kevinklein Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Holy ****! Just when you think Al Davis couldn't get any stupider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeenzfan Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Wow! 1st rounder...a potential top 5 pick for a player who is on the decline and has been injured? I wish we were making trades like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBig101 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Woah, what a trade. Surprising move(and boneheaded on the part of the Raiders). You think after his current contract expires, Seymour would not resign, and go back to NE and finish off his career there? I could see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Im beginning to believe that Belicheck and the pats have incriminating photos of EVERY owner/GM in the league. WOW!! That is an outright lie. No pics, just vids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTerps26 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 there is no way they would be able to afford vince wilfork and richard seymour next season, so they cut their losses and they literally got an offer they couldn't refuse. no way would they have gotten anything close to that value from any other team. now they can resign wilfork for a fat contract, and probably make tom brady the highest paid player in the league. either way. its a perfect play by the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dominion Monarch 06 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Woah, what a trade. Surprising move(and boneheaded on the part of the Raiders).You think after his current contract expires, Seymour would not resign, and go back to NE and finish off his career there? I could see it. It could definitely happen, and very well may happen. It'd be pretty cold, if it did... but hey that's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Actually, I take back what I said before, having looked at the contract the trade is horrible. Personally, I think Seymour is worth a 1st round pick......if he had 3 or so years left on his contract. BUT, he has only 1 year left on his contract. They have a 0% chance of resigning him. No way he stays in ****ing Oakland. Bad trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 I applaud the Patriots for their ability to sever ties with great players, but this is a suspect move for them. Sure, they will end up with a high pick in two years, but where are they gonna get supplemental production from?Losing a HOF caliber DE when you've set yourself up for a serious title run in '09 seems sketchy to me. There must have been some issues with Seymour and the Pats FO. I am guessing with one year left on his contract, he was getting ready to demand some heavy scratch, and New England was balking at the idea..:2cents: Edit to say: Derrick Burgess is NOT an adequate replacement. Nice read, if he will be 31 ish asking for big money I guess the Pats decided not extend his contract. You have to applaud their long term thinking. Get a high first round pick in two years and lose just one year for a 30 year old player that might not play every game because of injuries. Not saying he will get hurt, but Dline guys don't last as long as other positions. Al Davis has not idea how to think long term or evaluate how good his team really is. What I want to see is what happens when Brady leaves. Having a HOF QB allows you to make gambles like this. Just have to see if the FO can find a high quality QB to replace Brady when he is done. I guess they can use the Raiders first round pick in two years to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotfire Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 2011 draft pick??? First round?????? Why would anybody give up a pick that far in advance? You barely know what your needs will be in 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 This is a very interesting trade on many levels: 1) if you were gearing up for another Super Bowl run, why not keep a solid, valuable veteran DE? Even if you only have that player for one more year, 'you play to win the game' now! This runs counter to so much of Belichik's past history. 2) Kraft is one of the most important and influential owners in the NFL. Is this a signal that the NFL expects to negotiate a new CBA and avoid a work stoppage next year? 3) Following up 2), above, why trade for a 2011 draft pick if you doubt that there will be a CBA in place for that season? There is a labor/management message here. HTTR :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 This will be worse for Al Davis than when Bobby Beathard hosed the Raiders by trading them Jay Schroeder for Jim Lachey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergist Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Man, Are the Raiders just not operating with a Full Deck? I think Al is off his rocker.. Just my .02... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkyDiamonds Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Interesting that basically it's Derrick Burgess and a 1st for Richard Seymour & a 3rd and a 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIXX99 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Man, Are the Raiders just not operating with a Full Deck? I think Al is off his rocker.. Just my .02... This should be in ATN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 This IS in ATN already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 belongs in ATN.... but how do the pats pull off deals like this?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergist Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Sorry, your right.. Please detele.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergist Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 This is like one of those Fantasy Football trades that a league commish would have to Veto because it heavily favors one team over the other. Al Davis needs to be removed as Owner.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFanInTennessee Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 belongs in ATN....but how do the pats pull off deals like this?! Not to prolong this thread, since the OP has asked for it to be deleted, but you asked, so I will answer.. AL DAVIS...that's how... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disegn Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 It's in the wrong place here at the Stadium, but that's a valid point. Al lost his mind a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGhost Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 It's in the wrong place here at the Stadium, but that's a valid point. Al lost his mind a long time ago. dude someone needs to get that old man on some Donepezil and make him chill out... actually, has it been confirmed that al davis is actually alive and that it isn't some 'weekend at bernies' ploy going on in the raiders org? tom cable may just be using him as a scapegoat:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Smith Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Pats fans must be ecstatic; the long-term health of their franchise just got even stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD.C RedskinsFan Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 I really don't like the way that a team such as New England is getting more because of what Oakland has done. Almost as if Oakland is on New England's side or something. 32 people running a race, Oakland has no intention of winning the race so they sabotage the other racers so that New England can get ahead. It's definitely not the same thing but it's along the lines of how I feel about stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rskins91 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Who on our roster can we trade for the Raiders 2010 first round pick? Seriously, there's got to be some way to get a piece of this. Perhaps this will help the Raiders for this year, but for a first rounder? Dumb move, especially since Seymour is entering the twilight of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Anything that embarasses the Raiduhs or Cowboys can stay in the Stadium as far as I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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