Darrell Green Fan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 11 hours ago, zCommander said: If you are saying Howell is short and that is why the balls are batted away then you better not pine for Caleb Williams as he is also 6' 1". Only if you believe Sam Howell is actually 6'1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said: Only if you believe Sam Howell is actually 6'1" That’s a combine measurement, is it not? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philibusters Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said: Only if you believe Sam Howell is actually 6'1" Howell is 6 feet and 3/8ths of an inch. He got officially measured at the combine, so there is a definite answer for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 At the end of the Bills game we all knew what was coming for Sam. Everyone knew that Sam would look like this at the end of the season. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, philibusters said: Howell is 6 feet and 3/8ths of an inch. He got officially measured at the combine, so there is a definite answer for that one. I am not seeing this. On Pro Day they are saying 6' 1". Are they just rounding it up then? Okay one website is saying: HEIGHT: 6'0 5/8" Another is saying: Height: 6'0 1/4″ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac8887 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, zCommander said: I am not seeing this. On Pro Day they are saying 6' 1". Are they just rounding it up then? Sam has some beautiful hair, but it stands really tall, I wonder if they patted his hair down when they measured him because if not it added at least an inch and a half 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) Draftkings.com Height: 6’3” Edited December 18, 2023 by zCommander 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philibusters Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, zCommander said: I am not seeing this. On Pro Day they are saying 6' 1". Are they just rounding it up then? Okay one website is saying: HEIGHT: 6'0 5/8" Another is saying: Height: 6'0 1/4″ It looks like I misremembered. It appears 6'0 and 5/8ths was the official measurement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, philibusters said: It looks like I misremembered. It appears 6'0 and 5/8ths was the official measurement. It was. https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Sam&l=Howell&i=30763 72.63 inches = 6'0 5/8ths On a side note...why are people bringing up Geno Smith? He's had one good season in a 10 year career. He was really good last season and now he's come back down to mediocrity, throwing for 15 TDs and 9 INTs and under 3,000 yards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Seriously, what's a half inch among friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 44 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: At the end of the Bills game we all knew what was coming for Sam. Everyone knew that Sam would look like this at the end of the season. Honestly I had hoped he would be better than this. I'm not surprised at all. He is not getting any help what-so-ever from anyone else on the team. Coaches or players. Hes new and its a tough job. Its a lot, for sure. So his failure makes sense. But I did have hope like I always do. 5 minutes ago, DWinzit said: Seriously, what's a half inch among friends? Depends on the kind of friend 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Tomb Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 45 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: At the end of the Bills game we all knew what was coming for Sam. Everyone knew that Sam would look like this at the end of the season. Upgrade the offensive line, bring in a stud LT like Fashanu, and then see what he can do. If the running game was more of a factor, as well, it would really help him out and keep the defenses guessing. I'm out on EB being the HC next year. He was clearly riding the coattails of Andy Reid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 12 hours ago, zCommander said: You are right skill set matters over height sometimes. Plenty of less taller QB have been successful in NFL. Wilson and Hurts for example as well. Howell's balls don't get tipped a lot though was my point. The OL being pushed into Sam's face is why the balls are getting tipped. Field a better OL and some of these issue will just go away. For what it is worth, even the taller QBs balls get tipped from time to time. Sam leads the league in batted passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, mac8887 said: Sam has some beautiful hair, but it stands really tall, I wonder if they patted his hair down when they measured him because if not it added at least an inch and a half He still looks like he just rolled out of bed at noon from his college dorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 If I say “Howell’s ceiling is Mayfield/Minshew (and I feel like I’m being generous here) and I think we need to keep looking for our guy.”, is the forum gonna be mean to me again? Cause when I wanted to pump the brakes in October, folks got all kinda salty and it made me sad. Being so knowledgeable and prescient can really be burdensome at times. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac8887 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, TradeTheBeal! said: If I say “Howell’s ceiling is Mayfield/Minshew (and I feel like I’m being generous here) and I think we need to keep looking for our guy.”, is the forum gonna be mean to me again? Cause when I wanted to pump the brakes in October, folks got all kinda salty and it made me sad. Being so knowledgeable and prescient can really be burdensome at times. How dare you criticize our prophet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said: At the end of the Bills game we all knew what was coming for Sam. Everyone knew that Sam would look like this at the end of the season. Which is why I thought it was rather disingenuous when folks were saying a few weeks ago that he’s got X games left to solidify himself moving forward. I knew with 100% certainty after the team scored to close the deficit before the half on Thanksgiving and the D immediately gave up 7 to negate it, that was the nail in the coffin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, TradeTheBeal! said: If I say “Howell’s ceiling is Mayfield/Minshew (and I feel like I’m being generous here) and I think we need to keep looking for our guy.”, is the forum gonna be mean to me again? Cause when I wanted to pump the brakes in October, folks got all kinda salty and it made me sad. Being so knowledgeable and prescient can really be burdensome at times. 13 minutes ago, mac8887 said: How dare you criticize our prophet I don't think you would, no. I think sufficient time has passed and Howell's body language looks like he's broken. The discussions of us looking for a new QB have been rampant... since during the game... and no one has been jumped on. Discussions are occurring, for sure, and some are opposed. But no one is adamant that we HAVE to stay the course. He's Ramsey'd. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KDawg said: I don't think you would, no. I think sufficient time has passed and Howell's body language looks like he's broken. He's Ramsey'd. Unfortunately Edited December 18, 2023 by RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac8887 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, HigSkin said: That is taylor Heinike language 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, HigSkin said: This is how you describe Colt McCoy, Heinicke, Minshew, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodpecker Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I know it’s taboo not to worship Sam on this thread, but can we at least now admit he’s no Josh Allen?? Asking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, woodpecker said: I know it’s taboo not to worship Sam on this thread, but can we at least now admit he’s no Josh Allen?? Asking for a friend. I've seen zero hero worship in this thread. I've seen people pretend that Howell plays in a vacuum and should shoulder every bit of blame, and then be corrected. Maybe your friend should have the courage to ask his own dumb questions. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Congrats to the people taking their victory laps right now, we can still cripple our QBs like nobody's business. Ron has a nice tradition of never having a QB start every game of the season. Would be a shame to break that tradition now. But I'd rather do it with Fromm and his QB sneaks. Wait, we don't do QB sneaks. TE sneaks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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