PlayAction Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 13 hours ago, mhd24 said: With our cap space, we're going to have to spend. We might have some dead cap money if the team moves on from a few players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, PlayAction said: We might have some dead cap money if the team moves on from a few players There might be dead cap hits, but almost anyone we could conceivably move would save cap space.Unless they move Payne (unlikely), there's no one who's going to cost them cap space. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 should we give Derek Barnett a look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 18 hours ago, MrJL said: should we give Derek Barnett a look? Nope...total bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warhead36 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Wouldn't mind Williams but I'd like to give Stromberg a shot at the starting C job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: You follow the dolphins closely. They have a handful of key FAs coming up, are currently over the cap by $20M next season, and have a lot of big, unfriendly cap hit contracts on the books. Do you see them being able to keep what they have going, or are they expected to make big changes next season? Edited November 27, 2023 by Ball Security Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: I love Luvu. He is one of the three guys I've been advocating for hard to get in FA assuming schematic fit (the others being Hunter and Evans). This is his second Pro Bowl caliber year in a row and he is a hell of a run defender and pass rusher. If we end up going to a 3-4 next year, he'd be a fantastic ILB. Dude is a blue chip pickup in the right scheme 3 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Wouldn't mind Williams but I'd like to give Stromberg a shot at the starting C job. I hope Stromberg can become a contributor but I would absolutely bring in strong competition for him, whether it be FA or the draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Ball Security said: You follow the dolphins closely. They have a handful of key FAs coming up, are currently over the cap by $20M next season, and have a lot of big, unfriendly cap hit contracts on the books. Do you see them being able to keep what they have going, or are they expected to make big changes next season? they are 36 million over the cap for 2024 so they i think are unlikely to pay big to keep their FAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 41 minutes ago, method man said: If we end up going to a 3-4 next year, he'd be a fantastic ILB. Don't even joke about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, MrJL said: Don't even joke about that We have PTSD because we had idiot DCs and a lack of talent. We are actually as equipped for a 3-4 as a 4-3 moving forward. The “cinco package” is basically a 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 36 minutes ago, method man said: We have PTSD because we had idiot DCs and a lack of talent. We are actually as equipped for a 3-4 as a 4-3 moving forward. The “cinco package” is basically a 3-4 Very few of our DEs are potential OLBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, MrJL said: Very few of our DEs are potential OLBs. ? very few of our DE’s are potential DE’s either, what does it matter? We have very little in terms of EDGE talent and investment right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvernon Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 hours ago, method man said: I hope Stromberg can become a contributor but I would absolutely bring in strong competition for him, whether it be FA or the draft. I think you draft a C in Round 5-6 with the potential for starting. Chase Roullier style. I think there may be a handful this year to choose from. Do the same thing next year, and if one of those Day 3 guys becomes the starting C then you slide Stromberg over to LG. You draft your OTs high in Day 1-2, but use day 3 for the interior - maybe day 2 for RG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 27 minutes ago, Silvernon said: I think you draft a C in Round 5-6 with the potential for starting. Chase Roullier style. I think there may be a handful this year to choose from. Do the same thing next year, and if one of those Day 3 guys becomes the starting C then you slide Stromberg over to LG. You draft your OTs high in Day 1-2, but use day 3 for the interior - maybe day 2 for RG. No offense but I live in Philly area and have to watch Jason Kelce anchor the Eagles line every week and it makes me realize how important he is and how much he has helped Hurts. I'll spend money in free agency to get the top center over the option of a late round draft pick. I'd take the sure thing free agent center and fill in from there using the draft/free agency. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 34 minutes ago, kingdaddy said: No offense but I live in Philly area and have to watch Jason Kelce anchor the Eagles line every week and it makes me realize how important he is and how much he has helped Hurts. I'll spend money in free agency to get the top center over the option of a late round draft pick. I'd take the sure thing free agent center and fill in from there using the draft/free agency. Agreed. I want a stud at center who can truly anchor the rest of the line and help Sam out. Free agent centers are not particularly expensive either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Stromberg could be ready to start next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown43 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, method man said: Agreed. I want a stud at center who can truly anchor the rest of the line and help Sam out. Free agent centers are not particularly expensive either Make the Guard and Center from Miami priority signings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 According to Keim from what he was told, there isn't a great communicator back there in the secondary and its needed. I liked McKinney before the draft. He's been a good player for NY. He's a team captain, too. Assume he's a good communicator but I don't know. I am not breaking the bank for Curl. He has one pick in his career. He's a good player. But if his dad is right and he's demanding top 5 safety money, I am not giving that to him, if another team offers that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 19 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Wouldn't mind Williams but I'd like to give Stromberg a shot at the starting C job. Get the veteran. Everything about building the OL becomes so much easier if you can add a high quality veteran OC. You can experiment with young guards and still hold up. You can let him handle the protections for your young QB. That said, I would rather go after a guard like Hunt specifically, because I think Hunt is the bigger talent. He was one of my favorite OL prospects from his draft class, and it took the Dolphins years to develop him and Austin Jackson into good players. I'd love to sign one of them and skip the development phase. I'm not that high on Stromberg, and appear to be one of the only people who didn't like his Arkansas film and didn't like his upside. He hasn't gotten a chance here, but I also wouldn't have given him one in the first place, so I'm not making any future roster building decisions around him if I were in charge. To me, building a good OL would involve getting a prospect or vet center I like more than Stromberg. Center is one of those perplexing positions because, on the surface it's not that valuable vis a vis the rest of your offense. Their assignments are literally the easiest on the offense on a snap by snap basis. They always get to either double or block a smaller player. They don't have to be as strong and elite of an athlete as the guards, who get to single block the Jonathan Allens and Aaron Donalds and Dexter Lawrences of the NFL. But center is a major force multiplier position because it's a leadership position with more reading responsibilities than anyone else on the offense after the QB. Great centers lead great OLs, and lines and whole offenses collapse when they lose their great center. That vaunted Eagles line would turn to **** if Kelce went down midseason. That's one of the reasons we beat them last season, when they were still undefeated. He's been trying to retire and they've basically begged him to stay on until they can get Jurgens ready to replace him. They know their short term SB window closes without Kelce, he's the second most crucial player on their roster after Hurts. They could lose AJ Brown or Lane Johnson (and have) or anyone on their defense and not miss a beat as they win another SB. Just can't lose Kelce or Hurts. We need to get that kind of mainstay at Center, and Stromberg wouldn't be my best effort at doing so if I were GM. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Curl can kick rocks if he thinks he is getting Bates money. He's an average DB. X McKinney would be a huge get for this defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Given the veiled shot he took at Wink, I don’t think the Giants are bringing McKinney back either. We have inhouse options at SS/buffalo nickel. We need an upgrade at FS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I'd like to sign two OL and then draft another two. The best route is probably signing G and C and then drafting two Ts. Cosmi can be the only holdover but this OL absolutely needs 4/5 overhauled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I disagree with many on Leno. He is not great and he doesn’t suck. There are certain matchups he will struggle with like Thibodeaux but he has been solid overall. I think he looks even better playing next to a veteran guard who knows how to handle stunts (like he did in 2021 playing next to Flowers). I am ok with taking 2 tackles but I am ok with letting the round 2 guy sit and learn behind Leno as Leno plays out the final year of his deal (which is $7M or so in net cost to us when you factor for cap savings if you cut him) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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