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1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:


 

Heinicke is a great story plays with a lot of heart and is clutch. But he also has below average arm strength, below average size, below average accuracy.

 

Wentz to me right now is a pure pocket passer but without a pure passers accuracy or pocket presence. 
 

Either Howell ends up the answer or we are QB shopping for the zillionith time 


I predict option C, sir…

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Heinicke is an enigma.

 

It’s hard to even describe, because he generally plays an awful game of pro football but somehow, some way pulls miracles out of his ass.  
 

I’m not even sure how you put the way he plays into words.  You’re watching and thinking there’s just no good reason this guy should lead a game winning drive, but he’s done it on several occasions.

 

I said this in the gameday thread but I think it’s most appropriate here…

 

Heinicke = Heroin.

 

Intoxicating highs, that are incredibly detrimental to your future.

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7 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Heinicke is an enigma.

 

It’s hard to even describe, because he generally plays an awful game of pro football but somehow, some way pulls miracles out of his ass.  
 

I’m not even sure how you put the way he plays into words.  You’re watching and thinking there’s just no good reason this guy should lead a game winning drive, but he’s done it on several occasions.

 

I said this in the gameday thread but I think it’s most appropriate here…

 

Heinicke = Heroin.

 

Intoxicating highs, that are incredibly detrimental to your future.

May be an image of twilight, sky and text that says 'Have a panic attack. You' ve earned it.'

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Since we're at .500, and tied for the last wild card spot in the NFC, we will not be seeing Wentz back anytime soon (more like ever again).  We'll be riding with Taylor until he gets hurt, then it's Howell's turn.  You can't sacrifice the 2nd round pick by going back to Wentz, so it's the Taylor show until he plays himself out of that spot or he gets hurt.  If we win one of these next two games (Vs. Vikings, @Eagles), then we'll probably be fighting for the wild card until the end of the season.

 

We will definitely need to draft a 1st Round QB this upcoming draft.  We might need to move up in the draft if we want to get one of the top QB's.

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25 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Heinicke is an enigma.

 

It’s hard to even describe, because he generally plays an awful game of pro football but somehow, some way pulls miracles out of his ass.  
 

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Exactly 12 QBs this week had a higher passing rating than Heinicke (98.7). That really doesn't qualify as "an awful game of pro football."

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Just now, Kelvin Bryant said:

Exactly 12 QBs this week had a higher passing rating than Heinicke (98.7). That really doesn't qualify as "an awful game of pro football."

Week 8, 2022 NFL Weekly Stats Leaders - National Football League - ESPN

Oh, my apologies.

 

My eyes and the scoreboard escapes this archaic metric you’ve cited as proof positive it wasn’t an awful game of football.

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 I think next five weeks will be telling for Heinicke.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If he goes 4 and 1 I will be a believer. I think his style of play makes him a top back up. I think injuries could be a problem for him with his style of play. 

 

Philadelphia game will be tough for him

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looking back on things the Qb we should have took is Mariota. He can run and throw alittle bit much better fit then Wentz and Heinicke. May not have made are record better but he would fit better then Wentz. Him and Heinicke are similar if one got hurt you could put other in not much change.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, samy316 said:

Since we're at .500, and tied for the last wild card spot in the NFC, we will not be seeing Wentz back anytime soon (more like ever again).  We'll be riding with Taylor until he gets hurt, then it's Howell's turn.  You can't sacrifice the 2nd round pick by going back to Wentz, so it's the Taylor show until he plays himself out of that spot or he gets hurt.  If we win one of these next two games (Vs. Vikings, @Eagles), then we'll probably be fighting for the wild card until the end of the season.

 

We will definitely need to draft a 1st Round QB this upcoming draft.  We might need to move up in the draft if we want to get one of the top QB's.

Well im expecting us to finish below 500 and still drafting mid teens. So Ron is going to draft a QB to roll with in a must win year? I dont see it. Itll be something stupid with a high floor like a guard... 

17 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said:

We're going to have a near .500 record at the end of the year and put ourselves out of the draft position to get a QB, and Rivera's going to panic and trade for Derek Carr (before the Raiders can cut him)...I can see it now.  

don't put that evil on us... 

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Just now, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Oh, my apologies.

 

My eyes and the scoreboard escapes this archaic metric you’ve cited as proof positive it wasn’t an awful game of football.

Sure, because your personal opinion completely outweighs an assessment scale developed by experts.

If you want to believe that 23 for 31 for 279 yards with a TD and a pick, plus 29 yards and a TD on the ground is awful, no power on earth can prevent you.

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44 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Heinicke is an enigma.

 

It’s hard to even describe, because he generally plays an awful game of pro football but somehow, some way pulls miracles out of his ass.  
 

I’m not even sure how you put the way he plays into words.  You’re watching and thinking there’s just no good reason this guy should lead a game winning drive, but he’s done it on several occasions.

 

I said this in the gameday thread but I think it’s most appropriate here…

 

Heinicke = Heroin.

 

Intoxicating highs, that are incredibly detrimental to your future.

He plays without fear. He has nothing to lose..right? So he is OK giving his guys a chance on a toss up ball. Not worried about stats and percentages..if he fails..he's still the backup. He is having fun...and he's fun to watch. I turned the game off after that interception and tuned in again later to see how "bad" it got. I WON'T do that again with TH at QB.

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6 minutes ago, Kelvin Bryant said:

If you want to believe that 23 for 31 for 279 yards with a TD and a pick, plus 29 yards and a TD on the ground is awful, no power on earth can prevent you.

And if you want to believe that a bunch of screens and swing passes (the big gainer to gibson was at his ankles) converted into big gains by playmakers combined with a quarterback sneak which is not a difficult play for a quarterback to make and some lob balls caught miraculously by our best player constitutes a good outing, no power on earth can prevent you.

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3 minutes ago, Kelvin Bryant said:

Sure, because your personal opinion completely outweighs an assessment scale developed by experts.

If you want to believe that 23 for 31 for 279 yards with a TD and a pick, plus 29 yards and a TD on the ground is awful, no power on earth can prevent you.

You either know damn good and well or you don’t, not sure…

 

But I cannot recall anyone citing passer rating as a means to prove a point in a decade+.  At least use QBR, of which Heinicke was only a few notches worse.

 

Prior to that final drive, of which I’ve given Heinicke credit for he was 18-26, 200 yards with a god awful pick and 10 points on the scoreboard  for 58 minutes.

 

I expect to see you posting regularly in this thread when things are going the other way. 

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11 minutes ago, Kelvin Bryant said:

If you want to believe that 23 for 31 for 279 yards with a TD and a pick, plus 29 yards and a TD on the ground is awful, no power on earth can prevent you.

I just cant with fans like this. This statement lacks any sort of context or nuance.  

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19 minutes ago, Redskins 2021 said:

 I think next five weeks will be telling for Heinicke.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If he goes 4 and 1 I will be a believer. I think his style of play makes him a top back up. I think injuries could be a problem for him with his style of play. 

 

Philadelphia game will be tough for him

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looking back on things the Qb we should have took is Mariota. He can run and throw alittle bit much better fit then Wentz and Heinicke. May not have made are record better but he would fit better then Wentz. Him and Heinicke are similar if one got hurt you could put other in not much change.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Does this guy's post look like this--full of empty space--to anyone else or is it just me? lol...(it might just be me)

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23 minutes ago, Redskins 2021 said:

 I think next five weeks will be telling for Heinicke.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If he goes 4 and 1 I will be a believer. I think his style of play makes him a top back up. I think injuries could be a problem for him with his style of play. 

 

Philadelphia game will be tough for him

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looking back on things the Qb we should have took is Mariota. He can run and throw alittle bit much better fit then Wentz and Heinicke. May not have made are record better but he would fit better then Wentz. Him and Heinicke are similar if one got hurt you could put other in not much change.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you ok? The spacing here. 

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But in true Washington fashion, could you just imagine if Heini had a strong arm? We'd could of scored the next possible Aaron Rodgers. But nah, it's us.. lol

 

I do think Heini has wrapped up being a solid backup! He's bad, he's good, he knows the system, he can be electric. Who knows, maybe Howell is the guy? We'll probably get to see his potential or non potential as the season winds down.

 

I just can't root for losses hoping to hit some lottery on a franchise caliber QB. Even if we did pick one, he'd probably tear a ligament walking into training camp. It's us, after all. 

 

Until then we should be thankful for Terry, Jahan, Curtis and Co. hopefully ripping some more soul's from the jaws of defeat!! 

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Why does the team rally around TH and get excited whenever he’s plugged in to cover the supposed starter? It’s like every QB we bring in to start the season can never secure the full support of their teammates and they wait with bated breath for TH to get the call.

 

Maybe RR and the front office should cease trading high picks for QBs that don’t know how to win locker rooms.

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