, are white). 

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27 minutes ago, Larry said:

racism "that doesn't exist any more, except against white Christian males"

Likely just a general commentary but just in case my comment to Benning causes anyone to mistake me for someone who thinks like that, nothing could be further from the truth. My comment was based on the percentage of posts and the percentage of topics that he needs to bring up racism and white privilege as well as some pretty far out comments that he's made in a few of those posts.

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Maybe we could see an avalanche of accusations against all sorts of politicians in Washington. Heck, maybe it could actually result in draining the swamp. Some. 

 

(But I'm not holding my breath. History says the most likely result will be "Well, my congressman is different"). 

 

 


 

5 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Likely just a general commentary but just in case my comment to Benning causes anyone to mistake me for someone who thinks like that, nothing could be further from the truth. My comment was based on the percentage of posts and the percentage of topics that he needs to bring up racism and white privilege as well as some pretty far out comments that he's made in a few of those posts.

 

I was not in any way accusing you of thinking like that. It was simply a cheap shot at a right-wing talking point that's obviously untrue. 

 

(And a recognition of your valid point that rich people using power for sexual abuse is not confined to one race). 

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9 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Everything is white privilege.

 

Or it’s could be about power, status, money, and, in some cases, personal enrichment for the people who are doing the covering up. You’ve got cases like Roy Moore, catholic priests, etc but you’ve also got Bill Cosby, countless College athletes, etc.

Can you go back and read my post?

 

Bill Cosby never had the power to send people to prison, say laws are or are not constitutional in a state, or the chance to become a US Senator.

 

Like I said earlier, the state of Alabama basically baby sat this guy so that he doesn't act on his impulses to sexually exploit children. I can't think of any other person that has happened too, and it damn sure hasn't happened to a marginalized person.

 

I don't think you are right wing troll. I think you are delusional if you don't see that.

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1 hour ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

Can you go back and read my post?

Ok. Replies in line.

 

Bill Cosby never had the power to send people to prison, say laws are or are not constitutional in a state, or the chance to become a US Senator.

This is a true statement, fine. It doesn't change the fact that Bill Cosby had a group of people who helped cover up allegations of sexual assault over a period of decades. It also has nothing to do with being white or black.

 

Like I said earlier, the state of Alabama basically baby sat this guy so that he doesn't act on his impulses to sexually exploit children. I can't think of any other person that has happened too, and it damn sure hasn't happened to a marginalized person.

Off the top of my head... Jerry Sandusky, Jimmy Savile, a **** ton of gymnastics coaches, and about a thousand Catholic Priests.

 

I don't think you are right wing troll. I think you are delusional if you don't see that.

And I think what you're saying in this post is very different than what you said originally. Here you're saying that it was a because of his status and power (which is exactly what I said). In the first post, you said it was because he was white.

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1 hour ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

 

 

Like I said earlier, the state of Alabama basically baby sat this guy so that he doesn't act on his impulses to sexually exploit children. I can't think of any other person that has happened too, and it damn sure hasn't happened to a marginalized person.

 

 

Regarding sexual exploitation, cover ups and race, you should read about the Rotherham sex scandal. 

 

Its incredible. 

 

"From the late 1980s until the 2010s, organised child sexual abuse continued almost unchallenged by legal authorities[14]in the northern English town of Rotherham, South Yorkshire"

 

"The failure to address the abuse was attributed to a combination of factors revolving around race, class and gender—contemptuous and sexist attitudes toward the mostly working-class victims; fear that the perpetrators' ethnicity would trigger allegations of racism and damage community relations; the Labour council's reluctance to challenge a Labour-voting ethnic minority; lack of a child-centred focus; a desire to protect the town's reputation; and lack of training and resources.[30][31][14]"

 

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1 hour ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Bill Cosby never had the power to send people to prison, say laws are or are not constitutional in a state, or the chance to become a US Senator.

This is a true statement, fine. It doesn't change the fact that Bill Cosby had a group of people who helped cover up allegations of sexual assault over a period of decades. It also has nothing to do with being white or black.

No breh. We not doing this. Bill Cosby is a monster but he didn't have taxpayer dollars making sure he couldn't act out on his impulses to sexually violate children. You read my post and missed the point. 

 

1 hour ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Like I said earlier, the state of Alabama basically baby sat this guy so that he doesn't act on his impulses to sexually exploit children. I can't think of any other person that has happened too, and it damn sure hasn't happened to a marginalized person.

Off the top of my head... Jerry Sandusky, Jimmy Savile, a **** ton of gymnastics coaches, and about a thousand Catholic Priests.

None of these people were marginalized persons in society.

 

And none of them were helped by a government.

 

1 hour ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

I don't think you are right wing troll. I think you are delusional if you don't see that.

And I think what you're saying in this post is very different than what you said originally. Here you're saying that it was a because of his status and power (which is exactly what I said). In the first post, you said it was because he was white.

I said he is an example of white privilege because the government spent money enabling him and let him rise to positions of power to influence law and governance.

 

Get your head out the sand.

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31 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

No breh. We not doing this.

Bill Cosby is a monster but he didn't have taxpayer dollars making sure he couldn't act out on his impulses to sexually violate children. You read my post and missed the point. 

No ****. If all you had said was that it was about being a political figure in a position of power, I wouldn't have brought up Bill Cosby... But since you're first sentence was "this is white privilege in a nutshell", a Bill Cosby comparison is relevant.

 

None of these people were marginalized persons in society.

That's my point.

 

And none of them were helped by a government.

No. They were helped by other institutions. Moore, isn't really being helped by the government so much as his political party but I digress.

 

I said he is an example of white privilege because the government spent money enabling him and let him rise to positions of power to influence law and governance.

Well look dude, we've had this conversation before... you think everything is white privilege and racism. Kirk Cousins has some issues but when somebody says that every bad thing that happens to the Redskins is Kirk's fault, it gets old pretty fast. The democratic party has some issues but when every bad thing becomes "Thanks Obama!!", you stop taking that person's opinion seriously.

 

Get your head out the sand.

That's not an issue for me. I see things pretty well for what they are I think. Yes, racism exists. Yes, white privilege exists. I'm not denying those things. The reality is that your views are extreme. So, just because I don't share your skewed perspective, don't pretend like I'm ignoring racism. 

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A single label like "white privilege" doesn't really cover it. 

 

Is Clarence Thomas an example of white privilege?  He's on the highest court in the land despite detailed accusations made against him.  Bob Menendez just proved impossible to convict, in part, because our system has decided that corruption must be so narrowly defined that prosecution is all but impossible.  Our system defends those that wield it's power from lower levels as well.  Positions like cops, prosecutors, prison guards,and judges. We don't even have a term for how our system is hard wired to favor the wealthy and powerful, and yet this happens in plain sight all the time. 

 

In a situation concerning a man propositioning teenage girls in the late 70's early 80's you also have to look at male privilege and sexist attitudes.  Part of what makes up rape culture.  Just look at the attitudes and themes from movies around that time, or in this instance much later:  

Remember that our society only came to the realization that underage prostitutes do not exist.  They are in fact, victims... and that's still an ongoing fight and certainly not universally accepted.  Girls were not treated like victims if they were thought of as sluts.  If you think that a teenage girl wouldn't have been labeled as such for being in a relationship with an older man, especially a respected district attorney, I think you're underestimating just how bad sexist attitudes were (and in some cases continue to be).  The poor upstanding man was seduced. 

 

This is not to say that white privilege didn't play a role in this.  It certainly did.  I wonder how many district attorneys were black in 1979, for example.  Anyone think the reaction would have been the same if a grown black man had been discovered propositioning white teenage girls?  No.  I could go on, race and racism is insidious and influences life in the US in so many ways. 

 

Point is, there is more going on than race in this shameful Moore mess. 

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On 11/23/2017 at 8:41 AM, BenningRoadSkin said:

I can't think of any other person that has happened too, and it damn sure hasn't happened to a marginalized person.

So it happened to one person

And he happens to be white

So

White privilege!!!!!!!!!

 

:ols:

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