MisterPinstripe Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 18 hours ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: My rankings: 1) ESB 2) TFA 3) ANH 4) RO 5) ROTS 6) ROTJ 7) ATOTC 8) My Lego Star Wars playset stories when I was 5 9) Anytime a Star Wars cosplayer speaks in costume 10) TPM Mine are: 1) ESB 2) ROTJ 3) TFA 4) ANH 5) RO 6) ROTS 7) AOTC 8) TPM I would call myself a "prequelist", though not because the movies are good. I think ROTS is the best of the lot and pretty good, but TPM is hard to get through. But even though a lot of the prequel movies arent well done, mostly TPM, there are so many great stories and background that we get from the prequels. George Lucas not doing a good job with the movies doesnt negate for me the great history and background we can get from them. I am a believer in the theory that Jar Jar was the Phantom Menace and Lucas chickened out after the massive backlash. Even if that wasnt the plan, it should have been because its brilliant. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Review embargo lifts today @ noon. Just a heads up -- more spoilers than a Porsche 911 convention coming up. Only thing I'm going to check out is the RT score. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, MisterPinstripe said: I am a believer in the theory that Jar Jar was the Phantom Menace and Lucas chickened out after the massive backlash. Even if that wasnt the plan, it should have been because its brilliant. Good list, not much different from mine. TPM has it's moments but yeah, it gets bogged down with some head scratching stuff. I agree but the stories and world from the prequels making them worthwhile even if the exectuion wasn't up to par. Also, can you elaborate on this Jar Jar theory? 30 minutes ago, Mournblade said: more spoilers than a Porsche 911 convention coming up. I am starting my own internet embargo until after I see it Thursday night. This is the only place I feel safe reading comments. I am not having this ruined for me like so many had happen with the Kylo/Han stuff. Then again, it felt really obvious even seeing TFA opening night that it was headed that way. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: Good list, not much different from mine. TPM has it's moments but yeah, it gets bogged down with some head scratching stuff. I agree but the stories and world from the prequels making them worthwhile even if the exectuion wasn't up to par. Also, can you elaborate on this Jar Jar theory? I am starting my own internet embargo until after I see it Thursday night. This is the only place I feel safe reading comments. I am not having this ruined for me like so many had happen with the Kylo/Han stuff. Then again, it felt really obvious even seeing TFA opening night that it was headed that way. Oh well. Here is the Reddit post. It was written before the Force Awakens so some stuff is obviously off. But either way, even if it was never the case, its brilliant. Read the whole thing and watch the example clips. I think it would have been awesome if they had gone that way, even if it was never actually the plan. At the very least its fun to think about. In addition to the below, the actor who played Jar Jar has hinted many times that George Lucas changed the arc of the character a lot after the backlash from fans after TPM. George Lucas was quoted before as saying everything revolved around Jar Jar. In one of the new canon books they have established what happened to Jar Jar so its certainly never going to actually happen as this guy lays out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) Also, after this theory was first posted the actor who played Jar Jar tweeted this: I will say this, it feels really good when the hidden meaning behind the work is seen. No matter how long it takes. #TPM He also said this in an interview: "What I can say about it is – and I kinda said this on Twitter –there's a lot about it that's true," Best hinted. "There are some things that are not true. Could Jar Jar have evolved into that? I think the answer is yes. Because of the backlash, and rightfully so, Lucasfilm backed off from Jar Jar a lot. But a lot of the influence I put into the character mirrored a lot of what was already in the Star Wars universe." Edited December 12, 2017 by MisterPinstripe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 IGN has just put up there review. As has AICN. Of course I'm not going to read it, I'm 100% spoiler free. Just like I'm not reading any of your posts (no offence). I suppose it will take RT an hour or so to aggregate these reviews/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) Hot damn. That would have been kinda awesome. I always felt that a big flaw of the prequels was that it had no overarching villain. I guess Palpatine was but it was sort of a loose thread. Maul, Dooku, Grievous etc they needed to have somebody that was central threat in each movie as collaborator/partner with Palpatine. It kinda cheapened each that they were introduced and killed so quickly in their movies. There was a way to do that with Jar Jar as outlined above but they didn't have to make him go quite so "full stupid" and make him talk the way he does etc which killed it. He could have still been a doofus that was revealed to be all those things if he wasn't such an offensive, mindbogglingly annoying, insulting to our own intelligence of a character. Tone him down to 25% of what he was and it could have worked. Edited December 12, 2017 by Momma There Goes That Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Too long. Meesa didn't read. I'll show myself out. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Do any of you guys frequent Super Hero Hype Boards? That board is the most anti-Star Wars board on the web. Bunch of nerds who salivate over everything Marvel (you should have see the brown nosing going on for Thor Ragnarok), and then anything Star Wars they immediately put down. The positive reactions to the Last Jedi must be driving them nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 RT has it at 93% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I really think people who post spoilers on the net should be hunted down and prosecuted. For TFA I saw a major spoiler one day before I actually saw the movie, and it totally ruined the experience for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Im looking to make myself very busy for the next few days until I see it Friday night. I will not be on social media and I will only go to a very few select websites where I wont have to worry about spoilers popping up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kosher Ham Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) Again, I think most will have a let down. Spoiler PREDICTION: Luke probably dies...but who kills him ? Edited December 12, 2017 by Kosher Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) We need a put down final predictions. Mine: (using spoiler tags just in case they are right) Spoiler Rey is not Obi wan or Luke's child. She is born of the force either thru experimentation by Palpatine or Snoke or naturally. Snoke Kills Luke. Snoke is revealed to be the first Dark side user of the force, still alive thousands of years waiting for the right opportunity to return and claim power. Luke likely knows this from his understanding and reading of Jedi/Sith history. Kylo kills Snoke to assume all dark side power We are left with an inevitable rematch between Kylo and Rey, for the final chapter of the movie. No greater baddies, no allegiance turns or twists. Just good vs evil. We know the stakes. They know they will have to fight again, life or death, winner take all in episode 9. Edited December 12, 2017 by Momma There Goes That Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Scored 6 tickets from a client who rents out the theatre for big movies. Early Thursday screening. Looking forward to seeing this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 OMGZ SPOILSERZ!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 BirthMoviesDeath has a good in-depth review up with no spoilers. Has me hyped. I have opening night tickets for tomorrow at 7pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 94% on RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 21 hours ago, Kosher Ham said: Again, I think most will have a let down. Hide contents PREDICTION: Luke probably dies...but who kills him ? Nah... Spoiler I think Leia dies this one and Luke will perish in the final movie. Then the circle will be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I'm suggesting right now that the mods make 2 threads for this: a spoiler-free thread and a thread that allows spoilers. I am going to see the movie tommorow night at 7:30 EST, which will be the first showing on the East Coast. Afterwards, you bet I'm going to want to talk and gush about it. But that just isn't fair to people who have to wait until Friday or the weekend. So I'm just suggesting making two threads might be an idea. (If it doesn't happen, don't worry, I won't come here to blab Not until Monday, at least.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mournblade said: I'm suggesting right now that the mods make 2 threads for this: a spoiler-free thread and a thread that allows spoilers. I am going to see the movie tommorow night at 7:30 EST, which will be the first showing on the East Coast. Afterwards, you bet I'm going to want to talk and gush about it. But that just isn't fair to people who have to wait until Friday or the weekend. So I'm just suggesting making two threads might be an idea. (If it doesn't happen, don't worry, I won't come here to blab Not until Monday, at least.) Start a thread for spoilers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Springfield said: Start a thread for spoilers. Yeah just so that. Isn’t showing is 9pm so if it’s now up when I get home I’ll make one so we can discuss in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I'm not going until Monday. I can resist for a few days. But indeed, he should start a thread. Pretty sure that @Zguy28 and I are just throwing out ideas. Side note... Our spoilers are not verified. We are just anticipating the movie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 37 minutes ago, Springfield said: Start a thread for spoilers. Done. So no one spoils it here. Since everyone gets to go see it before I do...damned yearly date with the wife that recreates our first date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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