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Wikipedia bans Church of Scientology

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By Cade Metz

29 May 2009

Exclusive In an unprecedented effort to crack down on self-serving edits, the Wikipedia supreme court has banned contributions from all IP addresses owned or operated by the Church of Scientology and its associates.

Closing out the longest-running court case in Wikiland history, the site’s Arbitration Committee voted 10 to 0 (with one abstention) in favor of the move, which takes effect immediately.

The eighth most popular site on the web, Wikipedia bills itself as "the free encyclopedia anyone can edit." Administrators frequently ban individual Wikifiddlers for their individual Wikisins. And the site's UK press officer/resident goth once silenced an entire Utah mountain in a bizarre attempt to protect a sockpuppeting ex-BusinessWeek reporter. But according to multiple administrators speaking with The Reg, the muzzling of Scientology IPs marks the first time Wikipedia has officially barred edits from such a high-profile organization for allegedly pushing its own agenda on the site.

The Church of Scientology has not responded to our request for comment.

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not too cool with this. sets a disturbing precedent. yes, perhaps check into the edits/entries by scientologists (and ALL other extremist types), but if wikipedia truly wants to live up to the ideals behind its creation, it will not ban anyone from getting involved.

but, more seriously, the question becomes 'who gets banned next?'

and that is the scary part of this

dont agree with scientology, but this isnt right

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not too cool with this. sets a disturbing precedent. yes, perhaps check into the edits/entries by scientologists (and ALL other extremist types), but if wikipedia truly wants to live up to the ideals behind its creation, it will not ban anyone from getting involved.

but, more seriously, the question becomes 'who gets banned next?'

and that is the scary part of this

dont agree with scientology, but this isnt right

As far as I can tell, Wikipedia is not a publicly funded entity, which means they can do what they want, and I am OK with that.

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As far as I can tell, Wikipedia is not a publicly funded entity, which means they can do what they want, and I am OK with that.

while you are correct, and that is the case legally, on the opening page it says "the free encylopedia that anyone can edit."

yeah they certainlyt have the right to do this, but as i said before i think it seems to go against the very basis of wikipedia's existence.

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Anyone know what the C of S was doing. Were their memebers going around editing the pages of other religious beliefs or were they just updating their own page.

EDIT: nevermind. read the rest of it.

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My biggest feeling on this is that they should know it's not going to work.

From what I understand, the Scientologists have a smear machine that Dick Cheney wishes he had, a legal department that Disney would be afraid of, and a cyber warfare unit that's China wishes they had.

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My biggest feeling on this is that they should know it's not going to work.

From what I understand, the Scientologists have a smear machine that Dick Cheney wishes he had, a legal department that Disney would be afraid of, and a cyber warfare unit that's China wishes they had.

And a Naval Fighter Wing that kicks Russian ass.

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while you are correct, and that is the case legally, on the opening page it says "the free encylopedia that anyone can edit."

yeah they certainlyt have the right to do this, but as i said before i think it seems to go against the very basis of wikipedia's existence.

It depends on what the C of S were doing. Anyone can edit but they have to do so under the guidelines. Wikipedia does not allow corporations creating anything that might be considered promotional, and anything controversial should be backed up up by other independent sources.

If, as I suspect, C of S folks were editing out criticism that was backed by other sources, it's understandable that the custodians of Wiki would stop them.

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while you are correct, and that is the case legally, on the opening page it says "the free encylopedia that anyone can edit."

yeah they certainlyt have the right to do this, but as i said before i think it seems to go against the very basis of wikipedia's existence.

I think there's an unspoken understanding in these sorts of things that those kinds of promises don't extend to those who abuse the privileges.

I don't have a problem with it.

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If, as I suspect, C of S folks were editing out criticism that was backed by other sources, it's understandable that the custodians of Wiki would stop them.

fair enough, but at the same time i would hope that the C of S (or any organization who might eventaully share the same fate) also has a chance to "defend" itself against untrue criticism / invalid fact alterations.

obviously a post something like 'the C of S eats babies and fries household pets' would be changed, but as much as i disagree with the C of S it is still a legit organization and it would be very easy to only slightly change some of their information to make it be shown in a more negative light.

i dont disagree with anything anyone has said in this thread, but i do hope that this situation is monitored very, very closely.

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For once, I'll refrain from stating my opinion on cults that have equal status as the true religions of the world.

i would argue that in order for a belief to be a religion, it only has to be truly believed by a single person. some of the **** out there is bat**** crazy for sure (and id prob include scientology in that catagory), but free religion is free religion.

i dont like some of the things theyve done involving censorship throughout their history, but if someone believes it then not a lot anyone can (or should try to, imo) do as long as they are not infringing on anyone else's rights.

the legality/morality of some of their historical actions is questionable for sure, but i wont fault anone for joining the church if they really identify and connect with it.

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i would argue that in order for a belief to be a religion, it only has to be truly believed by a single person. some of the **** out there is bat**** crazy for sure (and id prob include scientology in that catagory), but free religion is free religion.

So that means supporters of the latest propoganda err Global Warming are in essence religious extremists and their great Satan are those in the US who are Carbon Credit challenged who they must smote.

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not too cool with this. sets a disturbing precedent. yes, perhaps check into the edits/entries by scientologists (and ALL other extremist types), but if wikipedia truly wants to live up to the ideals behind its creation, it will not ban anyone from getting involved.

but, more seriously, the question becomes 'who gets banned next?'

and that is the scary part of this

dont agree with scientology, but this isnt right

seeing the title, I was a bit unsure about it, but having read the specifics I'm actually okay with it.

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So that means supporters of the latest propoganda err Global Warming are in essence religious extremists and their great Satan are those in the US who are Carbon Credit challenged who they must smote.

actually thats not what im saying at all.

yeah you can take my words at the most literal face value possible, but i think its clear that the basis for this part of the discussion is religion. it is the belief in a higher being/presence/power. if someone believes in anything to be as such, i would consider it a religion.

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