2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

[Why am I Mr. Pink?]

Weird ... how none of us are even mentioning DJ Moore. Local kid, balled out for the Terps, consensus first WR off the board and crickets from the Terps faithful. 

[bakedtater1]

7 minutes ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said:

Weird ... how none of us are even mentioning DJ Moore. Local kid, balled out for the Terps, consensus first WR off the board and crickets from the Terps faithful. 

I wouldn't mind Moore..just thinking with the addition of Richardson the skins wouldn't be thinking wr at 13..

[mistertim]

5 minutes ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said:

Weird ... how none of us are even mentioning DJ Moore. Local kid, balled out for the Terps, consensus first WR off the board and crickets from the Terps faithful. 

 

I like Moore but do we really want to go WR with the 13th overall pick? If we want a WR I'd rather take one a bit later. Anthony Miller actually reminds me a lot of Moore and is probably closer to a 3rd rounder but could go a bit higher. Around the same size, fast, great route runner, circus catch hands, dangerous in space.

 

[Why am I Mr. Pink?]

I agree with everything you two above me said. 

 

Just weird that every single skins fan (including me) is finding plausible reasons to not want him when you would think the homerism in us would be finding and creating narratives to justify him at 13. I think its bc he went to MD and we downgrade our own school bc its not a major program. Id guess if Moore went to Bama or a blue chip school, we would be talking about him more. 

 

Im sure we will all trade for him in Madden 19 though lol. 

 

Some of us are doing gymnastics to justify Guice at 13 or trade down and take Guice. Of course stud RB is a need vs another WR. 

[HardcoreZorn]

I believe one of two scenarios will play out.

 

1. Stand pat at 13 if an elite talent falls. No idea who exactly we rate as an elite talent, but talking about Roquan, James, Fitz, Nelson, Ward, maybe a pass rusher like Landry/Davenport? In the second, take highest rated RB available.

 

2. Trade back in the first and then back up into the late first early second area using some future picks. Say trade back to the latter part of the first round and get another 2nd round pick. Trade 44, our 4th and future second to move up. So you have 3 picks in the 20-55 range lets say. Come out of the first 3 picks with Hernandez/Guice/Settle or Phillips. Or Guice/Price/Josh Jackson. Or Payne/Chubb/Ragnow. Try and grab 3 impact players at the 4 perceived biggest areas of need.

 

A little vague, but I really think both of those options are in play. Scenario 1 is a longer term outlook. Scenario 2 helps us in the near term and would be more fitting for trading for Alex. I don't think you can go wrong with either approach though.

[fordranger76]

27 minutes ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said:

Weird ... how none of us are even mentioning DJ Moore. Local kid, balled out for the Terps, consensus first WR off the board and crickets from the Terps faithful. 

My favorite player in the draft. I just don't think we even sniff at him. Would love to be wrong.

[JamesMadisonSkins]

5 minutes ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said:

I think its bc he went to MD and we downgrade our own school bc its not a major program. Id guess if Moore went to Bama or a blue chip school, we would be talking about him more. 

Hmm. Define "our own school" ... I can't speak for everyone on here, but I have 0 rooting interest and follow Maryland about as much as I follow Florida International. I have to imagine that's true for a lot of people here. Maybe you can call him a local kid, but again, just being from Northern VA doesn't mean I'm pressed over UMD and their players

Here's my updated 4 Round (to Skins pick at #9 in Round 4) Mock draft with trades (though most in the earlier portions of the mock). This is mainly for my own entertainment but researching multiple big boards and mock drafts for trends, etc. and learning every teams needs has really helped. Unfortunately, for the 3rd year in a row, I have an awards dinner in DC on the night of the 1st round, which totally bums me out. Made it home for the Allen pick last year, but not sure I'll be able to catch #13.

 

Round 1	Team	Pick	Trades
Pick 1	Cleveland	Sam Darnold, QB USC
Pick 2	*Buffalo	Josh Allen, QB Wyoming	*Buffalo sends 1(12), 1(22), 2(21), 3(1) to NY Giants for 1(2)
Pick 3	NY Jets	Josh Rosen, QB UCLA
Pick 4	*Miami	Baker Mayfield, QB Oklahoma	*Miami trades 1(11), 2 (10) and a 2019 1st to Cleveland for 1(4)
Pick 5	Denver	Saquan Barkley, RB Penn State
Pick 6	Indianapolis	Quenton Nelson, G Notre Dame
Pick 7	Tampa Bay	Bradley Chubb, DE NC State
Pick 8	Chicago	Tremaine Edmunds, OLB Virginia Tech
Pick 9	*NY Giants	Roquan Smith, ILB Georgia	*NY Giants send 1(12) and 3(5) to San Francisco for 1(9)
Pick 10	Oakland	Mike McGlinchey, OT Notre Dame
Pick 11	*Cleveland (2)	Denzel Ward, CB Ohio State
Pick 12	*San Francisco	Derwin James, S FSU
Pick 13	*LA Chargers	Minkah Fitzpatrick, S Alabama	*LA Chargers send 1(17) and 3(20) to Washington for 1(13)
Pick 14	Green Bay	Leighton Vander Esch, ILB Boise State
Pick 15	Arizona	Lamar Jackson, QB Louisville
Pick 16	Baltimore	Connor Williams, OT Texas
Pick 17	*Washington	Vita Vea, NT Washington
Pick 18	**NY Giants	Derrius Guice, RB LSU	*NY Giants send 2(2) and 3(1) and 5(2) to Seattle for 1(18)
Pick 19	Dallas	Calvin Ridley, WR Alabama
Pick 20	Detroit	Isaiah Wynn, G Georgia
Pick 21	Cincinnati	Will Hernandez, G UTEP
Pick 22	*Seattle	Josh Jackson, CB Iowa
Pick 23	New England	Kolton Miller, OT UCLA
Pick 24	Carolina	Christian Kirk, WR Texas A&M
Pick 25	Tennessee	Harold Landry, OLB Boston College
Pick 26	Atlanta	Taven Bryan, DT Florida
Pick 27	New Orleans	Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State
Pick 28	Pittsburgh	Ronnie Harrison, FS Alabama
Pick 29	Jacksonville	Courtland Sutton, WR SMU
Pick 30	Minnesota	James Daniels, G Iowa
Pick 31	New England (2)	Marcus Davenport, Edge UTSA
Pick 32	*Cleveland (3)	Rashaan Evans, ILB Alabama	*Cleveland sends 2(3) and 4(14) to Philadelphia for 1(32)
Round 2	Team
Pick 1	Cleveland	Orlando Brown, OT Oklahoma
Pick 2	NY Giants	Frank Ragnow, C/G Arkansas
Pick 3	*Philadelphia	Mike Gisecki, TE Penn State
Pick 4	Indianapolis	Jaire Alexander, CB Louisville
Pick 5	Indianapolis (2)	Sony Michel, RB Georgia
Pick 6	Tampa Bay	Jessie Bates, S Wake Forest
Pick 7	Chicago	Austin Corbett, G Nevada
Pick 8	Denver	Billy Price, C/G Ohio State
Pick 9	New England	Kyle Lauletta, QB Richmond
Pick 10	*Cleveland (2)	Da'Ron Payne, DT Alabama
Pick 11	Oakland	Uchenna, Nwosu, LB USC
Pick 12	Washington	Ronald Jones, RB USC
Pick 13	Green Bay	Isaiah Oliver, CB Colorado
Pick 14	Cincinnati	Mike Hughes, CB UCF
Pick 15	Arizona	Brian O'Neill, OT Pittsburgh
Pick 16	LA Chargers	Harrison Phillips, DT Stanford
Pick 17	Indianapolis (3)	Lorenzo Carter, LB Georgia
Pick 18	Dallas	Dallas Goedert, TE SDSU
Pick 19	Detroit	Nick Chubb, RB Georgia
Pick 20	Baltimore	Hayden Hurst, TE South Carolina
Pick 21	*NY Giants (2)	Donte Jackson, CB LSU
Pick 22	Kansas City	Josh Sweat, Edge FSU
Pick 23	Buffalo	James Washington, WR Oklahoma State
Pick 24	Carolina	Braden Smith, G Auburn
Pick 25	Tennessee	Justin Reid, S Stanford
Pick 26	Atlanta	D.J. Moore, WR Maryland
Pick 27	San Francisco	Carlton Davis, CB Auburn
Pick 28	Pittsburgh	Arden Key, OLB LSU
Pick 29	Jacksonville	Mark Andrews, TE Oklahoma
Pick 30	Minnesota	D'Shawn Hand, DL Alabama
Pick 31	New England	D.J. Clark, WR LSU
Pick 32	Cleveland (3)	Maurice Hurst, DT Michigan
Round 3	Team
Pick 1	*Seattle	Chukwuma Okorafor, OT W. Michigan
Pick 2	NY Giants	Sam Hubbard, Edge Ohio State
Pick 3	Indianapolis	Anthony Miller, WR Memphis
Pick 4	Houston	Desmond Harrison OT W. Georgia
Pick 5	*San Francisco	Malik Jefferson, LB Texas
Pick 6	San Francisco (2)	Kerryon Johnson, RB Auburn
Pick 7	Denver	Anthony Averett, CB Alabama
Pick 8	NY Jets	Tyrell Crosby, OT Oregon
Pick 9	Miami	B.J. Hill, DT NC State
Pick 10	San Francisco (3)	Antonio Callaway, WR Florida
Pick 11	Oakland	Rashaad Penny, RB SDSU
Pick 12	Green Bay	Tim Settle, NT Virginia Tech
Pick 13	Cincinnati	Kyzir White, S West Virginia
Pick 14	Kansas City	Folorunso Fatukasi, NT Uconn
Pick 15	Arizona	Armani Watts, FS Texas A&M
Pick 16	Houston (2)	M.J. Stewart, CB UNC
Pick 17	Dallas	Nathan Sheperd, Fort Hays State
Pick 18	Detroit	Trenton Thompson, DT Georgia
Pick 19	Baltimore	Darius Leonard, ILB S. Carolina State
Pick 20	*Washington	Terrell Edmunds, S Virginia Tech
Pick 21	Carolina	Quenton Meeks, CB Stanford
Pick 22	Kansas City (2)	Jamarco Jones, OT Ohio State
Pick 23	LA Rams	Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Edge Oklahoma
Pick 24	Carolina (2)	Ian Thomas, TE Indiana
Pick 25	Tennessee	Jerome Baker, ILB Ohio State
Pick 26	Atlanta	Rasheem Green, DE USC
Pick 27	New Orleans	Dante Pettis, WR Washington
Pick 28	Pittsburgh	Luke Falk, QB Washington State
Pick 29	Jacksonville	Mike White, QB Western Kentucky
Pick 30	Minnesota	Josey Jewell, OLB Iowa
Pick 31	New England	Tegray Scales, LB Indiana
Pick 32	Buffalo	Martinas Rankin, OT Miss. State
Pick 33	Arizona (2)	Deon Cain, WR Clemson
Pick 34	Houston (3)	Sean Welsh, OG Iowa
Pick 35	Denver (2)	Simmie Cobbs, Jr., WR Indiana
Pick 36	Cincinnati (2)	Brandon Parker, OT North Carolina A&T
Rund 4	Team
Pick 1	Green Bay	Wyatt Teller, G Virginia Tech
Pick 2	Tampa Bay	Royce Freeman, RB Oregon
Pick 3	Houston	Dorian O'Daniel, OLB Clemson
Pick 4	Indianapolis	Trevon Young, Edge Louisville
Pick 5	Chicago	Joshua Frazier, NT Alabama
Pick 6	Denver	Dallas Schultz, TE Stanford
Pick 7	NY Jets	Michael Gallup, WR Colorado State
Pick 8	NY Giants	Derrick Nnadi, NT Florida State
Pick 9	Washington	Bradley Bozeman, C/G Alabama

[JamesMadisonSkins]

Best drafts, likely due to sheer # of picks

 

Giants: ILB Roquan Smith, RB Derrius Guice, C Frank Ragnow, CB Donte Jackson, DE Sam Hubbard, NT Derrick Nnadi

Colts: G Quenton Nelson, RB Sony Michel, CB Jaire Alexander, Edge Lorenzo Carter, WR Anthony Miller, LB Trevon Young

San Francisco: S Derwin James, CB Carlton Davis, LB Malik Jefferson, WR Antonio Callaway, RB Kerryon Johnson

Cleveland: QB Sam Darnold, CB Denzel Ward, LB Rashaan Evans, OT Orlando Brown, DT Da'Ron Payne, DT Maurice Hurst

 

Redskins: NT Vita Vea, RB Ronald Jones, S Terrell Edmunds, C/G Bradley Bozeman

Pretty much went BPA ... Edmunds with the acquired 3rd over a reach for a Guard ... Bozeman was not BPA, bigger reach, but needed to plug interior hole. Almost went Slot CB there with Duke Dawson from Florida, but there was enough depth at CB that I felt I could wait to the 5th rounders but not so much at interior OL with the big run that had already occurred, including popular 4th/5th round mock draft target Wyatt Teller.

[Going Commando]

2 hours ago, bakedtater1 said:

Ya I'll flip my lid if we use our first pick on a QB... wouldn't that be just one hell of a way to welcome Alex Smith...I tell ya one thing it sure as hell would be a Redskin thing to do...lol

 

I'm not going to pass on a potential franchise QB because I'm worried about hurting Alex Smith's feelings.

 

The Redskins thing to do would be to pass on Aaron Rodgers again because we think we're all set at QB.

[mistertim]

16 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

 

Here's my updated 4 Round (to Skins pick at #9 in Round 4) Mock draft with trades (though most in the earlier portions of the mock). This is mainly for my own entertainment but researching multiple big boards and mock drafts for trends, etc. and learning every teams needs has really helped. Unfortunately, for the 3rd year in a row, I have an awards dinner in DC on the night of the 1st round, which totally bums me out. Made it home for the Allen pick last year, but not sure I'll be able to catch #13.

 

 

No offense but those first two rounds would make me throw up a little in my mouth. 

 

First Fitz falls to 13 and we pass on a blue chip guy who fell into our laps in order to trade down a bit. Then with our traded down pick we choose Vea with Guice still on the board. Then to top it all off we go with Ronald Jones in the 2nd with Chubb still on the board.

 

If that scenario happened (I'd never trade back if Fitz fell into our laps, but anyway...) I'd pick up Guice at 17 and then Harrison Phillips in the 2nd.

[Going Commando]

52 minutes ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said:

Weird ... how none of us are even mentioning DJ Moore. Local kid, balled out for the Terps, consensus first WR off the board and crickets from the Terps faithful. 

 

Pierre Garcon 2.0.

[JamesMadisonSkins]

2 hours ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said:

 

edit - wouldnt be mad at taking Harold Landry over Vea or Payne if ward, fitz, james, edmunds, r smith, nelson are all gone. Ideally, we madden it up, trade back 5 spots and still get Landry. 

 

 

I would be. I get the theory that you can never have too many pass rushers, but who is Landry going to take the PT from? Kerringa is our starter. Smith is our starter, and is coming off a big year. And Anderson is a 2nd round pick going into his second year with high expectations. Not to mention you brought in McPhee to be a situational guy. That's 4 quality Edge players. Landry would probably push Smith to start, which relegated Anderson to a very limited role.

 

I get that Preston might leave after this year. I understand drafting fro the future. But we DID that last year by drafting Anderson in the 2nd. He was drafted to be your 3rd rotational pass rusher who could start in Year 3 if you let Smith walk. I understand the idea of adding a pass-rusher this year to add depth and be the 3rd rotational pass-rusher in 2019 if Smith walks without a new deal and provide quality depth as the 4th/5th edge on the roster in 2018, but I just can't see it being someone at #13. BPA is BPA ... and Landry has huge upside ... but I'd just hate to see that pick when you can either: Make your DL elite; or Make your secondary very good; or get a dynamic RB who can change your offense.

 

Pass rush is great, but we have the pieces to make a very good one. And I'd argue our DL issues last year are the reasons why our Edge players didn't have the sack numbers that seem elite.

[Koolblue13]

That's why I value Payne so highly. With him in the middle, the rest of our front 7 can be much more productive. 

[JamesMadisonSkins]

13 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

If that scenario happened (I'd never trade back if Fitz fell into our laps, but anyway...) I'd pick up Guice at 17 and then Harrison Phillips in the 2nd.

Admittedly I go back and forth on Vea and Guice. But I think the value at RB is there, and if you can trade back and get a 3rd and still draft Vea at 17, that's a win. It really anchors your defense. Him and Allen side-by-side is a big advantage, especially in the NFC East. It will free up the ILBs to wreak havoc and allow the Edge guys to get more sacks.

 

I love Guice and his upside and would be happy with him at #13, as I would with Fitzpatrick, but something tells me the team is honed in on Vea. And in that scenario, it's unlikely Vea is to go between 14 and 16 so you get a 3rd for Fitzpatrick being there and still take Vea.

 

I see them taking Fitzpatrick in that scenario though, but if Vea is there too and its the Chargers that want to move up, it could make sense.

 

I tried to pick based on what is most likely to happen, not one what I want to happen. And the SKins seem to have legt interest in Ronald Jones. I personally would take Chubb>Jones.

[bakedtater1]

46 minutes ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said:

I agree with everything you two above me said. 

 

Just weird that every single skins fan (including me) is finding plausible reasons to not want him when you would think the homerism in us would be finding and creating narratives to justify him at 13. I think its bc he went to MD and we downgrade our own school bc its not a major program. Id guess if Moore went to Bama or a blue chip school, we would be talking about him more. 

 

Im sure we will all trade for him in Madden 19 though lol. 

 

Some of us are doing gymnastics to justify Guice at 13 or trade down and take Guice. Of course stud RB is a need vs another WR. 

Welllllll I'm from Idaho and I'm not hoopin and hollering for us to go after that linebacker from Boise State...if that means anything lol

[mistertim]

11 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

Admittedly I go back and forth on Vea and Guice. But I think the value at RB is there, and if you can trade back and get a 3rd and still draft Vea at 17, that's a win. It really anchors your defense. Him and Allen side-by-side is a big advantage, especially in the NFC East. It will free up the ILBs to wreak havoc and allow the Edge guys to get more sacks.

 

I love Guice and his upside and would be happy with him at #13, as I would with Fitzpatrick, but something tells me the team is honed in on Vea. And in that scenario, it's unlikely Vea is to go between 14 and 16 so you get a 3rd for Fitzpatrick being there and still take Vea.

 

I see them taking Fitzpatrick in that scenario though, but if Vea is there too and its the Chargers that want to move up, it could make sense.

 

I tried to pick based on what is most likely to happen, not one what I want to happen. And the SKins seem to have legt interest in Ronald Jones. I personally would take Chubb>Jones.

 

I certainly agree with the general premise that having another top notch DL guy in there to help anchor is a need and would help a lot.

 

I just disagree with what seems to be your assumption that Vea will be able to do that. As I've stated before I have concerns about his technique and big concerns about possible motivation/character issues. The guy had to be pushed and prodded and practically dragged around by the ear in college to do his school work just so he could get good enough grades to play football there (and it wasn't a learning disability or anything...he admitted that he just didn't like doing homework and stuff). That's a HUGE red flag to me. It says he either really doesn't care about football all that much, or simply lacks self motivation in general, or both. Also add in that in his film you basically see him take plays off on a regular basis and it could just be straight up laziness too. He isn't going to be babied like that in the NFL. It's sink or swim and he's going to be expected to be very self motivated.

 

No matter how big you are once you get to the NFL you're gonna have to learn good technique or you're going to get beat. I have serious concerns about how coachable he'll be and his motivation to learn technique, watch film and all that other stuff that makes good players into great ones. If he has become self motivated and really is willing to put in the work I think he can be great. if not, he'll just end up a situational fat guy and probably traded or let go within a few years. Huge risk pick IMO.

[Always A Commander Never A Captain]

14 hours ago, zoony said:

 

This is where ive been for weeks

 

We are not going to beat dallas until we can stop the run.  Last 4 games have been miserable to watch.  They just march up and down the field 5 yards at a time

 

That's absolutely right, but our DL was an injury riddled mess against them.

 

1st game against Dallas last season:

-Ziggy Hood, 71% of defensive snaps

-Terrell McClain, 56%

-Anthony Lanier, 41%

-Matt Ioannidis, 34%

-Stacy McGee, 34%

 

2nd game against Dallas:

-Matt Ioannidis, 64% of defensive snaps

-Ziggy Hood, 54%

-Stacy McGee, 43%

-Anthony Lanier, 42%

-AJ Francis, 37%

 

We need health, and we need better depth.  Ideally we'd want another high end talent, but if the depth gets better to where Hood, McClain, and Lanier aren't seeing anywhere those snaps on run defense then we'll improve.

 

I'd love to add a dominant and stout interior d-lineman, but opportunity cost of that compared to someone who is an elite all around talent?

[HoggLife]

58 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

If that scenario happened (I'd never trade back if Fitz fell into our laps, but anyway...) I'd pick up Guice at 17 and then Harrison Phillips in the 2nd.

I'd go Guice and trade up a couple picks in the 2nd and get Payne. 

[JamesMadisonSkins]

I think the best-case scenario for the Redskins is as follows:

Minkah Fitzpatrick falls to #13 and we draft him

Nick Chubb at 44

Tim Settle falls to 4th round

One of the mid-tier guards slips to the 5th

 

It's hard to see the 3rd and 4th happening. We really are going to miss that 3rd round pick, and the truth is, trading back to re-gain some picks means we are passing on the blue-chipper on defense.

 

Forgot who it was but yesterday on the Fan a guest reporter was talking about the Skins at #13 basically being guaranteed a pro-bowl defender being there when they pick. It's pretty hard to pass that up to trade down and accumulate picks. But after #13, the blue-chippers kind of run out and the guys ranked between 15 and 55 are very closely stacked.

So you either stay at #13 and luck out grabbing a blue-chip defender, or you try to maximize and trade that pick off to a team that's willing to give you more to play with in that 15-55 range.

 

[JamesMadisonSkins]

I'm keeping my eyes on the Browns. They have a lot of ammo to move back up into the mid-1st. And if they trade out of #4 to a team like the Patriots or Bills, they're even more likely to move back up. I don't think they'd give us 33 and 35 for #13. Let's say Buffalo gives them #12, #22 and #53 to move up to #4 ... I wouldn't put it past them to send #22 and #53 to us to move back up to #13. Or, if they like keeping #22, they could send us #35, #51 and #64 for #13. I think I'd take that.

 

Cleveland would pick #1, #12, #13, #22 and #33 (5 picks)

Washington would pick at #35, #44, #51, #61 (4 picks)

 

It's really hard to see us moving back THAT and having no picks on Thursday night. But with the positions we need help at, and the sweet spot that exists in the 2nd for some of those positions, that would be a great position to be in.

 

I would think that would get us Billy Price, Nick Chubb, Harrison Phillips and a WR/TE/Edge/CB/S with that pick at 64. Idk.

[Skinsinparadise]

1 hour ago, mistertim said:

 

I like Moore but do we really want to go WR with the 13th overall pick? If we want a WR I'd rather take one a bit later. Anthony Miller actually reminds me a lot of Moore and is probably closer to a 3rd rounder but could go a bit higher. Around the same size, fast, great route runner, circus catch hands, dangerous in space.

 

If the Bob McGinn reports via quoting scouts are on the money -- Miller might be a stud.  Anthony Brown comparisons, wow.   Great blocker, intelligent, great route runner, ready made for the NFL.  I think you likely have to take him in the 2nd though doubt he falls to the third.

[mistertim]

6 minutes ago, HoggLife said:

I'd go Guice and trade up a couple picks in the 2nd and get Payne. 

 

I'd take Phillips over Payne every single day of the week at any position in the draft. About the same weight but taller. Plays the same position with the same sorts of responsibilities (0/1 tech mostly, taking on double teams as well as penetrating and pressuring up the middle) and unlike Payne actually has crazy production from the position: last season had 98 tackles, 17 TFL, and 7.5 sacks...all from a NT position. Also measured better than Payne at pretty much everything in the Combine besides 40 yard dash. 

[mistertim]

3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

If the Bob McGinn reports via quoting scouts are on the money -- Miller might be a stud.  Anthony Brown comparisons, wow.   Great blocker, intelligent, great route runner, ready made for the NFL.  I think you likely have to take him in the 2nd though doubt he falls to the third.

 

Assuming you meant Antonio Brown, not the Congressman from MD?  

 

But yeah I can see some Antonio Brown in him. The first time I noticed Miller was when I was watching tape of Riley Ferguson. My attention kept getting drawn away from Ferguson and to the guy he kept throwing to and I was like "who the hell is this guy who's making all these catches?" then I started watching actual film of Miller and I was super impressed. I think he can be a stud. And apparently he's a super hard worker and high character guy. Very detail oriented and driven.

[HardcoreZorn]

2 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

Assuming you meant Antonio Brown, not the Congressman from MD?  

 

But yeah I can see some Antonio Brown in him. The first time I noticed Miller was when I was watching tape of Riley Ferguson. My attention kept getting drawn away from Ferguson and to the guy he kept throwing to and I was like "who the hell is this guy who's making all these catches?" then I started watching actual film of Miller and I was super impressed. I think he can be a stud. And apparently he's a super hard worker and high character guy. Very detail oriented and driven.

Those are the guys who become stars, ala brown. Wouldn't at all mind spending a second on him, regardless of need. Though would prefer in that situation we traded down and gained another pick in the 2nd-3rd area.

[HigSkin]