Kosher Ham Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Had a great time at Ocean City over the weekend, although man some people are really burdensome to travel with... Don't take sand to the beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr. Sinister said: I actually agree with Larry (in a way) "95% of the oceans are still waiting to be discovered". "Discovered" implies found. Found requires the bare minimum of observation. We've discovered/found every ocean on this planet. English is one of those languages that you have to be very careful nitpicking the exact definition of. Checked out a couple non wiki sources, this is what Oxford says: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/discover Find unexpectedly or during a search. ‘firemen discovered a body in the debris’ ‘she discovered her lover in the arms of another woman’ 1.1 Become aware of (a fact or situation) ‘the courage to discover the truth and possibly be disappointed’ with clause ‘it was a relief to discover that he wasn't in’ 1.2 Be the first to find or observe (a place, substance, or scientific phenomenon) ‘Fleming discovered penicillin early in the twentieth century’ Yes, a lot of definitions involve finding for the first time, but in the context of the statement and flexibility of the word (that last one sounds a lot like explore in regards to observation), saying there's 95% of the ocean waiting to be directly observed adds up. It was jus the other day we found what many are calling the 8th continent where New Zeland is, so whatever mapping we thought we did we missed an entire continent. We also just found a coral reef the size of Deleware off the coast of Charleston. https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2018/08/28/scientists-discovered-coral-reef-almost-long-delaware-hidden-off-coast-charleston/ We may have discovered the oceans, but there's still plenty more to discover about them. We shouldn't be looking at the statement as not finding all the oceans because that's not what that was meant at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: English is one of those languages that you have to be very careful nitpicking the exact definition of. Checked out a couple non wiki sources, this is what Oxford says: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/discover Find unexpectedly or during a search. ‘firemen discovered a body in the debris’ ‘she discovered her lover in the arms of another woman’ 1.1 Become aware of (a fact or situation) ‘the courage to discover the truth and possibly be disappointed’ with clause ‘it was a relief to discover that he wasn't in’ 1.2 Be the first to find or observe (a place, substance, or scientific phenomenon) ‘Fleming discovered penicillin early in the twentieth century’ Yes, a lot of definitions involve finding for the first time, but in the context of the statement and flexibility of the word (that last one sounds a lot like explore in regards to observation), saying there's 95% of the ocean waiting to be directly observed adds up. It was jus the other day we found what many are calling the 8th continent where New Zeland is, so whatever mapping we thought we did we missed an entire continent. We also just found a coral reef the size of Deleware off the coast of Charleston. https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2018/08/28/scientists-discovered-coral-reef-almost-long-delaware-hidden-off-coast-charleston/ We may have discovered the oceans, but there's still plenty more to discover about them. We shouldn't be looking at the statement as not finding all the oceans because that's not what that was meant at all. I agree that's not what was meant, and that much should have been obvious. But it was poorly written. They should have described it to better state 95% of our oceans are unexplored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, China said: I agree that's not what was meant, and that much should have been obvious. But it was poorly written. They should have described it to better state 95% of our oceans are unexplored. Symantics at that point, I gave this the family test, they all laughed and kept it moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Symantics at that point, I gave this the family test, they all laughed and kept it moving. They were laughing at you, not with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 44 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: English is one of those languages that you have to be very careful nitpicking the exact definition of. Is this an accusation, or a general statement? It's not clear to me, considering your acknowledgement in the next paragraph pertaining to the many examples that support the definition. Quote Checked out a couple non wiki sources, this is what Oxford says: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/discover Find unexpectedly or during a search. ‘firemen discovered a body in the debris’ ‘she discovered her lover in the arms of another woman’ 1.1 Become aware of (a fact or situation) ‘the courage to discover the truth and possibly be disappointed’ with clause ‘it was a relief to discover that he wasn't in’ 1.2 Be the first to find or observe (a place, substance, or scientific phenomenon) ‘Fleming discovered penicillin early in the twentieth century’ Yes, a lot of definitions involve finding for the first time, but in the context of the statement and flexibility of the word (that last one sounds a lot like explore in regards to observation), saying there's 95% of the ocean waiting to be directly observed adds up. Question: Can you observe something without exploring it? Let's go back to that Oxford dictionary... en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/observe Only one of those examples seems to imply anything remotely resembling "Exploration," which would lead me to say "Yes," which causes me to render the notion (in your opinion) of the flexibility of the word "Discover" rather inconclusive in my opinion. Quote saying there's 95% of the ocean waiting to be directly observed adds up. It was jus the other day we found what many are calling the 8th continent where New Zeland is, so whatever mapping we thought we did we missed an entire continent. We also just found a coral reef the size of Deleware off the coast of Charleston. https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2018/08/28/scientists-discovered-coral-reef-almost-long-delaware-hidden-off-coast-charleston/ We may have discovered the oceans, but there's still plenty more to discover about them. We shouldn't be looking at the statement as not finding all the oceans because that's not what that was meant at all. Problem is that the quote wasn't "95% of the ocean hasnt been directly observed" (which is your interpretation of their meaning). They said "Discovered." That is where the hang up is. I am not looking at the statement in any way other than exactly what they said. I enjoy science, space, etc, but I also believe there is a higher standard that had to be set when talking about certain subjects, because the true meaning can easily be lost on people, leaving us all to assign our own interpretation as to what we think they really meant. That is why I said that "In a way," I get what Larry is saying. I don't believe for a second that their statement is about not discovering all the oceans, but when you literally look at what they've said or written, it doesn't come across that way, and thats when things can get troublesome, especially when terms like discover, explore, etc can be so loosely applied sometimes (as I tried to illustrate in my initial post). I think it's the one realm where as little as possible should be left to interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Kosher Ham said: Don't take sand to the beach. Damn, that's actually very appropriate and a pretty awesome metaphor "lolol" But yeah, the dude wasn't even really invited per se, he kinda just overheard we were going and decided to tag along. Hate people like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Kosher Ham said: They were laughing at you, not with you. Nope, at yall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 There's always someone laughing at all of us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. Sinister said: I think it's the one realm where as little as possible should be left to interpretation. I'll have to think about that, makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I got lit with the fam. Everyone loves me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said: I got lit with the fam. Everyone loves me They were just picking you up off the floor, dude...again. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said: Everyone loves me Probably because they're scared you might go all Abomination on em if they say anything else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just saw searching. What an amazing movie using different forms of technology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 https://imgur.com/a/4N6o3Jy a guy with a Brazilian and Neymar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Mr. Sinister said: There's always someone laughing at all of us... Yeah, it’s good to have Jumbo back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Anyone here ever rent a food truck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 So mother-in-law's dog, the one that bit my SIL's kid and 2 of my 3 kids bit another grandkid over the weekend. 4 total if you're keeping track at home. This happened in the morning and they said she was gone by that evening (given away). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Slept 10 hours. Feeling good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TradeTheBeal! Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 When I’m not dispensing pure Death Metal Fury, I look to get smooth with some Neo-Soul 80s worship. This is very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Sinister Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I was a helper once during peak season during my early college days at UPS. We rolled up to this one driveway, and one of the biggest dogs I'd ever seen was stalking it, waiting for us. Might as well have been a bear. That was a maneater (watch out boy, she'll chew you up [sax riff]) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 32 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: I was a helper once during peak season during my early college days at UPS. We rolled up to this one driveway, and one of the biggest dogs I'd ever seen was stalking it, waiting for us. Might as well have been a bear. That was a maneater (watch out boy, she'll chew you up [sax riff]) What'd you do? I mean, that dog probably treats pepper spray as seasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Elessar78 said: What'd you do? I mean, that dog probably treats pepper spray as seasoning. Homeowner met us. Barely had to leave the package car. If it got crazy would've had to take the L and hope to survive to get a fat paycheck, or find a quick detour. Talked with a lot of dude's back then, and whether it's delivering to properties with killer dogs, deliveries in the hood (one driver literally witnessed a drug deal gone bad and a guy got shot up), its all part of the game. Part of why those guys carry home a nice paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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