Voice_of_Reason Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Skinsfan1311 said: This. Never. Gets. Old! 🍻😂 Actually... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 3 hours ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: Wilson = 3rd round pick Brees = 2nd round pick Bryce Young and Kyler Murray had elite college production which likely allowed them to overcome height concerns. Wait, so there's a production limit in college that allows you to overcome height in the NFL? What is the height cutoff for who can truly become an elite NFL QB? What's the ratio of college production vs height? Do you gain an inch of functional height with every 20 TDs? So if you're 6'0 but you tossed 40 TDs in college you can pretend you're 6'2? I'm not trying to be a smartass but it doesn't strike me as an overly convincing argument because it's pretty vague. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwvr Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I broke down and listened to the Sheehan podcast, at least part of it, just to see if it was worth adding back to the rotation. The answer was a resounding "nope." On Howell, he just CAN'T get off the point that he didn't believe in him over the summer and repeatedly said he thought Brissett should start. ** I'm picking up that narrative from others, I didn't listen to confirm. BUT in the podcast I did listen to, he started with "Yes he was great. BUT that doesn't mean anything. We don't know what he's going to develop into based on beating Arizona and Denver." Which, while somewhat true, just came off as "I can't say I was wrong for wanting Brissett to start. So, I'll say Howell was good but we still don't know." At least that' show it played to me. Then he gave him an A- grade, and said he was the best QB we've had in ages. I was predicting "Since Kirk." But he didn't actually say it. And then heaped more complements on him. The juxtoposition of the "Yeah he played really well, he's going to develop" contrasted with the "I can't say I might have been wrong so I'm just going to say we don't know yet" was odd at best and off putting at worst. Contrast that to Bram, who said on his radio show yesterday, "I was entirely wrong about everything I predicted about the game, except for one thing." (The one thing is the Broncos would wear down at the end of the game.) He stepped up and said everything he predicted was wrong. I appreciate that. Sheehan has turned into a thin skinned, gambling obsessed, somewhat bland podcast host who teeters between "captain obvious," "contrarian take" (which he picked up from gambling), and carnival barker/shock jock. From time to time (at least before I stopped listening to his drek) he would have moments of brilliance, but they were too few and far between for me. I hope you listen to Galdi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, tomwvr said: I hope you listen to Galdi. Daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fan since a Fetus Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Anthony Mix is sooooo 2008. He was only 6’5. He could still be that tall, I don’t know. but you know what I do know? Cole Turner is 6’6. It’s obvious that Cole Turner should be our QB. I don’t know how the coaches are missing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 He keeps it up and we’re going to be a media darling very soon 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Something wasn’t right on that play above. Two receivers running to that same spot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 In 2 games Sam has just over 500 yards passing, but we don’t have a single receiver who has 100 yards cumulative over those two games. Terry leads receivers with 85 yards - but doesn’t have the most targets. 10 players have caught a pass. The ball is being spread around. This is a good thing - it’s also another tick in the box for Sam, he’s not keying in one or two receivers and forcing the ball. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, MartinC said: In 2 games Sam has just over 500 yards passing, but we don’t have a single receiver who has 100 yards cumulative over those two games. Terry leads receivers with 85 yards - but doesn’t have the most targets. 10 players have caught a pass. The ball is being spread around. This is a good thing - it’s also another tick in the box for Sam, he’s not keying in one or two receivers and forcing the ball. I feel like he's just getting started. Sams playing what's called and following the reads. The more comfortable he gets, he'll start looking for Terry more. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: I feel like he's just getting started. Sams playing what's called and following the reads. The more comfortable he gets, he'll start looking for Terry more. He doesn’t need to force it to Terry. Just keep doing what he’s been doing (sans the sacks from holding it!) Terry will make his plays just like last week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, MartinC said: In 2 games Sam has just over 500 yards passing, but we don’t have a single receiver who has 100 yards cumulative over those two games. Terry leads receivers with 85 yards - but doesn’t have the most targets. 10 players have caught a pass. The ball is being spread around. This is a good thing - it’s also another tick in the box for Sam, he’s not keying in one or two receivers and forcing the ball. Was going to say the same thing. Seems like a lot if greenhorn QB's tend to Hobe in on certain guys. It can help, if that certain guy is a beast, like w Wentz/Ertz early on, or maybe Young Eli/Plaxico, but he is getting the ball to the best match-up, and that seems like a rare quality for a young guy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 4 hours ago, MartinC said: I swore off getting into PFF arguments. Then you post this and I, very much against my better judgement watched it. Now I feel compelled to write War and Peace about it. I am going to refrain with just this comment: the guy on the left had an absolutely moronic take on Sean Payton and some ridiculous tin foil hat theory I didn’t understand. I can see why Collinsworth would employ his dumb ass and put him on the air. I’m just going to let the rest of the absolute idiocy go and not start a PFF fistfight for no reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I’m just going to let the rest of the absolute idiocy go and not start a PFF fistfight for no reason. We will call that progress 🙂 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Something wasn’t right on that play above. Two receivers running to that same spot. Both receivers saw they had inside leverage and broke routes inside and ended up in the same spot. ironically, both of them came open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Something wasn’t right on that play above. Two receivers running to that same spot. That was a staple of the Scott Turner offense lol... 5 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I swore off getting into PFF arguments. Then you post this and I, very much against my better judgement watched it. Now I feel compelled to write War and Peace about it. I am going to refrain with just this comment: the guy on the left had an absolutely moronic take on Sean Payton and some ridiculous tin foil hat theory I didn’t understand. I can see why Collinsworth would employ his dumb ass and put him on the air. I’m just going to let the rest of the absolute idiocy go and not start a PFF fistfight for no reason. Did PFF fire you? Is that it? lol... Edited September 20, 2023 by Califan007 The Constipated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Sam Howell Grade: A Season Grade: B+ High-Caliber Throws/Plays: Howell's first completion of the game did come on a throw to a wide open Jahan Dotson, but he was smacked as he threw the football and it was a long attempt at the numbers. On his second read, Howell ripped a laser through a closing window over the middle to Logan Thomas for 18 yards. With under a minute to go in the first half, Howell fired a rope in the sideline hole of cover 2 to John Bates for 35 yards. Early in the third, he escaped a looping Randy Gregory and weaved his way for 12 yards on the ground. His touchdown to Terry McLaurin was spectacular. Anticipation, courage and ideal ball placement behind and over Justin Simmons. Low-Caliber Throws/Plays: Late in the second, he stepped up away from pressure then held the ball longer to take a bad sack. Summary: This was a sneaky outstanding performance from Howell in his first road start in the NFL. Didn't have an accuracy issue whatsoever, and while he did take a few sacks and was strip-sacked in the fourth quarter, he more than countered with a handful of high-caliber tosses deep down the field. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I guess NFL teams respect our receivers and Sam's arm more than 'joe public' and than national media! LOL 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 8 hours ago, MartinC said: He doesn’t need to force it to Terry. Just keep doing what he’s been doing (sans the sacks from holding it!) Terry will make his plays just like last week. Not exactly how I meant that. I'm not saying that he'll start to key in on Terry, just that he'll learn to look for him when nothing seems open. Knowing Terry will find the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Skins Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 17 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Two exceptions. Most QBs are at least 6'2'' minimum. It does matter. Doesn't mean Howell can't be good. But if he were a bit taller, he could potentially be great. I'm with Warhead on this. He's not saying Howell won't be good, just may not end up great. To quote Wilson and Mahomes as exceptions doesn't work for me as both are renowned as not being "pocket passers" and tend to scramble or roll out to throw. Whether that's cos they are shorter than average I don't know but it's interesting to me. Also we were specifically told in the offseason that the team wanted to sign shorter linemen to help Howell see the field better. As far as I know that actually didn't happen so I guess that's another knock on Rivera, but could also signal an upcoming issue for Howell running the whole playbook. 9 hours ago, MartinC said: In 2 games Sam has just over 500 yards passing, but we don’t have a single receiver who has 100 yards cumulative over those two games. Terry leads receivers with 85 yards - but doesn’t have the most targets. 10 players have caught a pass. It's playing hell with my gambling strategy! When I'm watching the game I like a bet on yards and/or TDs for McLaurin and Dotson. At least I won $500 on the win over Denver 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Voice_of_Reason Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Is that Tom Brady next to Kap? The Kirk Cousins seems to be multiplying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 @Voice_of_Reason close your eyes. this is Sam Monson, one of Galdi's favorite guests from PFF 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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