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@actorguy1 I'm wondering who's gonna be your pick for day 6,. I don't have much clue about this number.

 

And I'm gonna watch 8 closely, because there's some strong debate with this number here! 

Same for 1 and 2. There's some debate there :P

 

But that list is gonna make for a lot of special teamers I believe.

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For #6 you could go for a kicker, actually one of our Super Bowl kickers, we only had him one year.  The Shiekh!

 

Also, could go Bob Holly for #8, Joey T.'s backup for a year or two.  Holding out hope for Mike Bragg at #4 but have a feeling it will be the feisty ODU product now with ATL.

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8 hours ago, RFK Lives said:

For #6 you could go for a kicker, actually one of our Super Bowl kickers, we only had him one year.  The Shiekh!

I thought about him. But even with a SB ring,; I'm not sure he's worth it. Hence my doubts about this number :P

 

Edit: but we may not have much options at this number :P

 

8 hours ago, RFK Lives said:

Also, could go Bob Holly for #8, Joey T.'s backup for a year or two.

Nope. Definately, nope...

 

8 hours ago, RFK Lives said:

Holding out hope for Mike Bragg at #4

My bet at #4.

Honestly, 7, 5, 4 and 3 seems pretty given to me. And I hesitate between 2 for 1 and 2...

 

And 1 can only be a Punter as in "Punting Dan away from here"...

 

7 hours ago, NoVaSkins21 said:

I wonder if Grossman is going to be the guy for tomorrow

I nearly forgot about him, but Sexy Rexy is part of the debate, without much chance I guess. It'll either be K or QB IMHO.

 

Damn, this countdown is entertaining!

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I am convinced Dan ironically was the leaker.

 

The kicker for me was how Dan sent his lawyer goons on a rare radio tour to try to sell Bruce was a bad guys, citing those emails.  It came off big time calcluated.  And on brand for him it was both delusiional and self destructive.

 

The power point presentation which basically was used to threaten Goodell and the other owners is so on brand.

 

I usually don't give this much text.  But the exception has been these Dan expose articles.  This is still far from the full article even combining this post and my next post.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37965420/the-secret-history-dan-snyder-demise-washington-commanders-owner

 

He was free and clear': How the leak of Jon Gruden's email led to the fall of Commanders owner Dan Snyder

AS HE HOPPED on a call with Roger Goodell, Las Vegas Raiders owner Mark Davis had no plans to fire his head coach.

It was the afternoon of Friday, Oct. 8, 2021. A few hours earlier, The Wall Street Journal had published a blockbuster story about an email Raiders coach Jon Gruden had sent 10 years earlier, when he worked as a color analyst for ESPN's "Monday Night Football." Gruden, in an exchange with Washington's general manager Bruce Allen, had called NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith "Dumboriss" and described him using a racist trope. To most observers, Gruden's dismissal seemed like a matter of when, not if. But Davis hoped to -- at the very least -- slow down a hurricane from the center of the storm.

According to sources familiar with his thinking, Davis found the story's timing suspicious. Why were emails coming out now? Who had leaked them? And who had the most to gain?

"It felt like a setup," Davis would later tell an associate.

Even though league officials in New York and a few team owners had known about the Gruden emails for months, as part of the investigation into Commanders owner Dan Snyder and the toxic workplace culture inside his franchise, Davis had learned of them only the day before the Journal's exclusive, when Raiders president Dan Ventrelle told him: "We've got a problem."

After the Journal story, Davis polled current and former Raiders players and staff on how they felt about Gruden. Some wanted him gone; others didn't. Davis knew Gruden could be crass and profane, the sources said, but in a relationship spanning more than two decades, he had no reason to believe Gruden was racist.

 

So when Davis and Ventrelle took the conference call with Goodell and NFL general counsel Jeff Pash, Davis leaned toward sticking by Gruden. But Davis felt immediate pressure. According to sources with direct knowledge of the call, Goodell repeatedly told Davis, "You have to do something."

"What are you going to do?" Pash asked.

The statements and questions incensed Davis. He believed the league office had no purview to pressure an owner to fire a head coach, regardless of the circumstance.

"There's more emails coming," Goodell told Davis. "Something has to be done."

When the call ended, Davis turned to Ventrelle.

"Motherf---er," Davis said in exasperation.

 

On Monday, Oct. 11, The New York Times published a story revealing new emails in which Gruden wrote that Goodell was "clueless" and "anti-football" and described him in anti-gay and misogynistic terms. That evening, Gruden resigned, pushed by Davis. Gruden would soon file a lawsuit against the NFL and Goodell that accused the commissioner of "directly leaking" his emails to harm his reputation and force him out, something league officials have repeatedly denied.

What angered Davis more than anything, he later said, was being surprised by the emails months after Goodell, Pash and other owners, including Snyder, knew about them. It seemed to Davis as if he and the Raiders were collateral damage in what he saw as Goodell's yearslong effort to protect Dan Snyder, of all owners, at all costs.

"F--- the NFL," Davis later told Gruden. "And f--- Dan Snyder."

'A major miscalculation'

 

FIFTEEN DAYS AFTER Gruden resigned under pressure, Goodell denied in a closed-door, owners-only meeting in midtown Manhattan that he or anyone in the league office had leaked the damning emails. The focus of speculation around the league turned to Snyder. In October 2022, ESPN reported that the league believed Snyder was behind the leaks. A congressional report last December contained testimony that also pointed toward the Commanders as the source of the leak.

Months of interviews with executives, lawyers, agents, and league and team officials, most of whom requested anonymity, reveal that a larger cast of people might have played a role in the leaking. Those accused by the sources include:

  • Top NFL executives, including Goodell. Sources, including one in ownership, told ESPN that NFL executives approved the release of some emails. Four owners told ESPN they believe Goodell was personally involved. NFL spokesperson Brian McCarthy repeated the league's denial, in public and in legal responses, that it was responsible. "Neither the NFL nor the commissioner leaked Coach Gruden's offensive emails," McCarthy told ESPN. In a statement to ESPN, Gruden said, "it's ridiculous the league thought they could cherry-pick emails from years ago, when I wasn't even a coach and try to end my career." He added: "At a minimum, I deserved the opportunity to respond and receive some due process."

  • NFL Players Association chief DeMaurice Smith. Smith bragged that he was responsible for leaking the racist email referring to him, an associate with direct knowledge told ESPN. The leaked email was published on the same day Smith faced a union vote to retain his job. Smith declined to comment through union spokesperson George Atallah.

  • Snyder, in an operation run by his New York law firm Reed Smith and with help from Desiree Perez, the CEO of Roc Nation, which has a $25 million contract to help the NFL on social justice issues. A Reed Smith lawyer told one source, before and after the leaks, about the firm's involvement and Perez's alleged role, which the source did not define. Lawyers with direct knowledge of Reed Smith operations and Perez's dual role -- as an influential NFL consultant and a Snyder confidant -- told ESPN the group dusted off tactics it had used in Alex Rodriguez's lawsuit against Major League Baseball years ago.

    But Jordan Siev, a partner at Reed Smith, said that the firm "never leaked any" of the emails and that "neither Dan Snyder nor anyone on his or the team's behalf ever requested or authorized that Reed Smith do so. Any assertion to the contrary is false." Perez declined repeated opportunities to speak with an ESPN reporter. An attorney representing her said in a letter to an ESPN attorney that "Ms. Perez had no role whatsoever in the leaking of any emails, or in any discussion or decision to leak any emails."

    Sources said Snyder, who was serving a punishment after a league investigation had exposed a toxic workplace culture at the team, hoped the emails would deflect blame for workplace issues to Allen while currying favor with Goodell by giving the commissioner a chance to eliminate Gruden, a longtime antagonist. Commanders spokesperson Jean Medina declined to answer any questions about the leaks but issued a statement that "ownership is working constructively with the League to finalize the sale of the Washington Commanders to the Josh Harris Group and will continue to support the organization through the transition process."

 

The actual leakers' identities remain unknown as lawyers and executives point to each other like a circular firing squad, with plenty of smoke but no smoking gun. Everyone who knew about the emails had apparent motives to leak.

No matter how the leaks were engineered, multiple sources draw a direct line from emails that trickled out over a few days in October 2021 to Snyder's crash and his imminent $6.05 billion sale of the Commanders. Within days of the leaks, a congressional committee launched a wide-ranging investigation of the Commanders and the NFL that forced Goodell, Allen and Snyder to testify under oath. The congressional inquiry would lead to a federal criminal investigation into alleged financial misconduct by Snyder and the team. As pressure mounted, Snyder bragged to associates that he had collected dirt on his fellow owners and Goodell that could "blow up" the league. Unfazed, owners finally all but forced Snyder to sell his beloved franchise.

Although multiple people paid a price -- or still could -- for a series of leaks that continue to threaten the NFL in the Nevada courts, no one suffered greater blowback than Snyder.

 

N JUNE 2021, Dan Snyder's legal team and select league executives gathered at NFL headquarters in Manhattan. In survival mode, Snyder's team of lawyers prepared a defense against the findings from attorney Beth Wilkinson's investigation into the franchise. The previous summer, he had hired Wilkinson to look into the team, a move to keep the league office at arm's distance. But the league quickly had assumed control of Wilkinson's inquiry and quietly struck an accord with Snyder's team -- "a common interest agreement" that the owner and the league would share all evidence and material collected and that neither the NFL nor Snyder would release any information from the inquiry without the other's consent.

 

Although it appeared to owners and executives that the league and Snyder had worked together to minimize the investigation's impact, palpable tension existed. In league circles, Goodell appeared to be growing weary of Snyder. During the pandemic, it became a running joke among some owners and executives that when Snyder spoke on videoconference calls, Goodell looked irritated or distracted. But now, Snyder moved beyond simply annoying the league office to causing serious problems.

 

When Snyder's lawyers -- famed defense attorney Joe Tacopina, assisted by Reed Smith partners Siev and James McCarroll -- began to show a series of slides, those in the room were stunned, according to sources. What was presented was not a defense against any of Wilkinson's findings made against Snyder; it was a series of screenshots of potentially embarrassing emails and texts from several top league executives, including Goodell's top lieutenant, Pash. The rationale, according to a source with firsthand knowledge, was to argue the hypocrisy of league officials judging Snyder. The tactics were so ruthless that some attorneys felt uncomfortable. Although none of the content was sexist, anti-gay or graphic, the signal was clear: If Goodell didn't do what Snyder wanted in terms of handling the Wilkinson report and punishment, these emails and texts would be leaked.

It became known in league circles as the "Blackmail PowerPoint."

 

League executives and others involved in the case were angry when they were informed of Snyder's tactics, multiple sources told ESPN. From that point on, any direct communication from the league office to Snyder had to be legally vetted. But Snyder's PowerPoint proved effective. A few top NFL executives had persuaded Goodell to give Snyder a stiff and lengthy punishment. But as the time for announcing Snyder's punishment neared, Goodell began to reconsider.

 

By late June, Snyder was "dictating his punishment" down to every detail, according to a source with knowledge of the deliberations. Legal sources said that Snyder and his lawyers were consulted by NFL executives in the drafting of the news release, with Snyder weighing in on word choices. It was an atypical and collaborative process, as compared with the way the league typically metes out punishment -- notably in the one-sided judgments after Bountygate and Deflategate. Snyder and his team were pleased with the results, later bragging that the discipline was surprisingly light.

 

In the late afternoon of Thursday, July 1, before holiday weekend, the league announced Snyder's punishment. He would step away from day-to-day operations "for at least the next several months" and pay a $10 million fine -- with proceeds benefiting Washington, D.C., area nonprofit organizations. The word "suspension" was never used. In a news release, the NFL praised Snyder for having "recognized the need for change" and "undertaken important steps" to improve the team's culture. None of Wilkinson's specific findings were released, despite assurances she had given witnesses, including former team cheerleaders, that the full report would be public. The drafted recommendations urging the NFL to force Snyder to sell his team had effectively been buried. A Washington radio station reported that it had obtained screenshots of the recommendations from Wilkinson's draft report that included urging the NFL to force Snyder to sell his team. But the NFL insists no written document ever existed.

 

Her work now complete, Wilkinson turned an estimated 650,000 Commanders emails over to the league. A handful of senior league executives oversaw IT consultants who culled Gruden's offensive emails. Apart from Snyder's lawyers at Reed Smith, only a handful of league staff, mostly in the legal department, had access to the emails. For months after that, sources said, the emails were the source of gossip among owners and executives -- until summaries of the emails were shown to Roger Goodell in early October.

"He was free and clear that October -- he just had to wait out his suspension and let everything blow over," a source close to Snyder said. "A major miscalculation. Without the leaks, he might just have survived."

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Here's some more.  I presume the last ESPN expose on Dan at least until they run their 30-30.  

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37965420/the-secret-history-dan-snyder-demise-washington-commanders-owner

 

Snyder are both clients of Reed Smith, a firm with a reputation for taking an aggressive approach on behalf of famous clients. Previously, Perez and Reed Smith were allegedly involved in leaking documents to reporters and putting private investigators on now-MLB commissioner Rob Manfred to help Rodriguez's lawsuit against Major League Baseball.

Reed Smith's brass-knuckles reputation appealed to Dan Snyder, who in the fall of 2021 was impatient to return to his team.

Snyder believed that his banishment was supposed to last only a month and that he should have been able to return to normal, sources said. He attended every game during his vague banishment, even if he wasn't seen on the field as usual. As the 2021 regular season neared its midpoint, Snyder considered his punishment served and expected a full return to visibility and attendance at league meetings.

 

"He didn't think that was part of the terms he had worked out," a source close to Snyder said.

ESPN later reported that Snyder's lawyer, John Brownlee of Holland & Knight, believed that Snyder's punishment was over as of Nov. 1, 2021. But Goodell refused to allow him back to league meetings. If Snyder could have lain low until the end of the season, owners and executives told ESPN, he might just have retained his team.

 

But Snyder couldn't resist. Sources said they were told Snyder and the NFL saw opportunity in publicizing racist and anti-gay emails from one of the league's most prominent head coaches.

The hope, one source said, was that the leaks would "divert attention from this situation with Snyder and give room for everybody to lay down their swords. ... This was a hatchet job -- a gift wrapped by Snyder for Goodell, to get back into Goodell's good graces on the suspension."

 

The source was told by an attorney involved that Perez, meanwhile, saw the chance to help the commissioner: "Goodell and the league wanted to off Gruden and seem like they were tough on racism.

"This was a gift."

 

....Back in Manhattan, the scandal seemed far from over. Yet more emails were coming out in the Times, this time also targeting Pash -- some of the same emails Snyder's lawyers had shared with league officials during their June PowerPoint presentation. On Thursday, Oct. 14, the Times published another story detailing friendly and casual emails between Pash and Allen, a story people close to Snyder told ESPN was intended to pin the team's toxic culture problems on Allen and show that the league was complicit and cozy with him. "Dan wanted to kill Pash," an ownership source with knowledge of the leaks told ESPN.

 

Over the years, Goodell has responded to leaks from inside the league office by assembling his top staff and saying the league would be searching its phones and computers for communications with reporters. But after the Gruden leaks, league sources said, Goodell didn't hold that type of meeting; it's unclear why not.

 

Lawyers close to the NFL and to Gruden said the choice to leak to the Times over The Washington Post, a newspaper Snyder hates, was a dead giveaway that Snyder and those around him were behind the leaks. Two sources told ESPN that the same "playbook" that was used in the A-Rod lawsuit against MLB was used to leak the emails published by the Times.

"The same crew that helped Alex go after Manfred helped Snyder with the leaks," said another source who was briefed on how the Gruden leaks were engineered.

 

Gruden's legal team went as far as to research prior work by the reporters who received the leaks and found what it saw as favorable stories previously written about Dan and Tanya Snyder and Roc Nation. The Times' Rosman wrote a piece in February 2020 about Roc Nation's partnership with the NFL. The Journal's Beaton wrote in June 2021 about Dan and Tanya Snyder's efforts to reform the team's culture, including a rare on-the-record interview with Dan Snyder. The Wall Street Journal did not immediately respond to an inquiry from ESPN.

"How stupid can you be?" said a source close to Snyder who was aware of the previous stories done by the reporters who reported on the leaked emails. "They left a trail in the dirt."

 

But another source who knows Perez disputed her involvement. The source said she had no reason to help Snyder and had distanced herself from him during her time on the Commanders' board. And Perez "had no knowledge that it [leaking] was even being contemplated," her attorney wrote to ESPN's counsel.

After Gruden was gone, Snyder had hoped to be welcomed back into the league for good. But his plan backfired. Goodell still refused to allow Snyder to attend league meetings.

In fact, the league said in its response to Gruden's lawsuit, the commissioner had no vendetta against Gruden and the email leak "was unequivocally against the NFL's best interests."

 

"The emails not only dampened the NFL's historic season, but also stood in stark contrast with the significant progress the League had made in recent years on diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, and resulted in negative media coverage for the League," the NFL filing says.

Within days of the leaks, Congress opened an investigation into Snyder, the allegations of sexual harassment and financial improprieties, and into Goodell's handling of the Wilkinson investigation. A source close to the committee told ESPN that, although congressional staff and some lawmakers were already interested in issues around the Commanders and Snyder, the string of leaks moved them to act. Their thinking was, if the leaks showed the kind of material Snyder was weaponizing against his enemies, what else might be out there?

The congressional inquiry thrust the Snyder allegations that had been dormant since July back into the spotlight. In February 2022, several former Washington employees spoke at a congressional roundtable, and one woman, Tiffani Johnston, alleged she had been sexually harassed by Snyder at a team dinner. That revelation caused the NFL to hire Mary Jo White, the former U.S. attorney and head of the Securities and Exchange Commission, to conduct a new inquiry of Snyder. White's report, the findings of which Goodell has pledged repeatedly to release publicly, is expected soon. In June 2022, Goodell testified but Snyder evaded testimony and cruised the Mediterranean on his superyacht. Snyder and Allen also testified under oath before the committee.

 

....Gruden recently wondered aloud to associates why Dan Snyder would have had it out for him. He knew that Snyder hated Bruce Allen; Snyder had fired Allen "for cause" in 2019, and the two were fighting over whether Snyder needed to pay the remainder of Allen's contract, sources said. And Gruden knew his brother Jay had shared some unsavory stories earlier in 2021 about working for Snyder, including telling the Post that the owner would "come in off his yacht" and pick players on the first day of the draft and override his coaches, scouts, everyone. Gruden thought back to an exchange with Snyder years earlier, when he had bumped into Snyder at a restaurant. Gruden believed Snyder was drunk, and he and Gruden started playfully trash-talking, with Snyder calling Gruden fat and

 

Gruden saying he might "dribble his head into the asphalt." Both men laughed, but Gruden wondered if Snyder had taken offense.

Although the league initially expressed confidence that Gruden's lawsuit would be dismissed, Gruden has won every court motion against the NFL. The league has tried to move the case to arbitration, its venue of choice, where league-friendly lawyers are in charge and discovery, including communications between league officials and others, is not made public. Gruden's case is now on appeal by the NFL before the Nevada Supreme Court. A ruling is expected late this year.

League officials told ESPN that regardless of any bad blood between Goodell and Gruden, the commissioner wouldn't have approved leaking the emails, despite their racist tone. "He still wouldn't do it," a league source said. In NFL circles, it's believed that if not for the leaks, those emails would have remained buried in what owners and executives commonly refer to as "Jeff Pash's black box."

 

Gruden persists in believing that Goodell "pushed the code red" against him, he told associates, adding that the commissioner executed the "kill shot" on his career, "a bullet to the head." Gruden insists he won't settle his lawsuit for any amount, intending "to burn the house down" to reveal the truth about who ordered the leaks. "This was a massive hit job," Gruden recently told an associate, often saying Allen had told him the 650,000 emails "incriminate everyone in the league."

 

...Privately, owners still expect Snyder to fight until the sale is complete, as he has all along. Sources said that in October 2022 -- a full year after the email leak and days after the ESPN report that he had threatened to "blow up" the league and Goodell with "dirt" he had collected -- word spread that Snyder planned to show up at owners meetings in lower Manhattan. Goodell insisted that he still was not allowed to do so despite the vague terms of his punishment. Owners enlisted Jones, the only one of them with influence over Snyder, to implore Snyder not to attend. The next day, the Colts' Jim Irsay told reporters that his fellow owners needed to look into removing Snyder, based on his behavior. Two weeks later, Snyder announced that he was exploring a sale of the team, expected to be approved by owners July 20.

 

As Davis enters the 2023 spring meeting, he smiles, pleased to be here, as usual. It's been a tough time since Gruden resigned. The Raiders made the playoffs in 2021 but are 13-18 overall since the emails were leaked. The team is now in the midst of another rebuild and in search of a new franchise quarterback, a reminder of how fragile success is in the NFL. Davis recently brought on a new limited partner: Tom Brady. And despite the league and owners awarding Las Vegas the draft in 2022 and Super Bowl LVIII next February, Davis is still seething over the way he was treated by Goodell, especially compared with how the commissioner treated Snyder. In Goodell's NFL, almost always, the commissioner grants an owner far greater leniency than any head coach or star player. But even the owners aren't treated equally. Davis knows it's the way things go for his family, and for the Raiders.

And as the owners in that exclusive room yearn to finally push the league to a post-Snyder world, for this moment Dan Snyder is still one of them.

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15 hours ago, Wildbunny said:

I thought about him. But even with a SB ring,; I'm not sure he's worth it. Hence my doubts about this number :P

 

Edit: but we may not have much options at this number :P

 

Nope. Definately, nope...

 

My bet at #4.

Honestly, 7, 5, 4 and 3 seems pretty given to me. And I hesitate between 2 for 1 and 2...

 

And 1 can only be a Punter as in "Punting Dan away from here"...

 

I nearly forgot about him, but Sexy Rexy is part of the debate, without much chance I guess. It'll either be K or QB IMHO.

 

Damn, this countdown is entertaining!

 

Gotta have Steve "Bugsy" Bagarus for the day after July 20th...(I grew up with his daughter & son)

 

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I listened to the ESPN writer on Sheehan's show.  

 

He does think Dan was the main leak of the emails.   He talked about how the league and fellow owners can't wait to see the end of the Dan era.   He believes that Dan's blackmail powerpoint presentation was a factor in Wilkerson's report not getting released.  And says he knows Dan doesn't want the Mary Jo White report released either.

 

He said he knows people close to Dan who say Dan is devastated that he had to sell this team.  If so, good!

 

I liked reading this.  It doubles down about big it is that this douche will no longer be the owner of this team.   It also doubles down that Dan hasn't changed one whit -- which feels like everyone agrees on with the exception of Ron Rivera.

 

The way Dan dealt with the actual investigation is a textbook case why we never had a shot with him -- sleazeball behavior, delusional, dumb, and self destructive.  And his main defense of his own sleazeball behavior is to that others can be sleazeballs too and or hope to blackmail and intimidate others to back off.

 

Onward and upward. 

 

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

I liked reading this.  It doubles down about big it is that this douche will no longer be the owner of this team.   It also doubles down that Dan hasn't changed one whit -- which feels like everyone agrees on with the exception of Ron Rivera.

 

 

 

Don't forget Tanya...

 

One has to wonder if all of this is true (and many here believed Snyder was behind those leaks all along), then Goodell must be quaking in his loafers. If the emails are that bad that Goofball buried the Wilkinson report, then they must be terrible. However, if they were truly that bad then the owners would still be supporting Snyder...I'm thinking that the owners wanted Snyder gone more than anything once it was clear he could not get a new stadium built because of his toxic bullying, and they are willing to make Goodell expendable in the process.

 

It also makes sense that the owners would be furious if the MJW report never comes out (which I think it won't, honestly), because Goodell made a bad decision in burying the Wilkinson report in the first place...he hoped it would all just go away, but it brought a massive PR backlash from the media. If I were an owner, I would want Goodell out based on his poor judgement.

 

I think Gruden has a very good chance of winning a sizable settlement, if not a head coaching job.

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