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I meant to vote yes, whoops.

Why:

1. I'm a fan of the Washington franchise and it's players, NOT the name. I could care less if they were called the Warriors or the Golden Retrievers. The same coaches and players are still on the team.

2. I often see people spout that the origin of the name was made and allowed by a native american. If that is the case, is that not sterotyping? One random person without delegation does not represent an entire nation of tribes and cultures. I do not represent ALL white people and things I find offensive others will honestly not.

3. I can see how it is offensive. Are white people called "white skins" or black people called "black skins"? Seriously, stop and think about it. That would be offensive to many people. If you say "no, it wouldn't", do you represent everyone of your race and heritage?

4. The franchise didn't even originate in this city. Whenever teams switch cities I think they should change names anyway.

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They haven't. Seven lawyers have. And that's the fact.

They don't represent anyone but themselves. They are not making this complaint in the name of anyone else. There's no class suit, there's no tribal leaders driving this. There's a law firm driving this. For money and publicity.

~Bang

Only 7?

http://www.nativevillage.org/Messages%20from%20the%20People/timeline%20for%20Indian%20Mascots.htm

1968

  • National Congress of American Indians (NCAI) launches campaign to address stereotypes found in print and in other media

1969

  • NA activists at Dartmouth College continue to promote changes in that school's Indians nickname. replaced soon by Big Green

1970

  • University of Oklahoma retires its Little Red mascot that had been traditional since 1940's
  • Protests against Cleveland Indians baseball team - Chief Wahoo - take place in Cleveland.

1971

  • Marquette University (MI) abandons its Willie Wampum mascot. Prior to the 1994 season, the MU changed Warriors to Golden Eagles.

1972

  • A petition by AI students at Stanford University results in the school dropping Indian sports team nickname and logos.
  • Dickinson State (ND) changes from the Savages to the Blue Hawks.
  • Increasing efforts begun in the 1960's, First Nations students at the University of North Dakota (UND) take steps to retire the school's Fighting Sioux nickname.

1979

  • Syracuse University (NY) did away with Saltine Warrior mascot.
  • St Bonaventure, NY, retired it's Brown Indians and Brown Squaws sports team mascots.

1980

  • Southern Oregon University ends a tradition begun in 1950 when its Red Raiders sports teams cease using several depictions of Indian chiefs as mascots and symbolic logos for sporting events

1988

  • The Michigan State Civil Rights commission issues a report on nicknames, logos, and mascots depicting NA people in Michigan education institutions
  • Minnesota State Board of Education adopts a resolution stating that "the use of mascots, emblems, or symbols depicting American Indian culture or race (is) unacceptable." and encourages all districts to immediately proceed to remove such mascots.
  • Public schools in Wisconsin begin to change their American Indian related sports team logos, mascots, and nicknames. As of 1998, 21 schools - almost 1/3 - of the total using such icons, had changed.
  • Siena College in NY drops Indians - are now Saints.
  • Saint Mary's college (MN) changes from Red Men to the Cardinals.

1989

  • Charlene Teters, NA graduate student attending University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, initiates efforts to eliminate that school's Chief Illiniwek.

1991

  • Nebraska Commission on Indian Affairs requests 27 public schools in that state to end their use of American Indian names and mascots.
  • The National Education Associate (NEA) the largest educational organization of its kind in the world, passes resolutions in 2 consecutive years (91/92) denouncing the use of ethnic related sports team mascots, symbols, and nicknames.
  • Eastern Michigan University changes its Huron nickname to Eagles.
  • Advocates protest at the Minneapolis Metrodome where Superbowl XXVI found the Buffalo Bills pitted aginst Washington Redskins.

1992

  • Seven Native Americans filed a lawsuit against the Washington Redskins football club and petitioned the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office for cancellation of federal registrations for Redskins and Redskinettes...and associated names of the team in the nation's capital.
  • Portland Oregonian announces it will no longer use the word "Redskins" and several other American Indian related terms in print.
  • Radio stations WASH and WTOP in Washington DC also adopt similar policies.
  • Simpson college, drops its Redmen and Lady Reds to Storm.
  • Despite a lawsuit and over 2000 signatures signed in protest, Naperville Central High School (IL) switches its nickname from Redskins to Redhawks. Grand Forks Central High School (ND) changes its sports teams' nickname from Redskins to Knights.

1993

  • National Congress of American Indians issues a resolution which "denounces the use of any American Indian name or artifice associated with team mascots."
  • Arvada High School, near Denver Col, drops its Redskins sports team nickname

1994

  • The State of Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction issues a directive "strongly urging" all Wisconsin schools using American Indian related mascots to discontinue such uses.
  • Enumclaw Junior High School (WA) dropped its "Chieftain" mascot.
  • Hartwick College in Oneonta, New York, exchanged it's "Warriors" nickname for "Hawks."
  • As a show of appreciate for having changed its "Indian" mascot, Park High school in Cottage Grove, Minnesota, is awarded $10,000 by the Prairie Island Mdewakanton Sioux Community.
  • Prior to the 1994-95 season Marquette University retired its "Warriors" nickname in favor of "Golden Eagles."

1995

  • St. John's, the largest Catholic university in America, drops its "Redmen" nickname in favor of "Redstorm."

1996

  • University of Tennessee at Chattanooga discontinues the use of its "Chief Moccanooga" mascot. The following year the team's "Moccasins" nickname was shortened to "Mocs" in reference to Tennessee's state bird, the Mockingbird.
  • Miami University of Ohio (Oxford, OH) drops its "Redskins" nickname.
  • The Toronto Bluejays triple-A farm team in Syracuse, NY, heeds concerns expressed by advocates and changes its nickname from the "Chiefs" to the "Skychiefs."
  • Hull Western Christian school in Hull, Iowa, is honored by the Sioux City Human Rights Commission for retiring the school's "Indians" mascot/logo.
  • In a process that began in 1995, Adams State University (Alamosa, CO) changes its mascot from an "Indian" to a "Grizzly."
  • Newtown High School in Sandy Hook, Connecticut drops its "Indians" nickname in favor of the "Nighthawks."
  • The United Methodist Church takes an official stance Concerning Demeaning Names to Native Americans as well as on other related topics.
  • Fremont High School in Sunnyvale, California, changed its mascot from "Indians" to "Firebirds"
  • Students at Hortonville, Wisconsin, adopt a non-recognition policy stating their school will not use cheers, names, etc., related to "Indian" sports team tokens employed by opposing teams.

1997

  • Jay Rosenstein's documentary "In Whose Honor" is aired nationally on the Public Broadcasting System TV show "Point of View." Mr. Rosenstein's film highlights Charlene Teters' efforts to eliminate the "Chief Illiniwek" mascot used by the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
  • The Board of Education for the Los Angeles, California consolidated school district moves to eliminate "Indian" related mascots from four schools in its jurisdiction.
  • The minor league Canton-Akron "Indians" rename themselves the Akron "Aeros" and boost their merchandise sales from $60,000 to $1.2 million, the largest merchandise income of any minor league team.

1998

  • Yakima College (Washington State) respects concerns expressed by its American Indian community and elects to retire the institution's race-related mascot.
  • The Kansas Association for Native American Education (KANAE) issues a resolution that "...calls for the elimination of use of American Indian mascots and logos in all public and private schools in the State of Kansas..."
  • The American Jewish Committee approves a statement on team names which notes it "deplores and opposes the use of racial or ethnic stereotypes in the names or titles of business, professional, sport or their public entitles when the affected group has not chosen the name itself."
  • Approximately 200 anti-"Indian" mascot activists from around the country converge at the University of Illinois, Champaign-Urbana for the first national Conference on the Elimination of Racist Mascots.
  • A federal judge upholds the Los Angles consolidated school board's 1997 decision to eliminate several "Indian" related mascots and nicknames from its district.
  • Southern Nazarene University, a small Christian school in Bethany, Oklahoma, retires its "Redskins" nickname in favor of "Crimson Storm."
  • New York State Education Department Commissioner directs his staff to undertake a statewide review of public schools using American Indian related sports team tokens.
  • Despite personal hardships faced by a White Mountain Apache student and his family, a bitter five year struggle at a public school in Medford, Wisconsin ends victoriously when the school is compelled to drop its "Screaming Indian with Mohawk haircut" logo.
  • Oregon's Chemeketa Community College drops its "Chiefs" nickname and selects "Storm" for its new one. Since the 1970s, twenty high schools in Oregon have also changed their "Indian" related nicknames and mascots.
  • National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) Minority Opportunities and Interests Committee concludes that "Indian mascots that promote Indian caricatures and mimic ceremonial rites do not comply with the NCAA's commitment to ethnic student welfare."
  • Following a complaint made by the program manager for American Indian Education, 10 public schools in Dallas, Texas, make plans to retire their respective "Indian" mascots by the end of the 1998-99 school year.
  • Oklahoma City University, a college affiliated with the United Methodist Church, decides to replace its "Chiefs" nickname dating back to 1944.
  • Morningside College of Sioux City, Iowa, changes its nickname from the "Maroon Chiefs" to the Mustangs.

1999

  • The Great Lakes Inter-Tribal Council, a consortium of twelve federally recognized Indian tribes, issues a resolution calling for the end of "the use of depictions of and cultural references to American Indians as mascots, logos, and team nicknames in Wisconsin public schools."
  • Erwin High school in Asheville, NC is investigated for discrimination by the United States Department of Justice because of its "Indian" related nicknames and mascot.
  • A panel in Utah decides that the word "Redskins" is a derogatory term and forbids its use on motor vehicle license plates.
  • Citing educational concerns about misinterpretations of the crayon color's name, Crayola announces plans to change "indian red" to something less ambiguous.
  • A landmark victory concludes a legal battle begun in 1992 as a three-judge panel of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office rules that the term "Redskins" is a term disparaging to Native Americans and tends to bring them "into contempt or disrepute." The decision has the potential to strip the Washington NFL team of trademark protections.
  • Millard South High in Omaha, Nebraska, one of the largest schools in the state, graciously decides to change its "Indians" spirit symbol.
  • Following the lead of its Champaign-Urbana branch, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) unanimously approves a second mascot resolution.
  • Detailing a number of important points and concerns, The Nebraska Commission on Indian Affairs issues a mascot resolution.
  • Appalled by the University of Illinois, Champaign-Urbana's use of a stereotypic "Indian" mascot the prestigious Society for the Study of the Indigenous Languages of the Americas offers a formal position on Illiniwek.
  • Following almost ten years of controversy, a high school in Milton, Wisconsin, retires its "Redmen" nickname.
  • The U.S. Census Bureau adopts a policy on non-use of Athletic Teams with American Indian or Alaska Native Names in Promoting Census 2000
  • In an poll conducted by the National Spectator's Association, 60% of respondents indicate they want the "Wahoo" logo of the Cleveland Major League Baseball team to be changed.
  • Research conducted by a college professor debunks the myth that the Cleveland MLB team was named in "honor" of Louis Sockalexis, one of the first Native Americans to play for that club.
  • Rickards High in Florida wisely decides to retire its 40 year old "Redskins" nickname.
  • Oklahoma City University finalizes plans to change its "Chiefs" nickname to "Stars."
  • ESPN airs a special program on Native Americans in sports and which contains a segment on the mascot issue. Follow-up coverage included an insightful online chat session with leading advocate, Suzan Shown Harjo.
  • The Society of Indian Psychologists of the Americans issues a position statement that receives recognition in a publication of the prestigious American Psychological Association.
  • The main Cleveland area public library enacts a dress code that prohibits its 700 employees from wearing garments bearing "Wahoo" images.
  • Ten schools in the Dallas, Texas, area follow through on a 1997 decision to change their "Indian" sports team tokens.
  • The Hutchinson Human Relations Commission, Hutchinson Kansas, issues a resolution

2000

  • Hendrix College in Arkansas retires its stereotypic "Indian-head" logo while retaining its "Warriors" nickname.
  • Seattle University, a Jesuit school in Washington State, completes its transition from the "Chieftains" to the "Redhawks."
  • Frontier High School in Deerfield, Massachusetts, changes it "Redskins" nickname.
  • Niles West High School in Skokie, Illinois, retires its "Indians" nickname.
  • Onteora High School in Boiceville, New York, retires its "Indians" nickname and other related practices only to see reactionary school board candidates win seats and reinstate the school's "Indian" sports team token. The district is believed to be the first in the country to repeal an anti-discrimination policy in order to keep its racial icon.
  • Hiawatha, Kansas, retires the "Redskins" nickname from all schools in its district.
  • The Canajoharie school district in New York state retires use of the "Redskins" nickname.

2001

  • Saranac Lake, New York, retires the "Redskins" nickname from all schools in its district.
  • After failing to take action on an appeal that was filed five years earlier, the New York State Education Department calls for the retirement of institutionalized "Indian" sports team nicknames, mascots, and logos from its public schools.
  • The school board for Penfield High School, near Rochester, NY, displays a healing gesture and votes 7-0 to retire the school's "Chiefs" sports team token.
  • Sagamore Hills Elementary school in Atlanta, Georgia, decides it will no longer use a "Chiefs" mascot and prepares to consider alternative ways of showing support for that city's MLB team besides school-wide "tomahawk chops" and war chants.
  • By the unanimous vote of its school board, Afton, NY, public schools exhibits good judgment and retires its "Indians" mascot.
  • In an action that removes all doubt about the seriousness of concerns surrounding the use of "Indian" sports team tokens, The United States Commission on Civil Rights issues a position statement calling for educational institutions to avoid use of such ethnic nicknames and mascots.
  • Parsipanny High School in Parsipanny, NJ, exhibits courageous vision by retiring its racial slur "Redskins" nickname.
  • Following its President's recommendation, along with support from coaches and student government leaders, Southwestern College in Chula Vista, California, wisely elects to change its "Apaches" mascot to "Jaguars."
  • The Bell-Chatham board of education in Illinois votes in favor of retiring the "Redskins"and "Braves" nicknames used by its schools.
  • Illinois Valley Community College in Oglesby, Illinois, retires its "Apaches" nickname and provides a good example that the University of Illinois, Champaign-Urbana and other institutions using "Indian" sports team tokens would do well to follow.
  • Advocates from across the country convene at the Northern Plains Conference on American Indian Team Names and Logos held at the University of North Dakota, Grand Forks.
  • The Minnesota Indian Education Association adopts a resolution in opposition to the University of North Dakota's use of the "Fighting Sioux" name and logo.
  • Irondequoit High School, near Rochester, New York, makes plans to replace its "Indians" nickname.
  • The Modern Language Association passes a resolution on mascots and symbols. The MLA includes over 30,000 members in the fields of English, foreign languages, and linguistics.
  • The Quinnipiac University Board of Trustees Votes To Discontinue Use of 'The Braves' Nickname
  • Cumberland College in Williamsburg, Kentucky, changes it's "Indian" themed mascot to "Patriots."
  • Stating the district will not use any mascot that reflects any identifiable group by age, race, color, gender, religion or national origin, the District 87 school board voted to retire Bloomington High School's (Illinois) American Indian mascot. BHS kept the Purple Raiders nickname.

2002

  • The Iowa Civil Rights Commission passed a Resolution Opposing the Use of Native American Images, Mascots, and Team Names in Iowa
  • The Durham (North Carolina) franchise in the summer collegiate Coastal Plain League changed its nickname from Braves to Americans. The Minnesota State Colleges and Universities Board adopted a resolution against discriminatory logos, names, mascots and nicknames
  • West High School in Oshkosh Wisconsin retired its "Indian" themed mascot.
  • Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts decided its sports teams will no longer be known as Mohawks.
  • New Hampshire State Board of Education unanimously approved a resolution calling for local school districts to stop using American Indian sports mascots.
  • Southeastern Community College, in West Burlington, Iowa, makes a smart and painless change by dropping the "Indian" association to its "Blackhawk" nickname and changing it to reflect a bird of prey, the "Black Hawks."
  • Martin Methodist College in Pulaski, Tennessee, changed its sports team nickname from "Indians" to "Redhawks"

2003

  • Joining the ranks of other newspapers that have also adopted similar guidelines the Nebraska Journal Star newspaper amends its style and, along with other related changes, will no long print the "Redskins" racial slur.
  • The Telegraph-Forum, a newspaper in Central Ohio, discontinues its use of "Chief Wahoo."
  • The Michigan State Board of Education passes a resolution that "supports and strongly recommends the elimination of American Indian mascots, nicknames, logos, fight songs, insignias, antics, and team descriptors by all Michigan schools."
  • The Peoria Chiefs, a minor league affiliate of the Chicago Cubs, changes it logo from an American Indian to a Dalmatian fire chief.

It seems that there is a large group of people who want these names changed. True, this particular lawsuit was filed by the seven people you name, but I'm willing to bet almost anything that there are more than seven people offended by the term "Redskins".

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I meant to vote yes, whoops.

Why:

4. The franchise didn't even originate in this city. Whenever teams switch cities I think they should change names anyway.

We started out in 1932 as the Boston BRAVES and in 1937 George Preston Marshall moved the team to D.C and then changed the name....so it wasn't like we picked the name out of thin air...Braves/Redskins...what's next Jeep re-names the Cheerokee the Warrior or the Jeep Chief Big Wheel?

just sayin. This world is becoming more PC by the second.

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Once the name gets changed what will be next? Will they ban wearing REDSKINS merchandise in public? It just seems all so trivial to me. Yeah, change the name, there's still gonna be a ****load of people during football season all over the country that proudly wear the team name REDSKINS all over their bodies and there isn't a damn thing that anyone can do to change that.

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Once the name gets changed what will be next? Will they ban wearing REDSKINS merchandise in public? It just seems all so trivial to me. Yeah, change the name, there's still gonna be a ****load of people during football season all over the country that proudly wear the team name REDSKINS all over their bodies and there isn't a damn thing that anyone can do to change that.

That could depend on if they're forced to change it, or if its done so willingly.

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Only 7?

http://www.nativevillage.org/Messages%20from%20the%20People/timeline%20for%20Indian%20Mascots.htm

It seems that there is a large group of people who want these names changed. True, this particular lawsuit was filed by the seven people you name, but I'm willing to bet almost anything that there are more than seven people offended by the term "Redskins".

It's one thing for a highschool board of directors or a the college level board of supervisors to "Volunteer" to change a mascot or refrain from war cries, but until the courts say so the Major league franchises will not change...the BRAVES, INDIANS, CHIEFS, REDSKINS & BLACKHAWKS will keep the names that made them famous... but I do see your point that this is very big issue for the Native American community and not just centered around the Redskins themselves.

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OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I may have to bring out the BIG GUNS on this issue!!!

On May 31st I am moving from Phoenix to Colorado....

In Northern Arizona on the Navajo Indian Reservation along highway 160 there is a Jr High School with REDSKINS as it's team name and mascot!!! I am going to video tape this and put it on YouTube.

Think about this for a moment...WHY on EARTH would the Navajo Indian Reservation use a name that they felt was offensive for the Jr High School????????????????

I know for the most part I am preaching to the choir here but there are few issues that make my blood boil than this one!

I actually have a picture of this school on my phone and will try to transfer it to my PC and post here.

ONce I have this video loaded on YouTube I will post the link here on ES...it will be the first week in June.

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Only 7?

http://www.nativevillage.org/Messages%20from%20the%20People/timeline%20for%20Indian%20Mascots.htm

It seems that there is a large group of people who want these names changed. True, this particular lawsuit was filed by the seven people you name, but I'm willing to bet almost anything that there are more than seven people offended by the term "Redskins".

Poll after poll after poll has been taken on this, and the people it supposedly offends consistently say it's not offensive. If they aren't offended, are we to be offended on principal? That doesn't seem to make much sense.

This is grandstanding by seven activists and their lawyers.

Check the actual petition.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/15/AR2009051501747.html

"The dispute started in 1992, when seven Native American activists challenged the trademarks in the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. "

They're who is suing. Other folks who willfully change their names do so on their own, but since the people that aren't represented by these seven activists don't seem to be offended, I don't see why we should make a big deal over it.

do you think it was right for the Illinois Illini to change their symbol and the true-to-culture dance he would do at halftime of their games? It was a pure honor, and yet to appease the principal of an offense that shouldn't have been there, they stopped.

Like I said, if it was more than a few people out for money and reputation, I'd be much more sympathetic. But this is just an angry group and their lawyers trying to make themselves a name.

~Bang

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They haven't. Seven lawyers have. And that's the fact.

They don't represent anyone but themselves. They are not making this complaint in the name of anyone else. There's no class suit, there's no tribal leaders driving this. There's a law firm driving this. For money and publicity.

~Bang

This woman is the driving force behind the name chage has been and will continue to be.

When an activist for American Indian rights meets fans who insist that the Washington Redskins' name is not racist, look out. Throw in a few mean-spirited people who are ignorant of Native American issues, and the debate gets even more gritty.

Yet, that's reality when it comes to the issue of Native American mascot names in the United States.

Below is a transcript of a chat session between Suzan Shown Harjo and ESPN.com users on Nov. 17, which was conducted as part of the Outside the Lines series on Native Americans and sports:

Harjo's bio

Suzan Shown Harjo is president and executive director of The Morning Star Institute, a national, non-profit Indian rights organization for Native Peoples' traditional and cultural advocacy, arts promotion and research.

Founded in 1984 and headquartered in Washington, D.C., Morning Star is the sponsoring organization for a lawsuit regarding trademarks of the Washington Redskins. The case was filed before the U.S. Patent and Trademark Board in September of 1992 by seven prominent Native Americans.

They won earlier this year, on April 2, when a three-judge panel unanimously decided to cancel federal protections for the team's name because it "may disparage Native Americans and may bring them into contempt or disrepute." New Redskins owner Daniel Snyder has said he has no interest in changing the team's name.

Harjo is Cheyenne and Hodulgee Muscogee, and a citizen of the Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes of Oklahoma. She is the great-great-granddaughter of Chief Bull Bear, who was a Cheyenne Peace Chief, a Dog Men Society Chief, the first signatory of the Medicine Lodge Creek Treaty and a leader of the Cheyenne resistance for the latter half of the 1800s.

Snce 1975, Harjo has developed key federal policy and law regarding issues important to Native Americans.

Mn Ojibwe: Mii-gwech for standing up. Especially towards the federal governmnent. Hopefully, we'll have more young people like myself trying to follow the lead paved by our elders into the future.

Suzan Shown Harjo: You make me confident about the future. Mi-gwetch!

Kevin S.: Why did you sue the Redskins and not the Braves?

Suzan Shown Harjo: Because the r-word is the most derogatory thing Native Peoples can be called in the English language.

Harry: Don't you think that this is a pretty petty thing to be nagging about? Aren't there bigger issues out there in the world today than name-calling?

Continues..........

http://espn.go.com/otl/americans/harjochat.html

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Suzan Shown Harjo: Because the r-word is the most derogatory thing Native Peoples can be called in the English language.

No it isn't. Not even close. I must say, I find prairie n***** much much more offensive and derogatory, thank you very much. Stupid uppity people make me puke.

And that is only the start of the racial slurs I've had used against me.

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While I don't want the Redskins name changed because it's what I know the team as, I do acknowledge that it's a racist term and that for all intents and purposes, it should be changed. Some many high schools (including my own) have been forced to change their names because they referred to the Native Americans in what was deemed a racist way. Specifically, my school was known as the "Indians" and we had a logo similar to the Redskins, so we were honoring their warrior spirit, just like the Redskins. However, despite this, we were forced to change our names to the "Falcons".

While I still am a bit angry about it to this day, I do know it had to be done and if high schools are losing their names like this, it's only fair for pro sports teams like the Cleveland Indians or Redskins to eventually change their names, as much as I dislike this idea. :(

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