Popeman38 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Gotta go big. Otherwise the Bulls will score 36 second chance points per quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 There are scuffles and little fights all the time in the NBA Chachie. Very few involve suspensions. Blake Griffin gets into something with somebody every other game. I think you're overblowing this. Apparently the league is too. I knew it was coming the second he went for the muay thai clinch. That was the line-crosser. It wasn't a strike but it was clearly violent aggression. No-brainer. Gotta go big. Otherwise the Bulls will score 36 second chance points per quarter. We could use Gooden's 3 pt shooting anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Apparently the league is too. I knew it was coming the second he went for the muay thai clinch. That was the line-crosser. It wasn't a strike but it was clearly violent aggression. No-brainer. He got suspended for head-butting. No brainer in that only someone with no brain could see what happened and consider that a headbutt. If that was a headbutt, then what the **** did Jimmy Butler do if not head butt him back? We got screwed. Congratualtions Adam Silver, king of the **** league. Congratulations Chicago. You're getting all the help you can get from the refs and the league office and your bull**** team is still going to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Did anyone else just hear Shaq call himself "Blackie Chan?" LMAO He got suspended for head-butting. No brainer in that only someone with no brain could see what happened and consider that a headbutt. If that was a headbutt, then what the **** did Jimmy Butler do if not head butt him back?We got screwed. Congratualtions Adam Silver, king of the **** league. Congratulations Chicago. You're getting all the help you can get from the refs and the league office and your bull**** team is still going to lose. I don't think it was the "headbutt" that got him suspended. It was everything after that. We did not get screwed. Not only that but if you look at the footage again, Nene was ready to throw a punch at the very end. He was in fight mode, no question. I hate saying it but this is fair. He simply blew it. The part that enrages me is that Butler wasn't even his man to cover or his cover man. So stupid. So, so dumb. Edited April 26, 2014 by Chachie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 He got suspended for head-butting. No brainer in that only someone with no brain could see what happened and consider that a headbutt. If that was a headbutt, then what the **** did Jimmy Butler do if not head butt him back? We got screwed. Congratualtions Adam Silver, king of the **** league. Congratulations Chicago. You're getting all the help you can get from the refs and the league office and your bull**** team is still going to lose. Who the hell is David Falk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I seem to recall this happening in last year's playoffs, resulting in no ejections or suspensions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMCujsZFZas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 if the wiz won, Nene wouldn't have been suspended. Since the bulls won, the NBA wants this series to go to the max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Did anyone else just hear Shaq call himself "Blackie Chan?" LMAO I don't think it was the "headbutt" that got him suspended. It was everything after that. We did not get screwed. Not only that but if you look at the footage again, Nene was ready to throw a punch at the very end. He was in fight mode, no question. I hate saying it but this is fair. He simply blew it. The part that enrages me is that Butler wasn't even his man to cover or his cover man. So stupid. So, so dumb. I'm seeing it was for headbutting and grabbing Butler. What head butt? The grab was certainly out of line and he got tossed for it, but that **** shouldn't be enough for a suspension. He didn't even hit Butler! Nene should have just elbowed him in the throat. Apparently that's fine. This suspension is pretty damn capricious and absurd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'm seeing it was for headbutting and grabbing Butler. What head butt? The grab was certainly out of line and he got tossed for it, but that **** shouldn't be enough for a suspension. He didn't even hit Butler! Nene should have just elbowed him in the throat. Apparently that's fine. This suspension is pretty damn capricious and absurd. There's no question that players should have been suspended in other situations and it's easy to see that the league wants every series to go 7 games. Essentially, I agree with you in spirit but Nene knows better. Especially when it's a big man picking on a 2-guard. Stupid, stupid spot to put one's self in and it was totally unnecessary. I hope we blow them out tomorrow just to prove a point to the league. "We're for real." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Of course he got suspended. It's the Wizards. This is DC. We can't have nice things people. The sports gods will not allow it. Edited April 26, 2014 by Duckus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I hope the Wizards kick this Butler guys ass up and down the court tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Of course he got suspended. It's the Wizards. This is DC. We can't have nice things people. The sports gods will not allow it. I want nothing more than to be able to change my signature 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I feel good about tomorrow's game. I think it will be a convincing win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Now I'm reading that the suspension was for Nene headbutting Butler and a neck grab in an attempt to throw him down. WTF? They jawed with each other and went head to head, then they separated and Nene grabbed his neck and pulled his head close and said something to him. Then they were separated by teammates and the official. They didn't headbutt each other. If they did, their heads wouldn't have been glued together like they were, there would have been a blow. And when the hell did Nene try and throw Butler to the ground? That is a retarded explanation/interpretation of what happened, it just looks like BS attempt to justify a stupid punishment. I hope the Wizards kick this Butler guys ass up and down the court tomorrow. I'm not mad at Butler. I don't think he or Nene did anything that bad. I'm a little mad that--since what Nene did was considered a headbutt and got him suspended--Butler got off with nothing for "headbutting" him back. Not mad at Butler though, mad at the inconsistency and stupidity of the application of the rules. But I don't care for Joakim Noah's clown show crowing about it after the game. Dude is such a little punk. I hope he gets embarrassed again tomorrow night. Edited April 26, 2014 by stevemcqueen1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 We will win tomorrow. Book it. The headline will read: "Nene who?". I predict Trevor Ariza will have a big game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Nene let himself get taken out of a game. You can't do that in a series where the refs seem to be pulling very strongly for the other team. There's little chance that Washington will get the benefit of the doubt since the league is already trying to weight things Chicago's way. As a leader and savvy vet he should know this. On the other hand, with his bad knee getting an extra day off may be really good for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Steve, go back and rewatch it. Nene most certainly headbutted butler. Butler just did not recoil back from it and their heads stayed tigether. To say that nene just grabbed his neck and pulled him close is blatantly minimizing what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Steve, go back and rewatch it. Nene most certainly headbutted butler. Butler just did not recoil back from it and their heads stayed tigether. To say that nene just grabbed his neck and pulled him close is blatantly minimizing what he did. He was poised to punch too. Quick reachback with fist ready. He's lucky he never got a chance to throw or we'd be cooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) Nene did not simply pull them close. That was a muay thai plum and when he pulled Butlers head down and I thought he was going to do him like Silva did Franklin. Didn't help that he loaded up that right hand as they were getting separated either. Dude played right into what the bulls wanted and gave them a win, and reasons to feel good about getting another. If we lose this series I want Nene gone as fast as possible. Edited April 27, 2014 by Destino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 The ****ing NBA is a joke. Noah is the DPOY so he is allowed to set moving screens and maul people under the basket with no calls. Hinrich did worse to Beal in fame 2 than Nene did to Butler. Noah got head to head with Ariza in game 2. Noah elbowed Arizona in back of his head in game 2. And somehow they have come out unscathed from all of the scraps. Beal gets a foul and double Ts. Arizona and Noah get double Ts. Nene gets thrown out and suspended. Ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRagone Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) I seem to recall this happening in last year's playoffs, resulting in no ejections or suspensions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMCujsZFZas I don't see any strike there, and even the entanglement that led to them going to the ground seemed unintentional. There was some grabbing onto each other on the ground, but that was it. Nene forcefully moved his head through space into the head of Butler. That's a headbutt. Butler then remained contact and pushed back against Nene as Nene pushed forward, that's NOT head butting. A headbutt is a strike, even if it's not a strike with a hand. He may not have headbutted him hard. He may've not done it very forcefully. He may not have had much power behind it. But I can absolutely see why the NBA would classify it as such. Combine the strike with the face he forcefully grabbed Butler in an offensive and purposeful manner, as opposed to what seemed like simple entanglement following a boxing out by the two in the video, which further exacerbated it. Had he not done the headbutt, I think there would've been no suspension. If he had ONLY done the headbutt, I think it may've had a slightly better chance of not being a suspension. But when you do the headbutt, and follow it up with additional aggressive action, it's not surprising the suspension occurred. Edited April 27, 2014 by ZRagone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 FWIW - Jimmy Butler is a good kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Nene did not simply pull them close. That was a muay thai plum and when he pulled Butlers head down and I thought he was going to do him like Silva did Franklin. Didn't help that he loaded up that right hand as they were getting separated either. Dude played right into what the bulls wanted and gave them a win, and reasons to feel good about getting another. If we lose this series I want Nene gone as fast as possible. Amen. You can't have a guy making $14 mil a year, supposed to be a veteran leader, hurt all the damn time, pulling a stunt like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Amen. You can't have a guy making $14 mil a year, supposed to be a veteran leader, hurt all the damn time, pulling a stunt like this. Same dude who called out the younger guys on the team earlier in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I'm done bashing him. He's meant a mint to this young team. Time for us all to get behind Gooden and Harrington and get pumped for tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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