Riggo#44 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, Anselmheifer said: What does everyone here thing about Xavier Worthy, out of Texas? We could use a big play, elite speed guy to take the top off and relieve Terry of some pressure. I feel like we have that in McLaurin and Dotson, but our offense was so poorly run last year across the board. Our Oline couldn’t pick up stunts for the life of them 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koolblue13 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I lean JPJ, but I am about as high on the 3 top centers as I am on Beebe. Day 1 starters on most teams. If we can grab one of those guys or two, I'll jump for joy. OT I like as projects, not starters outside of a few. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mh86 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 30 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: He got those hands up real quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Riggo#44 said: I feel like we have that in McLaurin and Dotson, but our offense was so poorly run last year across the board. Our Oline couldn’t pick up stunts for the life of them I think of Jahan more as a slot guy that can occasionally get open deep. He’s not a high end speed guy. Terry is fast and can get deep. I think of him more as a do everything guy. But imagine another speed guy drawing safety coverage away from Terry. We currently do have another burner, in Samuel, but, I think we are likely to let him leave. Do we want to go in to next season with a new QB and less receiving talent and receiving speed than we had on the field this season? I don’t think it’s as high a priority as QB/OL or maybe even TE, but I would do SOMETHING. Obviously, we are going to address some of these issues in FA 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: Oh, my goodness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said: I lean JPJ, but I am about as high on the 3 top centers as I am on Beebe. Day 1 starters on most teams. If we can grab one of those guys or two, I'll jump for joy. OT I like as projects, not starters outside of a few. Tone can be difficult to get across on a message board, so this is a genuine question and not stark. You don’t have any concern with a rookie center and rookie qb, starting day 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 31 minutes ago, Ball Security said: Tone can be difficult to get across on a message board, so this is a genuine question and not stark. You don’t have any concern with a rookie center and rookie qb, starting day 1? I don't. Not if they're both going to come up together ala Manning and Saturday. If we were trying to go to the SB this coming season, it would be different, but we're building a team and it'll take a couple years. I'm also extremely high on all three centers (and Beebe). Even if we signed a veteran center, they're never going to be a Kelce, Humphries or Ragnow. If we get (Im drawing a blank on the Detroit OL coach) and give him a young OL to mold and it takes some lumps this year, it's fine. I'd feel great drafting Beebe and JPJ (or any of the 3 C), and Kiran and Paul in the 3/4 round range to groom. In three years, we have a very young dominant OL on a rookie contract, with a QB that is hitting stride. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysBeRedskins2Me Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: I live in WV and am a WVU fan. I can attest that Zach Frazier is a beast! Has big potential to be a very good NFL player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 didn’t expect this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 10 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: Zach Frazier, along with Zak Zinter, are 2 OL that look excellent value. But when looking it seems they are both injured still ?? then add Beebe to the mix as an OL target of mine. Im guessing these would be round 2-4 options, Beebe being the highest ranked ? Edited January 27 by Est.1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, Est.1974 said: Zach Frazier, along with Zak Zinter, are 2 OL that look excellent value. But when looking it seems they are both injured still ?? then add Beebe to the mix as an OL target of mine. Im guessing these would be round 2-4 options, Beebe being the highest ranked ? The Z's both coming back from fractures feel much more appealing than players with knees. The recovery time is usually longer. That said, Zinter's injuries were more severe than Fraziers. Teams will be all over his medicals. If he is coming long yes, these two were some of the higher ranked IOL pre-injury. My guess is 3-4 rounds with Frazier going first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) More good (IMO) players I overlooked in my initial rankings: Micah Abraham CB Marshall Kam Arnold OLB/ILB Boston College good Day 3 flyer type Edited January 27 by Chump Bailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 10 hours ago, Conn said: didn’t expect this I like a bunch of RBs in this mix. Corum included. But I am not in the camp here that he's a first rounder or even an early 2nd rounder. To me he's a late 2nd at the highest or more likely 3rd rounder. He's going to be 24 his rookie season. Stats wise he doesn't jump on a number of metrics. However, he cleary does for TDs. And they relied on him so much in short yardage situations that it will depress his stats. He's also a really high intangibles player -- locker room guy. I like Corum but am not in the Corum or bust camp. Benson, J. Wright, Lloyd are up there too among others as third round-4th round types IMO. Though Lloyd will be 24 at the end of his rookie season so I think that will also have him fall. I noticed a dude I really like Ray Davis will be 25 his rookie season, that's nuts for a rookie season. I think the ages for these guys will be a factor. I like Estime and Allen both are only 20 but alas they are both power backs types and we already have two of those types on the roster. As to doing this as to an age-speed fit here, among the ones I watched I'd go Benson, Wright. I am guessing Benson might be like Corum late 2nd-early 3rd. Wright later third-4th? I like Brooks but I've already seen one RB here taken with an ACL tear and that didn't end well. Pass catching -- Irving, Watson. I like Corum, Lloyd, Davis but at that age, we likely get a short lived run with them. PFF metrics, rankings below Edited January 27 by Skinsinparadise 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: I like Corum but am not in the Corum or bust camp When I first looked at RB's - 6-8 weeks or so ago I stated I think I prefer Donovan Edwards to Corum - not that Corum is not good. Edwards is headed back to school though. Tyrone Tracey is a new name for me. Steele I don't see much in but will take another gander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Don't you all think that Peters moves down with one of our 2nd and 3rds? He probably moves down again in the 4th. I see a minimum of 12 picks in this draft. Dudes got a lot of work to do. I want the Lions to win but I more so want them to put up points and lose so we can hire Ben and get our coaching staff in place. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chump Bailey said: When I first looked at RB's - 6-8 weeks or so ago I stated I think I prefer Donovan Edwards to Corum - not that Corum is not good. Edwards is headed back to school though. Tyrone Tracey is a new name for me. Steele I don't see much in but will take another gander. Tracy was at iowa transfered to Purdue where they converted him from a receiver to a RB. He was one of the better kick returners in college last year. I couldn't find any condensed Purdue offense games so he's a rare case where I just watched highlights. His highlights are inpressive albiet highlights from most players are impressive so I get to take it with a grain of salt. But you can see his upside. Feisty runner with good speed and power. Nice jump cut. Contact balance. Breaks tackles. Runs a bit upright. As a receiver he showcased good YAC ability. He has the best yards after contact numbers in this group. Based on that, feels like a 49ers type player? Peters? Poor man's Mccaffrey type? I know some are sour on the Wr converted to RB drill because of Gibson. But Gibson had a good career here, he just didn't explode the way we wanted. It was interesting to hear from Logan Paulsen that Gibson isn't considered in that building a good route runner and that's part of the reason why he suspected they didn't use him much in the passing game. Edited January 27 by Skinsinparadise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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actorguy1 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I've heard multiple times from Jim Nagy interviews about how the back end of the draft is equal to UDFA level from past years. Not that they couldn't find a diamond in the rough. Was wondering what people think about them packaging their 5th, 6th and 7th round pick to obtain an extra 3rd rounder (or 4th if necessary)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Really liking a late round RB - sparkplug Kimani Vidal of Troy Trojans. Sun Belt OPOY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooseneck Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 https://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/how-to-value-nfl-draft-picks/ Suggest an easy trade up to first round if needed though I think trade back might be more likely. Obviously, depends on who we sign in free agency. 2024 NFL Draft Big Board | Tankathon there ranking seem to me to be better than PFF to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 44 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 8 minutes ago, The Rook said: Really liking a late round RB - sparkplug Kimani Vidal of Troy Trojans. Sun Belt OPOY Or Dylan Loube, New Hampshire. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, actorguy1 said: Was wondering what people think about them packaging their 5th, 6th and 7th round pick to obtain an extra 3rd rounder (or 4th if necessary)? I'd do it in a heartbeat. Rounds 3-5 appear to offer the most bang for your buck IMO and as many picks in that range I could net would be something I would pursue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just now, Chump Bailey said: I'd do it in a heartbeat. Rounds 3-5 appear to offer the most bang for your buck IMO and as many picks in that range I could net would be something I would pursue. That's not how Peters works most of the time though. He's like Beathard. He gets gems in the mid to late rounds of the drafts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Rook said: Really liking a late round RB - sparkplug Kimani Vidal of Troy Trojans. Sun Belt OPOY I like him too. I'd prefer the RB from Marshall in that same range or even better Ray Davis. We need some legit speed in the backfield IMO. 4 minutes ago, RWJ said: That's not how Peters works most of the time though. He's like Beathard. He gets gems in the mid to late rounds of the drafts. If he's like Bobby B. we're in good hands. 3 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said: His team-mate Jarrian Jones is also good. Edited January 27 by Chump Bailey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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