2024 Comprehensive Draft Thread

[illone]

3 minutes ago, CapsSkins said:

One aspect that hasn't been debated as much regarding the prospects here is ability to identify and call protections at the line.

 

 

This is a tough one to diagnose because not very many college defenses run exotic packages that guys will see in the NFL, so this question is really more about study habits and work ethic. One (of many) reasons that make college Qbs bust in the NFL at alarming rates.

 

We're in agreement, though, and I think part of the reason why teams conduct 1-1 interviews with prospects at the combine, pro days, etc.

[The Consigliere]

16 hours ago, skinsfan66 said:

True, I posted above, my mistake was just ranking them not pre draft. 

I have never rated them, I just go with who I like. 

A lot of people had Mahomes ahead of Trubisky in '17, actually almost everyone I know of liked Watson or Mahomes or both better. That's not unusual.

 

The one that's nutty would be arguing you nailed '18. I most definitely did not nail '18. I had it 1.Baker 2.Darnold 2B. Rosen 4. Lamar 5. Josh Allen, who I had as do not draft. I really liked Rosen, a lot, Darnold was young and had all the tools, and Baker just had ridiculous production markers and leadership ability. Lamar was a freak but seemed raw. Allen was the least accurate QB I've ever heard of hitting, the past like 25-30 years, there was no way I was betting on "arm" and "athleticism" with that degree of inaccuracy in a bunk conference too. 

Edited January 10 by The Consigliere

[AlwaysBeRedskins2Me]

4 hours ago, OtisDriftwood25 said:

Still lean trade down at this point. The value of the number 2 pick is so high. I just don’t love any of these quarterbacks yet. Would much rather have 2 extra first round picks from Vikings or Raiders and BPA. 

I agree. With a roster filled with holes on offense, defense, and even special teams, how much help would one player even be? No matter how special he is. Lots and lots of draft picks seems to be the most popular route that teams ( who became successful) took. 

[LetMeSeeYourWarFace21]

10 hours ago, The Consigliere said:

A lot of people had Mahomes ahead of Trubisky in '17, actually almost everyone I know of liked Watson or Mahomes or both better. That's not unusual.

 

The one that's nutty would be arguing you nailed '18. I most definitely did not nail '18. I had it 1.Baker 2.Darnold 2B. Rosen 3. Lamar 4. Josh Allen, who I had as do not draft. I really liked Rosen, a lot, Darnold was young and had all the tools, and Baker just had ridiculous production markers and leadership ability. Lamar was a freak but seemed raw. Allen was the least accurate QB I've ever heard of hitting, the past like 25-30 years, there was no way I was betting on "arm" and "athleticism" with that degree of inaccuracy in a bunk conference too. 

 

Sighhhh.....mannn, we HAVE to hit on our 1st pick. If the people who make that decision decide to go with Drake Maye at 2, I'm all in.

 

But low key, I'm REALLY hoping after they go through the full process, that they decide Maye is not the guy. Ive watched a bunch of breakdown game videos on him, interviews on him.....All these comps to Daniel Jones (yuck)......Its just something really BLAH about him. Has little zip on his passes, he's mobile, but doesnt run much. I like him, but......I dont want to be the team that picks Mayfield, Darnold or Rosen, while Lamar & Josh go on to have great careers.

 

My spidey senses are telling me we should do our best to trade up for Caleb Williams. **** it, go head and give up a 2nd & additional 1st (or whatever). I can live with Williams not panning out (knock on wood). We went for the best. OR if we cant move up, take Jayden Daniels. Or trade back a spot or two and take Penix (if his has a good medical report). I have my gripes about Daniels & Penix too, but they feel like better prospects. Somethin about Maye don't feel right at #2.

 

But again, if the powers that be decide they are all in on Maye, they've forgotten more about football than I'll ever know. I will be excited and try to be as optimistic as possible. But if Jayden Daniels falls to the Vagiants and turns into Lamar Jackson, Imma be SICK.

Edited January 10 by LetMeSeeYourWarFace21

[The Consigliere]

6 hours ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

He was a fine college QB.  The road to the NFL is littered with good college quarterbacks who didn't make it.  

Sure, but that's the point, you and others are pointing to a one game sample against Michigan as proof that its absurd or ridiculous when the guys college cv is littered with strong games against top programs. The "he sucked last night" small sample size argument is totally illegitimate and ridiculous. The "he's been hurt repeatedly and is overage" is legit. 

[The Consigliere]

19 minutes ago, LetMeSeeYourWarFace21 said:

 

Sighhhh.....mannn, we HAVE to hit on our 1st pick. If the people who make that decision decide to go with Drake Maye at 2, I'm all in.

 

But low key, I'm REALLY hoping after they go through the full process, that they decide Maye is not the guy. Ive watched a bunch of breakdown game videos on him, interviews on him.....Its just something really BLAH about him. Has little zip on his passes, he's mobile, but doesnt run much. I like him, but......I dont want to be the team that picks Mayfield, Darnold or Rosen, while Lamar & Josh go on to have great careers.

 

My spidey senses are telling me we should do our best to trade up for Caleb Williams. **** it, go head and give up a 2nd & additional 1st (or whatever). I can live with Williams not panning out (knock on wood). We went for the best. OR if we cant move up, take Jayden Daniels. Or trade back a spot or two and take Penix (if his has a good medical report). I have my gripes about Daniels & Penix too, but somethin about Maye don't feel right at #2.

 

But again, if the powers that be decide they are all in on Maye, they've forgotten more about football than I'll ever know. I will be excited and try to be as optimistic as possible. But if Jayden Daniels falls to the Vagiants and turns into Lamar Jackson, Imma be SICK.

I'd be willing to do a trade up, but only if we were exceptionally thorough with mental make up, first in, last out, due diligence on the guy. You just can't afford to swing and miss because you didn't respect the mental piece of the game. If he graded out fine there, I'd be willing to trade up, otherwise, I'm fine with Maye. Depends also on the cost, I'd trade them back their 2nd, and probably a future 2nd, I don't think I'd give them a first beyond the 1.02 we already have this year. That probably doesnt get it done. So be it. We'd only be moving up 1 spot, I'm not giving up a top 10 pick in '25, and an extra 2nd, to do that. That's Carolina in '23 level stupid, except Carolina's pick was a lot lower (and they did give up a ton more (DJ Moore for instance). 

[CapsSkins]

3 minutes ago, The Consigliere said:

I'd be willing to do a trade up, but only if we were exceptionally thorough with mental make up, first in, last out, due diligence on the guy. You just can't afford to swing and miss because you didn't respect the mental piece of the game. If he graded out fine there, I'd be willing to trade up, otherwise, I'm fine with Maye. Depends also on the cost, I'd trade them back their 2nd, and probably a future 2nd, I don't think I'd give them a first beyond the 1.02 we already have this year. That probably doesnt get it done. So be it. We'd only be moving up 1 spot, I'm not giving up a top 10 pick in '25, and an extra 2nd, to do that. That's Carolina in '23 level stupid, except Carolina's pick was a lot lower (and they did give up a ton more (DJ Moore for instance). 

 

It's just hard to imagine Chicago trading with us when New England at 3 would theoretically be willing to give up far more to grab one of the top two QBs and Chicago would still be guaranteed MH Jr since they know we're going QB.

[skinsarethebest]

21 minutes ago, CapsSkins said:

 

It's just hard to imagine Chicago trading with us when New England at 3 would theoretically be willing to give up far more to grab one of the top two QBs and Chicago would still be guaranteed MH Jr since they know we're going QB.

well then we clearly have to take MHJ to teach those Bears a lesson…

 

- or at least create the impression we would.

 

it would be a crazy game of chicken but if we take MHJ, we basically hold him ransom in exchange for the Bears sending over some of that massive haul they got the Pats or Giants to fork over to them.

Edited January 10 by skinsarethebest

[CapsSkins]

24 minutes ago, skinsarethebest said:

well then we clearly have to take MHJ to teach those Bears a lesson…

 

- or at least create the impression we would.

 

it would be a crazy game of chicken but if we take MHJ, we basically hold him ransom in exchange for the Bears sending over some of that massive haul they got the Pats or Giants to fork over to them.

 

We could try! But I'm pretty sure no matter how many statements we leak about believing in Howell and strongly considering building around him w/ MHJr, 99% of NFL front office personnel will have us penciled going with a QB at 2 overall.

[skinsarethebest]

28 minutes ago, CapsSkins said:

 

We could try! But I'm pretty sure no matter how many statements we leak about believing in Howell and strongly considering building around him w/ MHJr, 99% of NFL front office personnel will have us penciled going with a QB at 2 overall.

There is a school of thought (not sure I’m in that camp yet) that a draft where we end up with MHJ is a decent outcome.  I would say that only could be true if we also found a way to trade back into the first round for a Daniels or Penix, or somehow  managed to sign a top tier FA QB.   But yeah if Howell remains penciled in as the starter for next season, I can’t see how this draft would be viewed as anything other than a colossal failure.

[Skinsinparadise]

7 hours ago, The Consigliere said:

A lot of people had Mahomes ahead of Trubisky in '17, actually almost everyone I know of liked Watson or Mahomes or both better. That's not unusual.

 

The one that's nutty would be arguing you nailed '18. I most definitely did not nail '18. I had it 1.Baker 2.Darnold 2B. Rosen 3. Lamar 4. Josh Allen, who I had as do not draft. I really liked Rosen, a lot, Darnold was young and had all the tools, and Baker just had ridiculous production markers and leadership ability. Lamar was a freak but seemed raw. Allen was the least accurate QB I've ever heard of hitting, the past like 25-30 years, there was no way I was betting on "arm" and "athleticism" with that degree of inaccuracy in a bunk conference too. 

 

I never bothered studying that class.   From what i recall I bought the narrative about Mayfield.   But I recall Chris Cooley who did kept saying Josh Allen was the best.

 

I ironically studied Rosen and Darnold including their college games when they were about to hit the trade market -- and disliked both and disliked them intensely as gets here.

Edited January 10 by Skinsinparadise

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[Skinsinparadise]

12 hours ago, OtisDriftwood25 said:

Still lean trade down at this point. The value of the number 2 pick is so high. I just don’t love any of these quarterbacks yet. Would much rather have 2 extra first round picks from Vikings or Raiders and BPA. 

 

Rare for a team to need a QB to trade down from a top 2 pick let alone in a ballyhooed draft for QBs.  Rick Spielman who is doing the GM search weeks back was talking about them trading up for Caleb or Maye when they were slated to pick 4th.

 

You never know.  But I'd be shocked.  At a minimum for the team that arguably has had the worst luck at QB including rarely drafting high enough to take one of the touted ones -- to be the one team given an opportunity and then passing it over -- our GM would better have a killer explanation for doing it and better be vindicated for the move otherwise I'd expect a quick exit for the new GM.

Edited January 10 by Skinsinparadise

[Riggo#44]

9 hours ago, Warhead36 said:

Good lord some of you people just wanna live in mediocrity forever

 

[DWinzit]

QB - OL - WR or QB - WR - OL -that's how I see the first 3 picks going and no trade down from selection #2.

[Skinsinparadise]

10 hours ago, Anselmheifer said:

 

 

God. Giving Justin Herbert Brock Bowers just doesn't seem fair. 

 

KDawg, I think my gut on Drake Maye is about what yours is. But, the scouts all seem to love him a lot more than most on the board do. And my gut sucks. I thought Josh Allen would suck. Had no confidence in Justin Herbert. Drafting for traits can fail miserably, as it did with Trey Lance. But, I am fine taking a shot on Maye at 2. I won't instantly feel like we have the position ties up, but I'd be fine watching to see how it plays out. And Maye would be better supported than Howell. Our OL will be better. I imagine we will have better weapons. Especially if we hire Ben Johnson, we will have an OC that can better tailor a gameplan for a young QB. May strikes me as a guy that can be really, really good, if supported properly. 

 

I don't know about most of the board.  Maye has like 4 or 5 loud critics here.  And on twitter I noticed the hits are very Sam Howell hate related and mostly from this fan base -- stuff said like Howell sucks so Maye from the same school sucks, too.    If you look at the Giants fans-Patriots twitter posts their fans, most of them were salivating for Maye until alas for them he became likely out of reach.  Not that it matters.

 

He's not raw like Trey Lance.   Lance was a runner first.  Electric runner and good deep thrower but struggled with most of everything else.  And he barely even played his last college season. Only one season of college play basically.  And as a passer, Trey didn't have a lot on his plate.  It's about as apples to oranges as it gets to compare them.   

 

Herbert and Allen are the comps that you mostly read and they are apt IMO.  The rawness IMO comps to them is footwork-accuracy at times and decision making -- especially in comparison with Allen in the context of being too in love with their arm and making ill advised contested throws.

 

As for him as a pure passer, he had everything on his plate.  The team was on his back and his supporting cast sucked.  He makes throws consistently on every level and every type. When I've typically watched a passer over the years, it hit me that they majored in a thing or two but far from everything.  Maye does it all.  First level.  2nd level.  3rd level.  In routes.  Out routes.  And does it all consistently well and confidently.  

 

As far as accuracy, he needs to work IMO on throwing off platform and improving touch on first level throws.  If you give him time in the pocket he can pick you apart.  But alas, he couldn't showcase that a heck of a lot.  @KDawg mentioning him throwing with his upper body.  He does.  But when you watch him when he has time in the pocket, you can see him drive the ball with his legs.   

 

That characteristic though doesn't bother me because that only means his ceiling is higher as to arm strength.  Heck as an amateur soft ball player back in my day, I improved my throwing arm by learning to use my full body especially my hips and legs when I threw.   The idea that this dude can throw with velocity with just his upper body shows his potential.

 

I think he has a strong arm.  Not Allen level of course.  But definitely on the high end.  Tough for us to judge watching on youtube though, IMO you got to watch these guys in person to judge that.  He has a big reputation on that front but whether that is justified or not, I think impossible for us to tell.  On youtube my cheat code is how does it look backfoot.  I put a throw below of Drake throwing a 45 yard pass backfoot.  That's plenty as far as arm strength.  But again, I'd still need to see it in person.

 

 

https://www.on3.com/college/north-carolina-tar-heels/news/chip-lindsey-reveals-whats-surprised-him-about-drake-maye/

“I think the thing that probably I didn’t know before is he’s really intelligent. He’s really smart. Football smart. His football IQ is really high,” responded Lindsey. “I mean, he does well in school. He’s got a great GPA and all that, but he understands every aspect of offense. From offensive line play, to who should be working to who in zone schemes, to who we’re working to in pass sets. In pass protections, he’s able to change the protection. That’s something that he’s taken to really quickly, and they did some of that before too. But I think that would be the thing, I mean not knowing him from the outside, you see the talent.

“You see the physical skills. That hadn’t surprised me a bit. But getting here and realizing he’s a football junkie. He understands football. He loves it, and very, very intelligent player.”

 

 

Edited January 10 by Skinsinparadise

[Skinsinparadise]

 

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2024 NFL mock draft: Jordan Reid's Round 1 pick predictions

 

1. Chicago Bears (via CAR)

 

Caleb Williams, QB, USC

After a disappointing finish to the season, the Justin Fields era in Chicago might officially come to a close this offseason. The Bears have to decide whether they want to trade Fields or the No. 1 pick, but in the end, passing on a franchise QB for a second consecutive year -- especially when Fields hasn't done enough to cement his spot -- wouldn't be logical. General manager Ryan Poles could draft a signal-caller whom he can tie to his tenure.

Williams remains my QB1 and No. 2 overall prospect, with terrific arm talent, accuracy and creativity under center. The 2022 Heisman Trophy winner threw 72 touchdown passes and 10 interceptions over the past two seasons.

Team needs: QB, WR, EDGE

 

2. Washington Commanders

Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina

With new ownership -- and soon a new coach -- the Commanders are in desperate need of a spark. Maye can be just that. With a powerful arm to make any downfield throw, he can attack all three levels of the field. This season, he completed 35 passes of 20-plus air yards, the third most in the FBS. Maye still needs to improve his decision-making and progressions, but he is commonly getting comps to Justin Herbert. That speaks to his upside. Sam Howell flashed this season, but he threw a matching 21 touchdown passes and 21 interceptions.

The Commanders already have solid offensive targets in Terry McLaurin and Jahan Dotson, and with four additional picks in the first three rounds, the Commanders could see a quick turnaround.

Team needs: QB, OL, EDGE

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3. New England Patriots

Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU

Stale and lacking talent. That's the only way to sum up the current state of the Patriots' roster. The QB carousel of Bailey Zappe and Mac Jones left more questions than answers, and New England has to find some form of excitement on offense. Daniels is an electrifying talent who brings downfield passing ability and rushing mobility. His improvement during his senior season was remarkable, as he finished first in the FBS in Total QBR (95.6), touchdown passes from the pocket (35) and passing yards per attempt (11.7). His 40 passing TDs ranked second, and his 10 rushing scores tied for ninth among QBs.

Team needs: QB, OT, WR

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4. Arizona Cardinals

Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State

If we were playing a game of matchmaker, the prospect-to-team fit that makes the most sense of any first-round pick is Harrison to the Cardinals. Quarterback Kyler Murray won't hesitate to throw the ball up to his receivers in one-on-one situations, and Harrison -- my top-ranked player in this class -- is exactly what's needed on a roster that's still devoid of high-end talent. Plus, Marquise Brown is a free agent and might not be back.

Harrison's combination of hands, body control and route running make him the clear best receiver in a loaded group, and he has a chance to quickly become a top-10 target at the next level. He is coming off back-to-back seasons with 14 touchdowns and more than 1,200 yards at Ohio State.

Team needs: WR, CB, DL

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5. Los Angeles Chargers

Malik Nabers, WR, LSU

The Chargers are definitely a team that could look to trade back and stock up on picks to fill roster holes with younger talent. But if they stick at No. 5, they should go with a wide receiver for the second consecutive year (Quentin Johnston in 2023). Nabers is an explosive target who would be an immediate upgrade for the team's offense. He's a natural tackle-breaker, finishing sixth in the FBS in forced missed tackles on catches (27). Nabers also led the FBS in receiving yards per game (120.7). He is a big play waiting to happen and the exact type of receiver that Los Angeles needs, especially with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams getting older and struggling to stay on the field.

Team needs: WR, CB, OL

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6. New York Giants

Rome Odunze, WR, Washington

This is a nightmare scenario for the Giants, with all three of the top quarterbacks and both of the top two receivers off the board. Offensive tackle could be an option here, but I don't think GM Joe Schoen is ready to throw in the towel on Evan Neal at right tackle just yet, even though the early returns haven't been promising. Plus, the top two tackles in this class have played only on the left side, where Andrew Thomas lines up for New York.

That leads me to Odunze, who dictates his own route tempos and can make catches in any situation, as evidenced by his FBS-high 1,640 receiving yards this season. He tied for the most contested receptions (24) in the country and had the third-most touchdowns (eight) in those situations. If things play out this way, it would be the first time in the common draft era that three receivers went in the top six picks, per ESPN Stats & Information.

Team needs: QB, WR, OL

 

7. Tennessee Titans

Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame

The Titans would be jumping for joy in this scenario. Will Levis has shown that he could possibly be the long-term quarterback answer, but Tennessee needs multiple new starters along the offensive line to protect him. The Andre Dillard signing hasn't worked out, so left tackle is a huge question mark for whoever ends up as the Titans' new coach.

The 6-foot-8, 320-pound Alt was the most impressive prospect I saw out on the scouting trail this season. He has shown continuous improvement each year of his college career, and some scouts believe Alt -- who allowed two sacks combined over the past two seasons -- is the most well-rounded blocker in this class. Penn State's Olumuyiwa Fashanu could also be the move here, but it shouldn't come as a surprise if Alt is the first offensive tackle off the board.

Team needs: OT, CB, WR

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8. Atlanta Falcons

Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA

It's no secret the Falcons need a quarterback. But Arthur Smith has been relieved of his coaching duties, and with pressure to win next season, I think Atlanta could go the veteran route under center. With that in mind, adding another pass-rusher makes sense, as the Falcons owned the worst pass rush win rate (30.9%) in the league. Latu has an impressive arsenal of pass rush moves and has improved as a run defender. He was second in the FBS in pressure rate (20.1%) this season and recorded 23.5 sacks since joining UCLA in 2022.

Medicals are the biggest question mark here. Latu was forced to sit out two seasons because of a 2020 neck injury while still at Washington. But with a clean bill of health, he would be a no-brainer top-10 pick.

Team needs: QB, EDGE, OL

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9. Chicago Bears

Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama

The midseason Montez Sweat trade improved the Bears' defense, but Chicago still finished 31st in sacks (30). Pairing Sweat with Turner would suddenly give Chicago an exciting young duo off the edge. Turner needs to add more pass-rush moves, but he has continued to get better each season of his career, posting a career-high 10 sacks in 2023. His 16.7% pressure rate was also eighth best in the FBS. And at 6-foot-4 and 242 pounds, Turner comes with versatility and is comfortable dropping in coverage.

Team needs: QB, WR, EDGE

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10. New York Jets

Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT, Penn State

The Jets appear set to run it back with Aaron Rodgers, and with a 40-year-old QB coming off a torn Achilles, they will need to improve his protection. Mekhi Becton was attributed 17 sacks against this season, so there's a clear need for an upgrade at tackle. Fashanu has an impressive combination of foot quickness, balance and fluidity as a pass-protector, and he has the potential to eventually be one of the best offensive tackles in the NFL.

Team needs: OT, WR, QB

 

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[skinsfan66]

7 hours ago, The Consigliere said:

Sure, but that's the point, you and others are pointing to a one game sample against Michigan as proof that its absurd or ridiculous when the guys college cv is littered with strong games against top programs. The "he sucked last night" small sample size argument is totally illegitimate and ridiculous. The "he's been hurt repeatedly and is overage" is legit. 

I think he made some nice throws too in the game. I am not using the age thing, but it hard to over look him after the game and ,holding his rib's and the slow walk to the locker room.

[clskinsfan]

10 hours ago, Anselmheifer said:

Giving Justin Herbert Brock Bowers just doesn't seem fair.

THis is what happens once you have your QB established though. I think its like 90% that we end up with Maye. And I am fine with it. It will take him a season to get adjusted. And then you can really start thinking about adding weapons that work with his style in the 25 draft and beyond.

[skinsfan66]

10 hours ago, Anselmheifer said:

 

 

God. Giving Justin Herbert Brock Bowers just doesn't seem fair. 

 

KDawg, I think my gut on Drake Maye is about what yours is. But, the scouts all seem to love him a lot more than most on the board do. And my gut sucks. I thought Josh Allen would suck. Had no confidence in Justin Herbert. Drafting for traits can fail miserably, as it did with Trey Lance. But, I am fine taking a shot on Maye at 2. I won't instantly feel like we have the position ties up, but I'd be fine watching to see how it plays out. And Maye would be better supported than Howell. Our OL will be better. I imagine we will have better weapons. Especially if we hire Ben Johnson, we will have an OC that can better tailor a gameplan for a young QB. May strikes me as a guy that can be really, really good, if supported properly. 

My thoughts too when I looked at it. Herbert with 2 healthy WR's and(Browers), 2nd coming of Gates he was one of my favorites to watch. 

[clskinsfan]

8 hours ago, AlwaysBeRedskins2Me said:

Lots and lots of draft picks seems to be the most popular route

We already have that though.

[Skinsinparadise]

Just watched two games of Cooper DeJean.  I keep reading about him being a swiss army knife but the two games i watched he played outside corner.

 

He was lockdown good. QBs barely even tested him.  I've seen him in the late first here and there in some mocks.  And typically some of those late first types fall to the early 2nd.  i am assuming he's out of reach though in the 2nd so i am too lazy to write something up.  I'll just go with sticky in coverage, good instincts, can return kicks and considering his stats he's clearly a ball hawk, too.

 

 

 

Edited January 10 by Skinsinparadise

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[KDawg]

1 minute ago, HTTRDynasty said:

 

 

 

The hyperbole there for both Williams downside (can't hit a deep ball? Stop it) and Maye (greatest he's ever seen) are crazy to me.

 

I don't know how you don't watch either of these guys and see the warts... but also see the great stuff.

 

Anyways RE: Cooper Dejean.... I think he's a safety in the NFL vs. a corner, but he has ridiculous position flex(tm). He can absolutely play on the outside at corner as well as sitting in a deep zone or rolling up and playing in the box as a safety or an alley defender. He's a baller.

 

As far as pure safeties go, I stick to my take: Kam Kinchens is the best in class. 

[Skinsinparadise]

3 minutes ago, KDawg said:

 

Anyways RE: Cooper Dejean.... I think he's a safety in the NFL vs. a corner, but he has ridiculous position flex(tm). He can absolutely play on the outside at corner as well as sitting in a deep zone or rolling up and playing in the box as a safety or an alley defender. He's a baller.

 

As far as pure safeties go, I stick to my take: Kam Kinchens is the best in class. 

 

I can see Dejean projected to safety, has the size for it.  But I was surprised watching him that he played outside corner with a little slot mixed it.  I was expecting to see him play safety.

 

I haven't watched Kitchens yet.

 

As I mentioned yesterday, I like what I saw from the Georgia safeties -- Bullard and Smith as 4th round types.  But I have to watch many more guys. 

Edited January 10 by Skinsinparadise