Going Commando Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, The Evil Genius said: I think Ranadive wants the Kings to be the Dubs. He really thinks Buddy is Steph like. I don't see it. Nobody in the world sees it. I have a hard time believing that anybody could be so amateur and delusional as to believe that Hield is truly a young Curry. I think the guy who broke that story misrepresented Ranadive's feelings on Hield and that whoever gave him that quote was trying to embarrass Ranadive. I don't think the reason the Kings got back such a poor return for Cousins was because they were completely delusional about Buddy Hield. I think it's because they were in a desperate place needing to tank and needing to get rid of Cousins, and the market for Cousins was lousy. I think Cousins submarined his own value by being such a headcase and that Sacramento's major blunder was in not trading him sooner. Sacramento's best trade partners would have been the Celtics and Wizards during the previous two offseasons. They probably could have gotten Beal or Porter (or maybe even both) plus Marcin Gortat for Cousins from the Wizards last summer or the summer of 2015. But after the Wizards put it together this season and Beal and Porter emerged, there was no way DC blows it all up and makes that deal. And Boston saying "Hell No" basically removed any other suitor with highly appealing assets from the market. They're desperate for a star. They could have blown any other offer out of the water. The reason they didn't want him was his culture killing immaturity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Careful now. People have been tarred and feathered worse on this board for questioning Boogie's actual value. As for the Hield obsession...apparently Ranadive still wanted him even when he was drafted by the Pels (according to Hield today). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Is that how that trade works out? A single first turns into a single 2nd? To me the Cousins trade is similar to the Noel trade, if that's what you can get then that's what he is worth, BUT with Cousins you did have the option of holding onto him into the off season to see if you could get a better trade. That comes with risk if he gets hurt or does something else to hurt his value. The Kings had to start over and in that sense they had to trade Cousins. I'm not sure of the benefit of trading him now vs. July. If they've talked to teams before and the sense is this is what he was about what he was worth, then you take it. Edited February 23, 2017 by PeterMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Sinister Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) I keep refreshing Twitter hoping to see something huge like George/Butler/Melo to Boston. I wanna see that punk ass in Cleveland short-circuit Edited February 23, 2017 by Mr. Sinister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Careful now. People have been tarred and feathered worse on this board for questioning Boogie's actual value. As for the Hield obsession...apparently Ranadive still wanted him even when he was drafted by the Pels (according to Hield today). Remember, the Kings REJECTED a Cousins for Drummond swap. Cousins' value was fine and it wasn't nearly as low as folks were making it out to be after the trade. The Hield haul was nothing more but gross incompetence on a historic level by the Kings front office. Quite possibly the worst trade in the existence of the NBA. Which says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: I keep refreshing Twitter hoping to see something huge like George/Butler/Melo to Boston. I wanna see that punk ass in Cleveland short-circuit Woj said PG is staying put in IND. Edited February 23, 2017 by STBonecrusher21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Edited February 23, 2017 by BRAVEONAWARPATH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Draft night is going to be a feeding frenzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 22 minutes ago, RonArtest15 said: Remember, the Kings REJECTED a Cousins for Drummond swap. Cousins' value was fine and it wasn't nearly as low as folks were making it out to be after the trade. The Hield haul was nothing more but gross incompetence on a historic level by the Kings front office. Quite possibly the worst trade in the existence of the NBA. Which says a lot. There is something really weird about the report that they rejected the Drummond swap. It doesn't make any sense on the surface, so there must have been something going on beneath the surface. I think it was this: the Kings promised DeMarcus Cousins they would trade him and wanted to do him a solid and send him to a preferred destination. I think Cousins asked them to trade him during the offseason and that they promised they would if he played ball and they still weren't in playoff position by the deadline. And I think they probably asked him for a list of teams and New Orleans was on that list because they had one of his Kentucky buddies, and Detroit wasn't. I think Cousins coming out and saying he wanted to stay in Sacramento and have his legacy be with the organization a couple of weeks ago was a favor the team asked of him to try and increase their leverage in trades. I think the real reason Cousins asked Steve Kerr not to play him in the AS game was because he knew Sacramento was working on a trade. And if you watch the video of his initial reaction to being told he'd been traded, I think it's clear that he was both happy and unsurprised to hear about it. He immediately made a joke about loving New Orleans, indicating the Pelicans were one of the teams he expected to get traded to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 He was caught off-guard when told. Hard to judge someone's reaction off of big news in the moment. After he had a while to process, and we saw the tears flowing, you can see how much he cared for folks in that city. Also... JustinVerrier The Pelicans are now expected to waive Terrence Jones, according to sources, so that he can pursue other options.2/23/17, 3:14 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 45 minutes ago, RonArtest15 said: Remember, the Kings REJECTED a Cousins for Drummond swap. Cousins' value was fine and it wasn't nearly as low as folks were making it out to be after the trade. The Hield haul was nothing more but gross incompetence on a historic level by the Kings front office. Quite possibly the worst trade in the existence of the NBA. Which says a lot. Drummond doesn't make any better sense for the Kings than Cousins did. They need to start over. If they get Drummond, they then just have to trade him. Now, maybe Drummond brings back more than Cousins did, but I don't see any reason to assume that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Curry is on fire. SO much swag Too much Swag for the clippers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said: Curry is on fire. SO much swag Too much Swag for the clippers. They own them and 50 in a quarter is wow. Did you also notice the 5-6 step travel (not called) dunk by Durant? Seriously, how do officials let that go? It's on the GS twitter feed currently. Ok, maybe only 4 steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 The Dubs 50 pt 3rd quarter tonight was absolutely ruthless. Don't poke the bear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Damn last time i checked phone the Clippers were up double digits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: Damn last time i checked phone the Clippers were up double digits They were up 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Didn't get a chance to read the article yet...but it looks interesting. DeMarcus Cousins shares why the Sacramento Kings’ trade decision was so hurtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Shaq and JaVale might actually fight when they see each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, StillUnknown said: Shaq and JaVale might actually fight when they see each other A far more compelling matchup than Mayweather/Macgregor. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Shaq's humor is not aging well, he used to be a lot better at insults and trash talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: Shaq and JaVale might actually fight when they see each other something else happen between them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Destino said: something else happen between them? got into a kerfuffle on twitter overnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 14 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: got into a kerfuffle on twitter overnight Just saw it on deadspin. McGee was heated and Shaq responded by lighting him on fire again. I got McGee if they fight though. I remember shaq throwing hands during his playing days and his punches were less accurate than his free throws. Age hasn't fixed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I'll ride with any dude willing to tell Shaq to "take my nuts out your mouth". Team Javale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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