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killerbee99 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) LKB, thanks for that awesome breakdown, but also **** Trump, Pelosi better not help him with that option. He needs to fail and get kicked out of office. Any other Republican President I wouldn't give a flying monkeys fart, but not this President or moron in chief as I call him. The R's played the game about time Democrats start **** slapping people, because apparently truth and common sense doesn't mean **** anymore. It is my view or how I feel about facts like our greta leader likes to spew out of his diarrhea mouth. Edited March 24, 2017 by killerbee99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twa Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, killerbee99 said: LKB, thanks for that awesome breakdown, but also **** Trump Pelosi better not help his ass period with that option. That option does not need her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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killerbee99 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, twa said: That option does not need her. Correct, run-on sentence fail, good catch, sir (I still think you know better and don't understand why you must often troll on other subjects) Edited March 24, 2017 by killerbee99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Springfield Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Am I the only one that's not comfortable that this isn't passing because it ISN'T a ****ty enough law? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mistertim Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Wow...so Trump is not really an amazing businessman/dealmaker and is actually just a bullying man-child con artist who was born with a silver spoon up his ass? Who could have ever predicted that? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 14 minutes ago, Springfield said: Am I the only one that's not comfortable that this isn't passing because it ISN'T a ****ty enough law? Not at all. I am, however, very glad that the GOP didn't solve the problem by making it suck badly enough to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I would be embarrassed if I were a Republican in the House and in 7 years I couldn't come up with a comprehensive healthcare bill. Congress makes the laws not the President so the fact these guys and gals stand around waiting for things to happen instead of being problem solvers shows they really don't give a **** about helping people they just want to play it safe so they can keep their job. Good luck next election dumbasses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, jschuck12001 said: I would be embarrassed if I were a Republican in the House and in 7 years I couldn't come up with a comprehensive healthcare bill. Congress makes the laws not the President so the fact these guys and gals stand around waiting for things to happen instead of being problem solvers shows they really don't give a **** about helping people they just want to play it safe so they can keep their job. Good luck next election dumbasses. They never actually wanted to I think. They just wanted something to **** about Obama endlessly over by screaming "Repeal and Replace" constantly without ever having to actually offer a substantive solution. And now that they have to, we see it is an enormous, steaming, pulsating, turd which has a 17% approval rating with the American public according to a recent Quinnipiac poll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PeterMP Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Springfield said: Am I the only one that's not comfortable that this isn't passing because it ISN'T a ****ty enough law? I don't think, even among the Freedom Caucus, that's why this isn't passing. It isn't passing because it isn't a good law, and they know it, and in the future, they don't want to own that fewer people have health insurance and that health insurance costs have continued to go up (and potentially even gone up even faster). They've railed against Obamacare as an intrusion by government, etc, but in the end, they know that if they pass something and the health care costs situation doesn't get better, they are going to own it. And this law isn't going to make the situation better (and I suspect might actually make things worse). At some level, I think this all might be orchestrated theater. They don't pass anything and they don't have to deal with the fact that what they actually voted for didn't work, and everybody can blame somebody else that they couldn't get something done. The extremists blame the moderates, the moderates blame the extremists and Trump in general blames Congress and they all can continue to blame the Democrats for passing the ACA in the first place. and they all can go on pretending to their voters that their "plan" would have fixed the problems with the health care costs if only the "other" side would have cooperated and realize that their side is wrong. Edited March 24, 2017 by PeterMP 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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haithman Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 So who takes Ryan's place when he gets ****canned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, haithman said: So who takes Ryan's place when he gets ****canned? They had to beg Ryan 16 months ago. No one else could get the votes. And after this ****show, Trump won't back anyone in the Freedom Caucus. And none of Ryan's allies woudld take it. Who that leaves? I have no freaking idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JSSkinz Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 55 minutes ago, PeterMP said: I don't think, even among the Freedom Caucus, that's why this isn't passing. It isn't passing because it isn't a good law, and they know it, and in the future, they don't want to own that fewer people have health insurance and that health insurance costs have continued to go up (and potentially even gone up even faster). They've railed against Obamacare as an intrusion by government, etc, but in the end, they know that if they pass something and the health care costs situation doesn't get better, they are going to own it. And this law isn't going to make the situation better (and I suspect might actually make things worse). At some level, I think this all might be orchestrated theater. They don't pass anything and they don't have to deal with the fact that what they actually voted for didn't work, and everybody can blame somebody else that they couldn't get something done. The extremists blame the moderates, the moderates blame the extremists and Trump in general blames Congress and they all can continue to blame the Democrats for passing the ACA in the first place. and they all can go on pretending to their voters that their "plan" would have fixed the problems with the health care costs if only the "other" side would have cooperated and realize that their side is wrong. What pisses me off is if you don't like the bill then write one that fits your constituents, don't just sit there and do nothing. The bill may be a large terd but there are no excuses for that when you have had time to provide your own bill which you can sign with peace of mind. But we have 1 bill that everyone hates, great job. The Republicans are in charge and if they miss on this they have failed miserably and they deserve to lose their jobs. You don't get to play it safe by just sitting on your ass, I hope Trump goes on a 10 hour Twitter tirade and throws every one of them under the bus. The last thing is if conservative principles are keeping this bill from being "good" then Trump needs to break away and exploit those who are holding up progress. Move to the middle and restructure Obamacare and forget about the Freedom Caucus and the rest of the dinosaurs, he never really was a Republican so I think you pull in Democrats along with moderate Republicans to rewrite Obamacare. Bottom line, Pual Ryan is worthless and so are most of the Republicans when it comes to healthcare. Edited March 24, 2017 by jschuck12001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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