justice98 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: The more Trump distances himself from Manafort the less loyalty Manafort will have to Trump. I actually see Gates flipping quicker. From all accounts this guy is a weasel. They all should flip. I'll be damned if I would go through the exercise of a federal prosecution and possible conviction on the HOPE that Trump would pardon me later. I'm not risking my freedom on his word. Maybe he's a persuasive cat though. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 His lawyers are. I see Trump suing everyone and anyone who rats him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 The George P. plea agreement is horrible for Trump, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) George P was definitely involved in attempted collusion with Russia on behalf of Trump. Interesting that it was not part of the charges though. Edited October 30, 2017 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Oops...someone woke the Pumpkin King. Hey Trump, you misspelled “I hired him to be my campaign chairman” Edited October 30, 2017 by AsburySkinsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Quote Trump associates pleading guilty or being indicted? Can we please get to the real story about uranium and DNC/Russia collusion! Edited October 30, 2017 by Cooked Crack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, visionary said: Yeah, it's messed up. Now where's all the dems to tell us that its OK they're probably talking about their favorite colors and the weather? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Anyone who uses three questions marks in a row is guilty of something. Edit: And he used FIVE lol Edited October 30, 2017 by Llevron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Llevron said: The people in my office are so happy today lol. Its more like a Friday than a Monday. Im sure reality will kick in at some point but right now cats are literally riding on the euphoria right now lls seems premature this isn't the goal and it's not clear where it's going from here. i don't see this headline changing anyone's opinions on the issue, and it certainly doesn't do anything about our current situation... another thing: I don't know why anyone would show loyalty to Trump. If you've paid any attention you can see he uses everyone around him however he feels betters his situation in the moment. the only thing he's got is the ability to pardon. i don't really know how that works in situations like this though... is there any belief Pence would pardon Trump et al if they are convicted of crimes against the country? what about simple money laundering? Edited October 30, 2017 by tshile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, tshile said: seems premature this isn't the goal and it's not clear where it's going from here. i don't see this headline changing anyone's opinions on the issue, and it certainly doesn't do anything about our current situation... Right, totally premature. But it is funny to see all the people here cheering for this. If they were paying attention they could have seen the Manafort thing coming months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Trump associates pleading guilty or being indicted? Can we please get to the real story about uranium and DNC/Russia collusion! Forget Manafort. This is the real news story of today. A Trump campaign member explicitly knew about the Russian info operation, was meeting with Kremlin representatives in regards to it and lied about it to the FBI. He's now pled guilty to the charges. Edited October 30, 2017 by No Excuses 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, tshile said: seems premature this isn't the goal and it's not clear where it's going from here. i don't see this headline changing anyone's opinions on the issue, and it certainly doesn't do anything about our current situation... I know...we're still ****ed for the time being. But my dance outta bed this morning...it was a challenge, but somewhat enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, No Excuses said: Forget Manafort. This is the real news story of today. A Trump campaign member explicitly knew about the Russian info operation, was meeting with Kremlin representatives and lied about to the FBI. He's now pled guilty to the charges. Manafort feels better cause we know who he is but yeah this is far more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hey Trump! You spelled Papadopoulos wrong!!! But then, that’s kinda understablable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Cooked Crack said: Manafort feels better cause we know who he is but yeah this is far more important. It's amazing this never got leaked to the media, considering he was arrested on July 27!! Someone go through Trump's madman rants on twitter to see what he was up to that day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hmm I wonder if anyone else has already been arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, No Excuses said: Forget Manafort. This is the real news story of today. A Trump campaign member explicitly knew about the Russian info operation, was meeting with Kremlin representatives and lied about to the FBI. He's now pled guilty to the charges. Is that what was said?....seemed more seeking opposition research Papadopolous does at least give you a Russian connection as far as the meeting,but we already knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Llevron said: Right, totally premature. But it is funny to see all the people here cheering for this. If they were paying attention they could have seen the Manafort thing coming months ago. 2 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said: I know...we're still ****ed for the time being. But my dance outta bed this morning...it was a challenge, but somewhat enjoyable. I'm not trying to be difficult and i'm definitely not trying to defend trump or say none of this matters... but if this doesn't turn into more, if this isn't a power play to turn someone against the rest of them... and it could be, manafort is the perfect person for that (or flynn i guess?) then... in the grand scheme of what matters for this country (if you think Trump is bad for this country), then this is a big fat loser. it's splashy headlines for the FBI and the investigation group. some people's careers will be boosted. but for the rest of us, what really matters, this is a non-factor. i'm not even willing to say it would hurt his re-election chances. unless more comes from this, i honestly don't see anyone's mind changing over what we currently know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, No Excuses said: Forget Manafort. This is the real news story of today. A Trump campaign member explicitly knew about the Russian info operation, was meeting with Kremlin representatives in regards to it and lied about it to the FBI. He's now pled guilty to the charges. this is the real story The other thing that is remarkable about this one is that it was kept airtight for months. There are no leaks coming from the Mueller camp unless they want it out there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, twa said: Is that what was said?....seemed more seeking opposition research What do you think the stolen Clinton emails, released by the Kremlin through Wikileaks, were? He was explicitly told about these and lied about knowing them while working for the campaign. Got busted and is now cooperating. Just now, BenningRoadSkin said: this is the real story The other thing that is remarkable about this one is that it was kept airtight for months. There are no leaks coming from the Mueller camp unless they want it out there. Agreed. 100% this came out today because team Mueller knew that Trump and his cronies would try to spin the "no collusion" story based on Manafort charges. But it seems they already have one person who worked on the campaign, nabbed on collusion, with a guilty plea and explicit evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, BenningRoadSkin said: this is the real story The other thing that is remarkable about this one is that it was kept airtight for months. There are no leaks coming from the Mueller camp unless they want it out there. I would hope they have more than this if he has been cooperating for months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, twa said: I would hope they have more than this if he has been cooperating for months The only thing you are seeing today is the sealed indictment from July. I'm sure the rat had some information to hand out, otherwise he wouldn't be getting a plea bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 His indictment makes it clear, that the feds have emails that show he was emailing other members of the Trump campaign, about his Kremlin contacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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