posse87 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Funny thing....I had a chat with a professional sports psychologist who was a consultant for professional sports franchises a while ago. Then, I thought again about it during this coaching hire. He evaluated the players, coaches, etc, and assisted in determining roster/managerial moves. Seems like it would be a good idea to have this type of input when making such impactful hiring determinations for Billion Dollar businesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Because they would probably be paid by Snyder and Snyder and his money are the devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 While I can see the benefit in this I don't know... Maybe if you have an established team and you're trying to find the right fit, however this team is probably about to be blown up, again, and most of the players won't even be around. I guess HC and RGIII (or just rg3 if he's such a headcase as they say which I don't buy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Because their workload is already too heavy just dealing w/ fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolHandLuke Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 James Franklin is a Psych major FYI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longball Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Because it is football and not tea and crumpets. I understand Sport Psych on sime athletes that are head cases but not a candidate for HC. Except for Zorny, a Sprts Psych may have seen that coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolHandLuke Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Because it is football and not tea and crumpets. I understand Sport Psych on sime athletes that are head cases but not a candidate for HC. Except for Zorny, a Sprts Psych may have seen that coming. WRONG! See Phil Jackson... And don't give me the crap about it being a different sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longball Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 WRONG! See Phil Jackson... And don't give me the crap about it being a different sport Please provide further insight to validate a simple 'WRONG' response. This is a gladiator sport with athletes that do not lack confidence, and I do not see a Sport Psych input during the hiring process of an NFL head-coach relevant. NFL candidates going for a HC position are fine as it relates to sports psych. This is a bigger focus/need for Childhood & High School sports to build mental toughness and achieve excellence in individuals. Since this is now a pissing contest, I can validate my stance as I took several undergrad and grad coures in Sport Psych on my way to a Kinesiology PhD. If you'd like to learn more, I would gladly invite you to some lectures during Spring Semester. A Sports Psych holds no place in the hiring of an NFL HC. And congratualtions on reading a book by Phil Jackson on mental toughness and building a championship team(Michael Jordan/Kobe Bryant guy I will leave it at that). If you enjoyed it I can recommend about 500 more for you. These are great motivational books that sell to the masses(FYI no other coaches read them). Every coach to win any championship at a high level and lower levels will have insights and proficiency in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 There's not a coach worth a damn that doesn't use Psychology. Motiviation is critical. There a lot of different ways of motivating but every coach employs psychology. Especially Joe Gibbs. You have to convince athletes to embrace tasks that don't benefit their self interests for the good of the team. Doesn't get any more clear cut than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 "We must begin by asking, what is losing? Losing is a disease ..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 We need one for our fanbase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Probably because some of them are wrong like this one : "The aforementioned psychological profile described Hernandez as having “good intelligence” despite not posting good grades at Florida. A synopsis of the report provided to FOX Sports depicted Hernandez as “passionate toward football with a fun personality. He gets along with all different types of people" link Others have their own ways: "Teams also aren't afraid to use specialists to find critical information that can be used in interviews. The Cleveland Browns used a former Secret Service member, Lew Merletti, to do their probing for years. The New York Jets' vice president of security, Steve Yarnell, is a former FBI agent. The Raiders didn't use such tactics when former owner Al Davis was alive, but Davis routinely had a front-office staffer pretend to be a Sports Illustrated reporter when calling college stars for interviews. The impostor would use those conversations to ask the young men for information on teammates the team was considering in the draft. "When he was running the Indianapolis Colts, current ESPN analyst Bill Polian had his own reliable methods of procuring information before interviews. His security people conducted background checks, the area scouts worked the college coaches and scoured media guides for important details, and other team representatives chatted with high school connections, including coaches, principals and guidance counselors. Polian saw the interview as the final step in a yearlong evaluation process, and he also was among the first executives to advocate psychological testing." Link When you see guys like Burfict, Mathieu and others who had been carrying red flags in college and without being the smartest guys had the will to turn things around, you realize that psyche tests are no guaranteed insurance vs failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 We need one for our fanbase Here, here. Quite a few that have been posting the last couple of weeks could use some therapy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Why aren't they available for fans leaving the games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
posse87 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hahah....yes some on this board could use some counselling, heck we could all use some counseling. I just think it would be a huge advantage to have them listen in on the interview process, suggest questions to ask, and prepare a report for the GM on each candidate. How the report is weighted would be based on the GM. The more info the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoFast Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 15 years too late. They should have been involved in franchise purchase process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 We need one for our fanbase I think you mean psychiatrist, not psychologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think you mean psychiatrist, not psychologist. both of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think you mean psychiatrist, not psychologist. A psychiatrist prescribes psychotropics. A psychologist uses psychological theories to provide mental heath treatment. I *AM* a therapist, and ****, this fanbase needs everything that it can get. On topic, I don't see why people think that a sports psychologist is supposed to be the end-all-be-all as opposed to just another professional set of eyes to help in the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryko Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I've done sport psychology research for high school and college athletes and I don't think it would be of any benefit in an intervie wprocess. Sport psychologists asses performances of players and coaches and introduce strategies (interventions in a scientific sense) to maximize the performances of teams and individuals. I don't think that would really help when the interview process is trying to find who is the right fit for a team's coach, as the sport psychologist would have to already be familiar on a personal level with others in the organization and understand football and what direction the team is going in. Not really the right place for a sport psychologist IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Redskins request interview for said coach. Redskins tell said coach that a sports psychologists will be part of the interview process. Said coach says to team "Here's some Psych 101 for you. Go **** yourself Danny boy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick7423 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (or just rg3 if he's such a headcase as they say which I don't buy). (then why mention it. The more it is repeated, the more value it gets) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 What is a "sports psychologist" and how do they differ from normal psychologists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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