Voice_of_Reason Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 29 minutes ago, HigSkin said: https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ron-cook/2024/01/10/adam-schefter-jay-glazer-reports-art-rooney-ii/stories/202401100039 A new leadership voice would benefit the Steelers. Their marriage with Tomlin has lasted 17 years, an eternity in the NFL. Hall of Fame coach Bill Walsh once said no coach should stay longer than 10 years with one team, that the coach’s message gets tired and stale. That’s an idiotic take from a Pittsburg reporter. FWIW, the Steelers have had 3 coaches in their history, each for more than 10 years, and each with SB rings. The Tomlin hate is just absolutely absurd. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: FWIW, the Steelers have had 3 coaches in their history, each for more than 10 years, and each with SB rings. Come on now. They've been around since the 30's. Are you telling me that Noll coached them for almost 60 seasons? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, SkinsFTW said: Come on now. They've been around since the 30's. Are you telling me that Noll coached them for almost 60 seasons? Wasn't as stressful when he coached in the 30s....no internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearfeather Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, SkinsFTW said: Come on now. They've been around since the 30's. Are you telling me that Noll coached them for almost 60 seasons? He meant three coaches since 1969.😁 I think his point is still good, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre The Giant Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I’m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RVAskins Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, OtisDriftwood25 said: To be honest Saban can make 5 million dollars sitting on ESPN for 4 months doing college gameday. If he does have the love of football and the itch to coach NFL is so much easier. You don’t have to recruit year round and go into kids living rooms. And you still get to play golf like Spurrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 29 minutes ago, RWJ said: I think they should let the men they pay do their jobs. When it comes to firing and hiring, Ok. Not making FB decisions. JMO. Bud. I think the difference now is that you won’t have a petulant child entering the draft room telling the scouts he doesn’t care who they want…pick my guy. Josh appears to be a very savvy and experienced sports owner who knows what he doesn’t know. Point being, they are going to go with who his NFL experts tell him they should go with. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Maybe Saban retired to take the Atlanta Falcons job. It's not a long distance from where he's already at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Commander PK said: I think the difference now is that you won’t have a petulant child entering the draft room telling the scouts he doesn’t care who they want…pick my guy. Josh appears to be a very savvy and experienced sports owner who knows what he doesn’t know. Point being, they are going to go with who his NFL experts tell him they should go with. We will find out in the future how involved Harris will be. Jack Kent Cooke stayed out and let Bobby and Joe do their jobs. I like that style. To each their own though. I get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazedSkinsfan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 The big question now is where does Pete Carroll end up. Reading the reports they say he might stay on in some capacity but we all know that's not happening. Does he stay in the league or take another shot at the college level?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan66 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, SkinsFTW said: Maybe Saban retired to take the Atlanta Falcons job. It's not a long distance from where he's already at. Didn't Sabin quit on the dolphins in mid season and was not doing a very good job in the NFL. It's not as easy to win when you cannot get all the top prospects that you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Spearfeather said: How does Andy Reid get left out of this dinosaur category? He's not a dinosaur, he's a walrus. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazedSkinsfan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, skinsfan66 said: Didn't Sabin quit on the dolphins in mid season and was not doing a very good job in the NFL. It's not as easy to win when you cannot get all the top prospects that you want. If my memory serves me right I believe he finished out the season in Miami. I think the drama with all that was when he told the media he was 100% committed to the Dolphins and right after the season he took the Bama job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 4 minutes ago, skinsfan66 said: Didn't Sabin quit on the dolphins in mid season and was not doing a very good job in the NFL. It's not as easy to win when you cannot get all the top prospects that you want. Yes he quit while still under contract, but now the NIL probably makes him hate recruiting new players. The NFL is much easier in that respect but he's 72 and probably done. Was just saying, he didn't announce this when he lost over a week ago, he waited until just a couple days after the Falcons fired Smith. Edited January 11 by SkinsFTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, RWJ said: Owner involvement never works. Let your VP of FB OPS and a GM and HC do their job. Jerry Jones would like a word with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 57 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: The owner is always going to be involved to some extent. You dont spend 6 billion dollars to own a company and have no input at all. Exactly. Hes gonna wanna know who his franchise QB is. But Harris wont be the one deciding to draft one and if so, who. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazedSkinsfan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, SkinsFTW said: Yes he quit while still under contract, but now the NIL probably makes him hate recruiting new players. The NFL is much easier in that respect but he's 72 and probably done. Was just saying, he didn't announce this when he lost over a week ago, he waited until just a couple days after the Falcons fired Smith. I didn't think about that with the timing of the Falcons opening but now you got me wondering lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, RVAskins said: Jerry Jones would like a word with you. Hey Jerrah! Dial the digits and let's get with it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Tomlin is not a dinosaur, damn it. He’s 51. He just got his first HC job when he was in diapers. He’s GenX. And I’m not just saying that because if he’s a dinosaur then I’m a dinosaur. He’s 4 years older than me. Kyle Shanahan is 44. Not that much younger. FWIW, John Harbaugh is 61. Dan Campbell is 47. He is perceived younger because he just got his first HC job 3 years ago. But he’s only 4 years younger than Tomlin. Wow....I guess you all can come visit my new enclosure at Jurassic Park. I will ensure that for all ES'ers, there will be a "coupon day". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, RabidFan said: Wow....I guess you all can come visit my new enclosure at Jurassic Park. I will ensure that for all ES'ers, there will be a "coupon day". Hey RF. Make sure there is plenty of prime rib and lobster. Capice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, RWJ said: Hey RF. Make sure there is plenty of prime rib and lobster. Capice? and the best ice cream imaginable.....spare no expense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, RabidFan said: and the best ice cream imaginable.....spare no expense. Toppings too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, RWJ said: Toppings too? more like droppings. can everyone tell we are dying for some VPOFO/GM news? thought I'll go back and forth on music/movies/pop culture all day long. Hopefully we hear by Friday of a hire and then onto the HCs after the playoff games this weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Andre The Giant said: I’m The Commanders’ search for a top executive has focused primarily on five candidates: Peters, Kansas City Chiefs assistant GM Mike Borgonzi, Cleveland Browns assistant GM and vice president of player personnel Glenn Cook, Philadelphia Eagles assistant GM Alec Halaby and Chicago Bears assistant GM Ian Cunningham, according to multiple people with knowledge of the process. Borgonzi, Cook and Peters underwent a first round of interviews Tuesday, and Halaby and Cunningham were scheduled to meet with the Commanders on Wednesday. Those initial interviews were held at Harris’s home offices in Miami and followed a distinct format, according to people with knowledge of the process. Each candidate talked to Spielman separately, then met with Myers and Harris. It’s possible the candidates will also interview with Rales, Johnson and Blitzer in some capacity, be it in person or virtually. Two people said the interviews seemed to be designed to eliminate “fluff,” meaning any scripted material in which candidates appear as if they’re simply going through the motions of the interview. The vision for Washington’s front office differs from recent years. The top executive will probably be titled president of football operations or something similar; GM Martin Mayhew is still under contract and, along with executive vice president of football/player personnel Marty Hurney, is expected to stay with the team through at least the search process. Mayhew’s and Hurney’s futures will probably depend on the primary executive’s plan for the front office. “What that person wants to do or not do is really important in our decision process,” Harris said of the incoming executive. “Doesn’t mean that [owners] are not involved in it, but it means that to a large extent, you’re relying on that person to bring a series of candidates to the table, and so that would be my ideal scenario.” Rivera was the head coach and top executive, retaining final say over personnel and operations during his four years with Washington. Harris said he envisions a more siloed structure for the next front office, with the top executive overseeing operations and personnel and the coach managing all aspects on the field. “There are certainly individuals that control everything,” he said. “I think it’s increasingly hard, so my orientation is not to do that. But on the other hand, I’m going to really be somewhat flexible around talent.” As Harris has said often, it starts with finding the “best” talent — and finding those extra edges. Edited January 11 by Skinsinparadise 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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