Larry Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Looks like Mitch might be next. Spending bill in the Senate with PP funding is getting GOP all riled up, Vice Chairman has called on him to go the way of Boehner. Obviously, what's needed here is more far-right purity NBC/WSJ Poll: 6 in 10 Oppose Defunding Planned Parenthood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Obviously, what's needed here is more far-right purity NBC/WSJ Poll: 6 in 10 Oppose Defunding Planned Parenthood It's funny how several have attacked Boehner and Mitch as harming the GOP brand, when the position of the people fighting to replace them have a much worse brand for the GOP. That's fine in the long run, these things have a way of reverting to the middle, which, if the GOP keeps pushing farther and farther to the right while in power, would mean a democratic wave sometime in the next couple of elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Wow, I stand corrected. I was aware of the guy's affinity for the IRA but I never realized he was actually supporting them. Here's an account of some of Peter King's shameful history ... http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/01/10/the-terrorists-man-in-washington.html He continued his support of terrorism post 9/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Obviously, what's needed here is more far-right purity NBC/WSJ Poll: 6 in 10 Oppose Defunding Planned Parenthood 18% of Republicans have a positive view of PP 2 in 10 of your opposition are wavering yeah the Reps should just elect Dems or vote along with them. give me the exact wording of the poll ....that's a science ya know Call it the Karl Rove effect. Karl opposes defunding PP...at this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT WASHINGTON (AP) - Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy of California announces his candidacy for House Speaker. Curious to see what anti-establishment candidate throws their hat in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Curious to see what anti-establishment candidate throws their hat in. most I've seen are behind McCarty...Sessions and Dixon will probably run as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 The Republican Party is becoming some sort feverish dream Barry Goldwater had one night after too many burgers at a late-night, commie bashing social. I'm not the biggest fan of the House Speaker, but hearing about his resignation was concerning to me. The era of the "liberal Republicans" like Nelson Rockafeller and Olympia Snowe has come and gone, but are we getting to a point where right-leaning "Establishment Republicans" are now not conservative enough for the party? Goldwater would throw up at the degree to which the Grand Oligarch's Party has been taken over by the religious nut jobs. I'm sure they want deserters opinions on the matter They're very likely to get it in the next election whether they want it or not. I'm sure I'm not the only former RINO voting for the Dems nowadays. If the march to purity continues, that will leave the GOP with nothing but people like you. Pretty hard to remain relevant when you only appeal to 18% of the populace. Agreed all around. Boehner is like...the bad guy from a bad 80s comedy. Yeah, he's stiff-necked and he's going to piss you off by how out of touch he seems to be, but at least there's some semblance of reason there. The TEA Party caucus is something that is truly frightening. In a way, I can sympathize with them because I'm supporting a candidate for President who, while a long-time member of congress, is considered an outsider with fringe ideals, but at least he has a past of reaching across the aisle and doing business with "the other side." This batch of newer conservatives in both houses give no quarter and seem to constantly come from a place of fear and loathing for everyone who doesn't think and speak like they do. I feel great for Boehner. He's leaving a dumpster fire and I'm sure he feels lighter than air. I am truly concerned for the Republican Party, whIch seems to be continuing their slide into complete madness. I think Boehner probably came to see things my way. Sometimes, it's best to give a fool his own way and just sit back and watch the ensuing train wreck. I for one, can't wait to see the results of the Tea Klan finally getting to have their way. ...and you all thought it was impossible for Congress' approval rating to get any lower. HA! You ain't seen nuttin' yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Vote as ya will, and live or die with the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I'd just like to point out something about Kevin McCarthy, in case no one has heard... He's authored & gotten passed just two pieces of legislation...one to name a post office after Buck Owens (Hee-Haw good guy), and naming a space research center after Neil Armstrong (hopefully we all know who he is). Yeah, he's the most qualified for Speaker. He can handle the tough stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 McCarthy talking infrastructure. Territorial tax, no environmental control. MSNBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Steve Scalise is running for the post. He's the guy who spoke at the White Supremacists Conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Steve Scalise is running for the post. He's the guy who spoke at the White Supremacists Conference and described himself as "David Duke Without the Baggage". You've exceeded your limit on baggage, and that'll cost you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Got a feeling that who they pick for the job is going to have an impact on the Republican "brand", going into this election. Go, extremists, go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 The Republican Party is becoming some sort feverish dream Barry Goldwater had one night after too many burgers at a late-night, commie bashing social. I'm not the biggest fan of the House Speaker, but hearing about his resignation was concerning to me. The era of the "liberal Republicans" like Nelson Rockafeller and Olympia Snowe has come and gone, but are we getting to a point where right-leaning "Establishment Republicans" are now not conservative enough for the party? Listen to Bush 1 and Reagan's comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Listen to Bush 1 and Reagan's comments. You're just nitpicking. When Bush says "honorable, decent, family-loving people", you can tell from his tone that he really means "murderers and rapists". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It's interesting to read so many people characterize Boehner as a level headed, moderate republican. Not sure if I've misunderstood the criticism of him in the past, of people have changed their views, or if they're just looking at the replacements and forgetting what they used to say about Boehner. To be fair, I thought he got a bad rap for his role in the 'party of no' stuff. I always thought the other side had their own fair share of not cooperating. But I'm seeing people I recall trashing Boehner speaking of his departure like it's this terrible thing because he was such a good leader/compromising person and it's weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It's interesting to read so many people characterize Boehner as a level headed, moderate republican. But compared to the fringe of his party that likely forced him out - sadly that's an apt description. But yeah, he's as dyed in the wool conservative as they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Listen to Bush 1 and Reagan's comments. They should play that clip at the GOP debate and ask for responses. I would bet they would all attack George Bush and pretend they didn't hear what Reagan said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 and pretend they didn't hear what Reagan said. That would be ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I feel like someone has to have played these Reagan videos for Republican candidates by now. Like, it's funny, but he's so much closer to the center compared to so many of his modern day peers. To be fair, I thought he got a bad rap for his role in the 'party of no' stuff. I always thought the other side had their own fair share of not cooperating. But I'm seeing people I recall trashing Boehner speaking of his departure like it's this terrible thing because he was such a good leader/compromising person and it's weird... While Boehner was hardly the best political bedfellow for Democrats (which is to be expected), he seemingly was more focused on creating a functioning government than many in his party were. I remember first feeling sorry for him pretty early in his tenure, when he was drawing flak from the far right, and being forced into political standoffs that you could tell he was only halfheartedly involved in. I definitely disagree with his politics, but frankly out of the Republican party today, he's one of the first people I'd want being Speaker if the GOP is in charge, since he would make sure there was a functioning government (though he'd first have to not be so quick to give into the far right wing that has made governing so difficult). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I feel like someone has to have played these Reagan videos for Republican candidates by now. Like, it's funny, but he's so much closer to the center compared to so many of his modern day peers. The irony (is that the right word?) is if someone ran as an actual Reagan Republican now, it wouldn't even be close. "All" the Dems had to do for 2016 is to put up a decently strong candidate and they've failed to do that because Hillary was supposed to be the annointed one. And, if they lose what should be a gimme white house that's their fault for defaulting to Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 There's no such thing as a Reagan Republican anymore. Frankly, Reagan might be considered more liberal than Obama if he ran today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 There's no such thing as a Reagan Republican anymore. Frankly, Reagan might be considered more liberal than Obama if he ran today. He'd probably have hugged Obama at some point, and then the far right would talk about how he's a "Liberal Hollywood Elite." And that's how Zombie Reagan lost the 2016 Election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 They should play that clip at the GOP debate and ask for responses. I would bet they would all attack George Bush and pretend they didn't hear what Reagan said. There would be a strategic angle involved for most of the participants, i.e. try to connect Bush, 'er Jeb to the tarnished Bush past in an effort to knock him out before he fully gets started. However the idea that Saint Reagan would be seen by today's neo-fascist GOP as an amnesty RINO is spot on. Not to mention St. Reagan's tax increases. Odd that many on the far right don't know that even as they clamor to name everything from airports to highways after St. Reagan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 There's no such thing as a Reagan Republican anymore. Frankly, Reagan might be considered more liberal than Obama if he ran today. I think Perry is close to one....it is why we disagreed so often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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