Obamacare...(new title): GOP DEATH PLAN: Don-Ryan's Express

[@DCGoldPants]

Sure the money for medicaid will be there. We'll get it from x..... 

 

Now, let's get back to some super fun Threw Card Monte. 

 

 

Edited June 25, 2017 by @SkinsGoldPants

[JCB]

Absolutely monstrous that some are "no" votes on this because it's "not conservative enough." Again and again we see that the long con of the Reagan "revolution" is to persuade people that government as such is the enemy. The basic social goods of a decent society are therefore identified as "handouts," "socialism," or pretty much just pick your bumper sticker.

 

I wonder what would be "conservative enough"? I mean you can't just hand people a First Aid kit and see "good luck, mate" because that's "socialism" too.

 

Where is the outcry when "big government" fills your pothole or delivers your mails?

 

And nobody ever took to the streets about fines for no auto insurance? 

[Cooked Crack]

These guys ain't even trying to hide it. If you have a pre-existing condition, get bent. Dems should be running ads with anything that can constitute a pre-existing condition. Might be less abstract when people realize their health is on the line.

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“We know why those premiums doubled,” he opined. “We’ve done something with our health care system that you would never think about doing, for example, with auto insurance, where you would require auto insurance companies to sell a policy to somebody after they crash their car.”

“States that have… guarantees for preexisting conditions, it crashes their markets,” he continued. “It causes the markets to collapse. It causes premiums to skyrocket."

 

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/ron-johnson-people-with-preexisting-condition-dont-deserve-insurance-like-somebody-who-crashes-their-car/

[LadySkinsFan]

Democrats should be running ads right now instead of waiting until election season.

 

Get the word out about what the Republicans are doing.

[@DCGoldPants]

Of course they should. But they won't. 

[Isifhan]

1 hour ago, Cooked Crack said:

These guys ain't even trying to hide it. If you have a pre-existing condition, get bent. Dems should be running ads with anything that can constitute a pre-existing condition. Might be less abstract when people realize their health is on the line.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/ron-johnson-people-with-preexisting-condition-dont-deserve-insurance-like-somebody-who-crashes-their-car/

Convinent that he doesn't mention that everyone typically has car insurance which keeps the premiums down.

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

16 minutes ago, Isifhan said:

Convinent that he doesn't mention that everyone typically has car insurance which keeps the premiums down.

He also conveniently forgot to mention that comparing somebody who has an existing medical condition with somebody who crashes their car is stupid.

[@DCGoldPants]

Almost like a group who wrecked the economy complaining about the speed its recovering. 

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Edited June 26, 2017 by visionary

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[SkinsPassion4Life]

I'm a Republican and believe there should be a mandate...never understood the argument against one.....that does not mean single payer or government run care.

 

I also don't believe the private insurance should cover pre-existing conditions......that's where the government comes in...the sick and elderly should be covered by the government....and having a mandate should help with that......we also need tort reform and the ability to buy across state lines.....create more competition.

 

I'm not sure this exists now, but what about creating an association for groups of people?    for example, construction workers association;  there must be millions of construction workers....you get all these insurance companies to bid to get them as a client.....I'm not sure if Unions already have this?     But there must be groups of people that aren't in Unions that can pool together

[LadySkinsFan]

3 minutes ago, SkinsPassion4Life said:

I'm a Republican and believe there should be a mandate...never understood the argument against one.....that does not mean single payer or government run care.

 

I also don't believe the private insurance should cover pre-existing conditions......that's where the government comes in...the sick and elderly should be covered by the government....and having a mandate should help with that......we also need tort reform and the ability to buy across state lines.....create more competition.

 

I'm not sure this exists now, but what about creating an association for groups of people?    for example, construction workers association;  there must be millions of construction workers....you get all these insurance companies to bid to get them as a client.....I'm not sure if Unions already have this?     But there must be groups of people that aren't in Unions that can pool together

 

Gee, what a great idea about groups! Oh wait...they already do that with associations. Plus I get my supplement insurance through AARP. 

 

So like Medicare, it covers some things and I buy supplement insurance to cover what Medicare doesn't.

[SkinsPassion4Life]

2 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

 

Gee, what a great idea about groups! Oh wait...they already do that with associations. Plus I get my supplement insurance through AARP. 

 

So like Medicare, it covers some things and I buy supplement insurance to cover what Medicare doesn't.

 

Are there more groups they can add?    Maybe create some new ones?    

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Edited June 26, 2017 by visionary

[LadySkinsFan]

These individuals who want no regulations better hire attorneys to check out their policies. Every single one will be different, cover different things, not cover others.

 

Stupid people.

[Llevron]

21 minutes ago, visionary said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Holup

[visionary]

 

[Dan T.]

Is pathological lying considered a pre-existing condition?

[NoCalMike]

Hasn't the entire "allow people to buy insurance across state lines" as some kind of fix been debunked already?  I hear people repeat that line all the time.

12 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

These individuals who want no regulations better hire attorneys to check out their policies. Every single one will be different, cover different things, not cover others.

 

Stupid people.

 

Are you saying the "Invisible Healing Hand" isn't a good plan?

[SkinsPassion4Life]

Ha...just turned on CNN and Rand Paul is talking about Group insurance...clearly reading my post from a few hours ago.

 

I think his point was to replace the individual market with group insurance.....makes sense to me.

[LadySkinsFan]

Gee, Medicare for all?

[Riggo-toni]

The individual Mandate was part of EVERY GOP plan until...Obama implemented it.

The crossing state lines thing has been limited to just 3 or 4 states iirc. Not really much of a sample size to draw conclusions.

[Llevron]

Serious inquiry. Is there a reason outside of money that we cannot just give free healthcare to Americans? I feel like we complicate the issue way wayyyy too much. 

[visionary]