tshile Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: I hope you’re right. I just want to be proud of my team. I want to feel good about being a fan. I feel like an idiot even saying they’re my favorite team. I want a new owner, and I want to know we’ll be better with change at the top. idk, man. It hurts, everything hurts Well. Openly root for everything to go yo **** to get snyder out - and people stop thinking you’re an idiot hope for a quick sale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, tshile said: Well. Openly root for everything to go yo **** to get snyder out - and people stop thinking you’re an idiot hope for a quick sale. Oh rest assured I’ll be cheering for losses the rest of the season. I even tried to lead a sell the team chant at the game today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinhan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) ok lets all be honest here... This season... who cares about wins and losses... who cares if the coaches need to be fired or not... It is all about Snyder selling the team... the ENTIRE team... lets get new ownership in here and clear house!! Elon Musk style! Edited November 7, 2022 by sjinhan 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, sjinhan said: ok lets all be honest here... This seasons... who cares about wins and losses... who cares if the coaches need to be fired or not... It is all about Snyder selling the team... the ENTIRE team... lets get new ownership in here and clear house!! Elon Musk style! After todays loss…..agreed 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinhan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: After todays loss…..agreed 100%. as terrible as it sounds... I am ready for Washington Prime! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Well. Guess nobody agrees with my pessimistic view on the franchises outlook. That’s a first, me being the pessimistic one and everyone else being the opposite….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Well. Guess nobody agrees with my pessimistic view on the franchises outlook. That’s a first, me being the pessimistic one and everyone else being the opposite….. You’re the dude that zigs when everyone else is zagging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Captain James said: Do you "fire everyone" people realize that brother Cooleyfan would get canned? How dare you! Don’t care. Every Snyder employee needs to be eventually expunged. They are infected with the Snyder culture. The new owner needs to bring in his own people for all areas of Commanders organization. His people will crush anything the Snyder people can do. Cooleyfan can find a job elsewhere; should be plenty in the dc area. Edited November 7, 2022 by 88Comrade2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Well. Guess nobody agrees with my pessimistic view on the franchises outlook. That’s a first, me being the pessimistic one and everyone else being the opposite….. Because it makes no sense. Congrats, you caught up to the negativity everyone else had after years of being a homer. But now we have actual hope and, assuming the sale happens, no logical reason not to expect things to eventually improve under new ownership. We have no other information. Feeling negatively about that is as lacking in fact-based thinking as the prior positivity people gave you **** for lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, tshile said: You’re the dude that zigs when everyone else is zagging So I shouldn’t think badly of the franchises outlook when a bad franchise is all I’ve known? Why should I be ridiculed for thinking the worst, if the worst is all I’ve known? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 hours ago, rick7423 said: First of all, it feels like an early Christmas present having Dan (potentially) selling the team. BUT, with regard to any potential new ownership(s), what does the fan base expect from them? What should they do to make this team better? Hire a Gm. GM hires the coach. Upgrade the team facilities. Have a top notch scouting staff. Get a new stadium. Have a plan with Gm and coach to build the team into a winner. Draft a qb. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Conn said: Because it makes no sense. Congrats, you caught up to the negativity everyone else had after years of being a homer. But now we have actual hope and, assuming the sale happens, no logical reason not to expect things to eventually improve under new ownership. We have no other information. Feeling negatively about that is as lacking in fact-based thinking as the prior positivity people gave you **** for lol Don’t get me wrong, I’m hoping with all hope that things change under new ownership. All I’m saying is, since depression is all I’ve known with this franchise, it’s what I’ll continue to think will happen until I’m shown differently. is a “prove it to me” mood such a bad thing? Why shouldn’t I want this organization to prove it to me? Doesn’t everyone want this organization to prove it to them? Edited November 7, 2022 by Cooleyfan1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Don’t get me wrong, I’m hoping with all hope that things change under new ownership. All I’m saying is, since depression is all I’ve known with this franchise, it’s what I’ll continue to think will happen until I’m shown differently. is a “prove it to me” mood such a bad thing? Why shouldn’t I want this organization to prove it to me? You should want the organization to prove it to you, definitely. But you asked people to tell you why you could be wrong, and they’re answering you. You can still choose to wait and see. You’re just about a half decade or more late to this downward spiral. Everyone else already hit rock bottom and is taking great pleasure at the mere whiff of an opportunity to start the long walk back up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Conn said: You should want the organization to prove it to you, definitely. But you asked people to tell you why you could be wrong, and they’re answering you. You can still choose to wait and see. You’re just about a half decade or more late to this downward spiral. Everyone else already hit rock bottom and is taking great pleasure at the mere whiff of an opportunity to start the long walk back up. Yeah, and again, I’m taking great pleasure in the mere whiff of the opportunity too. Im hoping for as quick a sale as ever. who cares how long it took me to get to this downward spiral, as long as I’m there NOW? im ready for new ownership ASAP. I think I made that pretty clear. And I want them to give me a reason to be hopeful of consistent winning seasons. That’s all I ask, that they give me a reason to be hopeful. Maybe it’s the loss today that has me feeling like being a fan of this team the rest of my life is hopeless. That’s 100% a possibility. After all……losing sucks. Edited November 7, 2022 by Cooleyfan1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 We could go 0-17 for the next 3 years while the team attempts to do a full rebuild Nationals-style and I'd be a kid in a candy shop knowing that Snyder is gone. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnySideUp Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Sadly, the guy's "punishment" will be possibly the biggest windfall in sports history, as they say here. I hate to see him rewarded by just getting filthy richer but it will be worth it just to see him gone. As far as I'm concerned, he can take his yacht, it's IMAX theater and a many years' supply of movies and cruise the Indian Ocean, Antartica or wherever the heck he wants to on it indefinitely, just to unload the team and stay away from here. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/washington-commanders-nfl-owner-dan-snyder-gets-last-laugh-rcna55687 >>The NFL's worst owner will get the last laugh Daniel Snyder is under tremendous pressure to sell the once-proud Washington Commanders. His punishment will be the biggest windfall in American sports history... ....One of the foundational moments in the modern history of sports social justice — in professional leagues stepping up and doing "the right thing" — came in 2014, when the new NBA commissioner, Adam Silver, held a news conference and declared Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling “banned for life” from the league for wildly racist comments. You can make an argument that Silver’s powerful statement fortified the NBA’s place as the “progressive” sports league and set in motion the age of athlete activism and empowerment that exploded in its wake. It felt like the good guys had won. But it is also worth remembering what Sterling’s banishment really meant. Because he was an owner of a team, rather than an employee or a player, Silver couldn’t really “ban” him any more than President Joe Biden could “ban” Elon Musk from owning Twitter. What he could do is put enough pressure on him that he felt compelled to sell his team, which, thanks in large to Sterling’s estranged wife, eventually happened. So Sterling — again, truly one of the most loathsome characters in the last 50 years of sports — had to suffer the ultimate punishment: He was forced to accept $2 billion of Steve Ballmer’s money for his team. This is how sports owners are really punished. This is as bad as it gets for them. And these lessons feel newly relevant as the NFL’s Daniel Snyder car-crash continues in slow motion. Snyder, the longtime owner of the Washington Commanders (a name he once refused to change and only did so after years of unrelenting pressure), announced Wednesday that he and his wife, Tanya, had hired Bank of America to “consider potential transactions.” It’s a move that could signal a potential sale of the team. (Tanya Snyder, non-Washington fans may or may not remember, became the team’s co-CEO last year, a position she was promoted to after the team was hit with a cavalcade of sexual harassment lawsuits, including several specifically pointing at Snyder. Snyder has denied any wrongdoing.) Snyder has fought off calls to sell the team throughout his reign in Washington as the city has watched a once-proud franchise flounder on the field and off, constantly embarrassing the league with scandal after scandal. (Here’s a chronicle of many of the allegations, but note that piece is 10 years old.) Now, the walls seem to finally be closing in, with other owners calling for him to sell the team and an investigation from the U.S. Attorney’s office involving financial improprieties (an attorney representing the Commanders told ESPN any such "allegations are simply untrue.") Snyder is not officially selling the team yet — it’s possible he has brought in Bank of America as a diversionary tactic — but even that is a sign that he is, at last, facing some serious headwinds. Of course, sports owners’ headwinds are a lot different than yours and mine. Just like Don Sterling, Snyder’s worst-case scenario is, well, a pretty wonderful one for him. If Snyder does end up selling the team, he could end up ranking in more money than anyone has ever received for a sports franchise. Forbes estimates that the Commanders are the sixth-most valuable franchise in the NFL, valued at $5.6 billion, a truly remarkable sum considering how much damage has been done to that team’s reputation. The most lucrative franchise sale in United States sports history came just last year, when the Walton-Penner group bought the Denver Broncos for $4.65 billion. Washington — with its vast fanbase, storied history and status as, still, one of the NFL’s jewel franchises — would almost surely surpass that. Which means Daniel Snyder’s punishment will be the biggest windfall in American sports history. Just like Don Sterling, Snyder’s worst-case scenario is, well, a pretty wonderful one for him. If you or I — or, more to the point, a Washington executive or a player — were to ravage the reputation of one of the most sterling brands in American sports, either via scandal or repeated, sustained incompetence, we would get fired. We would lose our jobs, we would be mocked in the public square, we’d likely have a very hard time finding anyone willing to hire us in such a position again. We would face the ramifications of all that we had done, all the mistakes we had made, all the venality we’d foisted upon an unsuspecting public. Daniel Snyder, though, like Donald Sterling before him, will face no such punishment. He will in fact become richer than he already is, again, just like Sterling did when he sold his team. To be fair, Washington Commanders fans will benefit if Snyder sells the team and someone less buffoonish and cruel (and incredibly shady) buys it. The team might even start winning games again. The NFL will also benefit if Snyder sells the team, as will the employees who alleged they have long suffered under his leadership. It’s possible a long-needed new stadium could finally materialize. Heck, the world will benefit if Snyder sells the team, if just not to have to hear about him anymore. But let there be no doubt about it: If Snyder sells the team, no one on earth will benefit more than Daniel Snyder. We should all face such worst-case scenarios.<< Edited November 7, 2022 by SonnySideUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 6 hours ago, sjinhan said: ok lets all be honest here... This season... who cares about wins and losses... who cares if the coaches need to be fired or not... It is all about Snyder selling the team... the ENTIRE team... lets get new ownership in here and clear house!! Elon Musk style! Nah, I can chew gum and walk at same time as a fan. And Musk is reportedly trying to bring some folks back that he let go, so Musk style is a no go from me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Everything Dan Snyder touches turns to **** whereas everything Bezos touches turns to Gold. The man literally flew himself to Space. What has Dan ever done besides try to ruin a Six Flags and Johnny Rockets? He's a ****ing buffoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 hours ago, Phantvm said: I personally just can’t wait to see more and more news trickle out about the sale of this franchise. I feel rejuvenated as a fan in this team for the first time in a long long time. Yeah me too. I look forward to this thread and reading the pages and pages of posts I have missed even though we all keep saying the same things. It's just such a nice read. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 It really is disheartening watching folks post that they couldn't care less about how terrible a person a new owner is as long as it's not Snyder, sugar coating or outright ignoring red flags left and right. Snyder has to go, but out of all the billionaires in the world to think he's the worst and we can't do worse is naive at best, completely lost in the moment of hope to finally be rid of him. Needing to do better then Snyder does not mean anything is better then Snyder. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: It really is disheartening watching folks post that they couldn't care less about how terrible a person a new owner is as long as it's not Snyder, sugar coating or outright ignoring red flags left and right. Snyder has to go, but out of all the billionaires in the world to think he's the worst and we can't do worse is naive at best, completely lost in the moment of hope to finally be rid of him. Needing to do better then Snyder does not mean anything is better then Snyder. Snyder is the rare combination of a guy who accumulated massive wealth all the while having zero positive traits. Every billionaire is going to leave something to be desired. To continue to be a fan of pro sports teams, you have to be willing to accept this on some level. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Snyder is the rare combination of a guy who accumulated massive wealth all the while having zero positive traits. Every billionaire is going to leave something to be desired. To continue to be a fan of pro sports teams, you have to be willing to accept this on some level. Tired of this talking point like all billionaires have an equal amount of dirt and skeletons in their closet, they don't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Tired of this talking point like all billionaires have an equal amount of dirt and skeletons in their closet, they don't. Where did I say equal? And how would we even know, considering they have the type of money and power to keep their skeletons in the closet? Generally speaking though, it’s hard to accumulate a billion+ without stepping on people on the way there. My real point here is that Snyder has no redeeming qualities, which is why it’s difficult to find someone worse than him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Where did I say equal? And how would we even know, considering they have the type of money and power to keep their skeletons in the closet? Generally speaking though, it’s hard to accumulate a billion+ without stepping on people on the way there. By constantly saying all billionaires have done bad things at some point, you and others are diluting the reality that some have clearly done worse then others. 19 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: My real point here is that Snyder has no redeeming qualities, which is why it’s difficult to find someone worse than him. Agree to disagree since this isn't the tailgate, plenty of threads I've addressed this point in that part of the forum. If Bezos buys the team, I may have no choice but take similar approach I took with Washington Post, cautious nervous and vigilant. We can do better. Edited November 7, 2022 by Renegade7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actorguy1 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Impatiently waiting for local media to acknowledge and react to the Jay Glazer report on Fox Sports yesterday. Are Glazer's sources usually accurate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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