Koolblue13 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: They also called a game plan like they were playing against a team with a solid pass rush and good linebackers. Some dink and dunk, quick hitters, run the ball. Take the long shot when it presents itself. Street FA, but EB promoted Charles before he was even in the building. Davis instead of Darrisaw in a draft with a bunch of now starting LBers in the 2/3rd. Next year is gonna be awesome. I just hope we don't have to blow too much stuff up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Vikings GM is the type of GM I hope we hire. Bright young guy who has worked his way up under multiple good executives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrJL Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 52 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: . Street FA, but EB promoted Charles before he was even in the building. Davis instead of Darrisaw in a draft with a bunch of now starting LBers in the 2/3rd. Next year is gonna be awesome. I just hope we don't have to blow too much stuff up. Saahdiq Charles was a 4th round draft pick for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, MrJL said: Saahdiq Charles was a 4th round draft pick for us Correct, who never saw the field until we hired EB. Risner was a street FA and upgrade we ignored for Charles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre The Giant Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I'd definitely listen to offers for Sweat, but I'd prefer to keep Young unless a team offers us something crazy(like multiple 1s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins 2021 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 What is the trade value of Sweat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, Redskins 2021 said: What is the trade value of Sweat? High end is a 2nd if you comp relative to the deal Chubb got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Andre The Giant said: I’d happily trade both of them. We need to start over. Im personally looking forward to this season being in the book. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: I’d happily trade both of them. We need to start over. Im personally looking forward to this season being in the book. Harris should resign Young and plan to franchise Sweat and allow next regime to manage it all. Rather next regime decide what to do with best talent on the roster. Such little value in selling these dudes to team looking to take advantage and pounce. Draft compensation for good players is a waste on the aggregate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, wit33 said: Harris should resign Young and plan to franchise Sweat and allow next regime to manage it all. Rather next regime decide what to do with best talent on the roster. Such little value in selling these dudes to team looking to take advantage and pounce. Draft compensation for good players is a waste on the aggregate. I can’t see that being a balanced use of our available resource at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Bears OG Cody Whitehair might be available. I know he's struggled, but was once a highly rated prospect. I know we're selling but heck, a phone call can't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: They also called a game plan like they were playing against a team with a solid pass rush and good linebackers. Some dink and dunk, quick hitters, run the ball. Take the long shot when it presents itself. Street FA, but EB promoted Charles before he was even in the building. Davis instead of Darrisaw in a draft with a bunch of now starting LBers in the 2/3rd. Next year is gonna be awesome. I just hope we don't have to blow too much stuff up. I don’t know if people watched the Manning cast last night. But Peyton kept talking about how they had a different set of plays for when Bosa was off the field. Quick, short throws when he’s in. Shots down field when he’s off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 39 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: I can’t see that being a balanced use of our available resource at all. I see it as a matter of holding your cards close and waiting for the next regime to make their moves. I understand it might be challenging, given that both are set to become free agents in the same year 😕. Keep both knowing each will have value turn the market with or without a long term contract. It will demand some creative thinking. Simply letting go of valuable or exceptional players for a fraction of their worth doesn't make sense. I have zero interest in trading Sweat for a second-round pick; the chances of that pick becoming even an average starter are slim. If we can acquire other players in exchange, that's when I get interested. At the moment, the impending massive overhaul makes things complex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, method man said: High end is a 2nd if you comp relative to the deal Chubb got Depends really on how many pass rushers are available at the deadline. It would make sense that Burns will be out there. Were there other guys who got moved when Chubb was traded? I can’t remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) I doubt its on Ron's radar, he basically suggested yesterday that he takes pride on the idea of not making moves. He's the anti-Howie Roseman Edited October 24, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I'm not sure the best place to post this but for all the criticism of Ron not making moves... I felt like our former owner checked out about the time the Washington Redskins became the Washington Football Team, and when you combine that with rumors of him being cash strapped that might tie hands somewhat. Every offseason we got one big move and then just kind screwed around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: I doubt its on Ron's radar, he basically suggested yesterday that he takes pride on the idea of not making moves. He's the anti-Howie Roseman The reason La'el has not been signed by anyone yet is because he wants a boatload of money. I'm not sure they can fit him in under the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 hours ago, method man said: The reason La'el has not been signed by anyone yet is because he wants a boatload of money. I'm not sure they can fit him in under the cap. They can try. There are numerous players they can cut to try to make room. Or restructure… oh wait… we don’t have a GM in place to do any of that because… wait, why doesn’t Harris have someone watching over things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, KDawg said: They can try. There are numerous players they can cut to try to make room. Or restructure… oh wait… we don’t have a GM in place to do any of that because… wait, why doesn’t Harris have someone watching over things? Keim who seems to be plugged in with that ownership group seemed to hint that he thinks they do have someone overlooking all of this on his behalf, then sort of backed off when Sheehan pressed him on the point. It came off like he was told, yes, and either was told to be quiet about it or he wasn't 100% sure. That's the vibe I got. I was half listening to this part so I'd need to relisten to see if I mistook it. Edited October 25, 2023 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Keim who seems to be plugged in with that ownership group seemed to hint that he thinks they do have someone overlooking all of this on his behalf, then sort of backed off when Sheehan pressed him on the point. It came off like he was told, yes, and either was told to be quiet about it or he wasn't 100% sure. That's the vibe I got. I was half listening to this part so I'd need to relisten to see if I mistook it. Rons demeanor definitely has a "someone looking over his shoulder" vibe about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 hours ago, KDawg said: They can try. There are numerous players they can cut to try to make room. Or restructure… oh wait… we don’t have a GM in place to do any of that because… wait, why doesn’t Harris have someone watching over things? I think Harris has people observing, but people have been posting here for a couple years now that until he’s fired Rivera has final say on the football side, contractually. They argue that trying to bring someone in over him for things like this would be a bit of an ugly mess. So until Harris thinks it’s appropriate to make a move on Rivera, the ball’s in his court, allegedly. I’m not sure how legally sound that is. I personally think the idea that Rivera has contractual final say, legally speaking, may be overstated. Bad owners interfere all around the league with their top football people (who all have fully guaranteed contracts) and are never sued, right? So none of those GM’s has the iron-clad legal right to final say that Rivera allegedly does, because he’s some sort of forward-thinking genius who demanded it? How believable is that really? Shanahan never had that protection here? I just find myself doubting it’s that cut and dry and that Rivera working for Snyder is the only notable dude to ever work for a bad owner to insist on this contractual power. And I find myself doubting that even in the final desperate years of his tenure, Snyder would have given that up, legally speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Rons demeanor definitely has a "someone looking over his shoulder" vibe about it. The thing I don't like for Ron's sake about his last year here his behavior-rhetoric is off putting. Leading up to this year, I think we can easily say he's a very likeable guy. But his public stances doesn't make him come off likeable this off season -- he comes off defensive, delusional and arrogant. Where he really stated to lose me purely as to likability was all of his pro Dan comments when he didn't have to say a word, Dan was already out. Then so much of his other rhetoric is a combination of arrogance, defensiveness blame-shifting, We've seen of course other coaches leave where you feel good riddance at the time. I used to think even wanting Ron gone once it was clear ownership was going to shift, I'd still feel a bit bad for Ron but now I don't. If they have a losing season and fans continue to crap on Ron all over social media -- it feels like a karma he's earned. I didn't feel remotely like that at the beginning of this off season. Edited October 25, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Rons demeanor definitely has a "someone looking over his shoulder" vibe about it. Keim suggesting that Ron's outward rhetoric of this season is a start over because of Sam so almost look at it as year 1 of this rebuild because this team is so young. Ironically on age, this team is actually the 15th youngest. And people (fans) should be paitent with Ron and look at the future more so than the present. That's Ron's sell behind the scenes too. I gather and hope that ownership can read through Ron's BS. Among a series of dumb and off putting comments Ron has made this off season -- for me in that mix was his long explanation about how they aren't making any moves, the calavry isn't coming -- implying heck we aren't at that stage in this team's development, lets ride with our youngsters in this rebuild takes the cake for me. I wonder if Ron's delusion extends to himself that he actually believes in what he's saying. I suspect that he does. But for me, and I gather based on social media some other fans too not only can't wait to see Ron gone but also find his behavior-rhetoric off putting to the extent that he's lost some of that good will that he had earlier. Edited October 25, 2023 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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