The Official Roster Thread or similar ;)

[Long Time Fan]

2 hours ago, mojo said:

I did watch the game and saw him make a nice snag over the middle and bobble 2 easy catches.  Hey, I hope I’m wrong.  I’d love nothing more than for him to blossom into a quality TE but based on the beat reporters who watch practice  say, he is a distance behind all of our other TE’s.

 

Sounds like Reyes is looking pretty good with respect to his blocking.  If so that should be more than enough to help him make the active roster.  We need our TEs 2 and 3 to be really good blockers.  IMO blocking well and contributing to special teams are the best way for the TEs after Logan Thomas to make the team.   Yes you want them to be a legitimate receiving threat, but with Terry, Logan Thomas, Curtis Samuel, Humphries, Dyami, and multiple running backs who can catch, being a good and willing blocker will make them a bigger contributor to the team.   If guys like Bates and Reyes can block well and help us establish the run game for balance, contribute in pass protection, and catch 20 to 25 passes over the course of the season then they will serve their roles well.  

[Skinsinparadise]

I was out so bringing back some old tweets I missed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[redskinss]

Was just watching mic'd up with chase young.

Jon Allen had an awesome line.

He was giving a huddle speech and said " we need to stop playing with our food"

We need to dominate. 

 

Stop playing with our food.

😆

 

[Burgundy Yoda]

This McTyer guy is going to mess around and make the roster I bet. I'd be curious to see how many CBs we go with, probably should be 5 with Apke as a flex CB/S/Special Teamer. Apke is for sure making this roster due to being able to play (albeit maybe not good) 2 positions and contribute on special teams. McCain also being CB/S is very nice for roster flexibility. 

 

TE has been one of the toughest positions for me to figure out what we're going to do. Sounds like there's 5 guys in the mix for 3 spots. Thomas is a lock, Bates is close to a lock, so it's between Reyes, RSJ, and Hemmingway for that last spot. IMO RSJ gets cut, Hemmingway goes to practice squad and Reyes makes the final roster. 

 

It must be nice for these 3rd stringers to have a competent QB in Allen to throw them the ball. I feel like he's better than a lot of other teams #3 QB so he can help guys shine. 

Edited August 16, 2021 by Burgundy Yoda

[FootballZombie]

3 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

TE has been one of the toughest positions for me to figure out what we're going to do. Sounds like there's 5 guys in the mix for 3 spots. Thomas is a lock, Bates is close to a lock, so it's between Reyes, RSJ, and Hemmingway for that last spot. IMO RSJ gets cut, Hemmingway goes to practice squad and Reyes makes the final roster. 

 

I think between TE and WR we keep an "extra guy" so we could go with 4 TE.

 

I think Danny Johnson will be the one left out and we have someone else returning kicks this year. That will open up a CB slot

 

 

[Burgundy Yoda]

2 minutes ago, FootballZombie said:

 

I think between TE and WR we keep an "extra guy" so we could go with 4 TE.

 

I think Danny Johnson will be the one left out and we have someone else returning kicks this year. That will open up a CB slot

 

 

We should probably do that with Hemmingway. I'm not sure he'll be snatched up on the PS but with two rookies, you just never know how it's going to pan out and it would be nice to have an experienced guy available on game days. Yeah, McTyer is going to take Danny Johnson's spot IMO although I haven't heard much about Darryl Roberts either. 

Edited August 16, 2021 by Burgundy Yoda

[dyst]

Pretty wild that AGG is still on the team while Harmon was released. One has at least shown something in the NFL while the other has not. It’s possible Harmon just hasn’t recovered enough from his injury or maybe just that AGG was drafted by this administration while Harmon was not.

[Ball Security]

Jordan Brailford got cut by the Vikings.  Bengals cut Pro Wells and it looks like Thad Moss May make the roster.

[Burgundy Yoda]

Just now, dyst said:

Pretty wild that AGG is still on the team while Harmon was released. One has at least shown something in the NFL while the other has not. It’s possible Harmon just hasn’t recovered enough from his injury or maybe just that AGG was drafted by this administration while Harmon was not.

That injury was devastating to the little burst that Harmon did have. From that game in Cleveland that AGG actually did something in, he looked much faster than Harmon ever has so it's probably an upside thing. 

[Always A Commander Never A Captain]

12 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

This McTyer guy is going to mess around and make the roster I bet. I'd be curious to see how many CBs we go with, probably should be 5 with Apke as a flex CB/S/Special Teamer. Apke is for sure making this roster due to being able to play (albeit maybe not good) 2 positions and contribute on special teams. McCain also being CB/S is very nice for roster flexibility.

 

Just a hunch, but I don't think the coaches view Apke as having CB-S position flexibility.

4 minutes ago, dyst said:

Pretty wild that AGG is still on the team while Harmon was released. One has at least shown something in the NFL while the other has not. It’s possible Harmon just hasn’t recovered enough from his injury or maybe just that AGG was drafted by this administration while Harmon was not.

 

AGG also has 1 extra year on his rookie contract.

[terpfan]

 

Praise for the special teams play of two LBs trying to fill out the bottom of the depth chart. I have them as the 5th and 6th LBs currently after the four relative "locks" (Holcomb, Davis, Bostic, Hudson). Special teams will definitely help their cases.

[Burgundy Yoda]

2 hours ago, Vanguard said:

 

 

 

Cosmi looked good.  He got out of his stance a little early on one of those snaps, definitely a false start.  But otherwise, he didn’t play like a rookie imo.  I heard he got blown up on his very first snap in this game though.  I’m inspired by what I saw.

He got better as the game went on, pretty easily noticed in that clip too. 

[Burgundy Yoda]

I'll also say, Dax looks really freaking good running those routes. He looks like a difficult assignment for a DB just by watching the way how he moves.

[mistertim]

2 hours ago, HigSkin said:

 

 

 

Dax looks pretty sharp and quick in his breaks.

 

Also...I've heard of guys getting juked out of their socks before, but never juked out of their gloves like St-Juste there.   

[mistertim]

I think Harmon was dragged down by a few likely culprits: injury, not being very fast or quick (which this staff is clearly looking for), and not being a pick made by this regime. I'd put them in that order as well. I don't think Rivera is a guy who would kick a guy to the curb just because he wasn't his pick, but I'm guessing there would still be a little bit of an even unconscious bias there.

 

Between Harmon and AGG I think AGG has more upside...faster, quicker, and a big catch radius. But I also think AGG is still likely on the outside looking in. If we assume Cam Sims makes it and they will keep 6 receivers then that leaves 1 spot open between AGG, Sims Jr, Milne, and Carter. A couple of them might end up on the PS I suppose.

[Malapropismic Depository]

1 hour ago, dyst said:

Pretty wild that AGG is still on the team while Harmon was released. One has at least shown something in the NFL while the other has not. It’s possible Harmon just hasn’t recovered enough from his injury or maybe just that AGG was drafted by this administration while Harmon was not.

 

Cutting Harmon, by itself, doesn't surprise me.

But the timing greatly surprises me. Seems like it would have been better to wait until near the end of TC.

Though I can see a couple possible exceptions, like one, the team really wants to do him a favor and help him get a head start with another team for this season. Or two, like you said, he may still be hobbling from his injury or not expected to return to full form.

But the looming fact is, there is still almost a month until the opener, and God forbid, we could have multiple key injuries at WR during that time, and thereby end up really needing him.

Also, it's a bit surprising and a bit telling, that people like Milne, a rookie 7th Rounder, have already impressed enough, to stay on the roster, in favor of Harmon.

Perhaps Milne's great punt return had something to do with his stock rising higher than Harmon, especially considering the timing of it.

Then there's AGG. Other than the nice catch that was overturned as a 2-pointer, I don't see what he's done since the time he was drafted, that warrants enough confidence that he's more valuable than Harmon.

So besides the 2 factors I mentioned at the beginning, apparently the 3rd factor must be, like you alluded, the team favoring guys that were brought in by this administration.

[evmiii]

I’m not as sold on P. Barber as the solid get you a couple yard banger as some of you seem to be.  I honestly think I like Patterson’s combo of size and speed in that option.  When Barber comes in everybody knows what’s happening, Patterson gives you a few more options.

[Koolblue13]

I rewatched some of the game today, trying to see what Reyes was doing and I kept finding Bates. He played exceptionally well. Great blocking and was finding the soft holes in the zone. I was really impressed.

[Conn]

I don’t think Rivera cares who was already here and who he drafted aside from the status of their contracts (AGG being under team control for an extra year is an example of this regardless of who drafted him). Just doesn’t seem like his kind of thing to emphasize assuming both equally fit the culture and have equivalent intangibles. Before someone can argue it, yes this takes into account clearing out some of the riff-raff that felt entitled to Jay’s softness in favor of his type of hard-nosed guys—that’s included in culture/intangibles and is important. Preferring “his guys” all else being equal feels too petty to be his style, is all I’m saying.

 

Milne seems to be what people hoped Quinn would be, and Ryan Grant before him—an unexceptional athlete who nevertheless runs great routes and just catches the damn ball when you need him to take some snaps as a depth guy. Of course Quinn and Grant didn’t fully live up to those hopes AND were relied upon too heavily in roles they weren’t good enough for—that won’t be a mistake made with Milne by this regime. If he earns serious reps it’ll be bc he’s way better than anyone thinks, given our depth at WR now. 

Edited August 16, 2021 by ConnSKINS26

[Burgundy Yoda]

23 minutes ago, evmiii said:

I’m not as sold on P. Barber as the solid get you a couple yard banger as some of you seem to be.  I honestly think I like Patterson’s combo of size and speed in that option.  When Barber comes in everybody knows what’s happening, Patterson gives you a few more options.

Patterson plays more like McKissic than Barber. Antonio Gibson is honestly the guy we should use in short yardage situations. I know he's our "ace" runningback, but he's quite obviously the best we have at short yardage situations, he displayed how good he was at it last year by finding the endzone as many times as he did in goal line situations. 

[Koolblue13]

With the WRs, you have TMac as a lock outside all game long. The Samuels is the other starter. When they want to move Samuels inside to do whatever with, Cam will be the one lining up outside. If you need sure handed 3rd down 7 yard play, Humphries is your man and if you really want to stretch the field, Brown will be in with Terry and TMac.

 

That's how I see it all working. That's your 5 WRs. 

 

If something happens to Terry or Curtis, Brown is most likely to fill in their roles and if you need to replace Humphries, Milne is the closest in skill set and he can also excel on STs.

 

I don't think S Sims can do what Samuels does and he's already the 3rd or 4rth best option in the slot.

 

That's how I see the WR roster shaping up, with AGG and Sims most likely going to the PS.

 

Pretty amazing that we've upgraded our WRs so deeply in one offseason.

[Koolblue13]

4 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Patterson plays more like McKissic than Barber. Antonio Gibson is honestly the guy we should use in short yardage situations. I know he's our "ace" running back, but he's quite obviously the best we have at short yardage situations, he displayed how good he was at it last year by finding the endzone as many times as he did in goal line situations. 

Don't really want to wear him down though. Especially when we're playing with a lead and just keep pounding it. That's unnecessary abuse on one of our key offensive weapons.

[Burgundy Yoda]

1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said:

Don't really want to wear him down though. Especially when we're playing with a lead and just keep pounding it. That's unnecessary abuse on one of our key offensive weapons.

You have to put the ball in the hands of your best players. Coddling Gibson doesn't help the team and might cost us a few drives, it's football, he'll be okay. 

[mistertim]

15 hours ago, Alcoholic Zebra said:

 

Has Dyami supplanted Cam Sims on the depth chart?  And has he then also shown more overall ability than Humphries?

 

We don't know how many snaps a game Curtis Samuel gets, but he's going to take a majority.

 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Dyami supplant Cam Sims as the main outside guy opposite Terry. He's faster, quicker, and IMO already runs better routes (my biggest issue with Cam Sims has always been that his routes tend to be sort of sloppy and he doesn't get good separation very often).

 

As far as vs. Humphries I don't think they're fully comparable since Humphries is a pure slot guy. I'm sure Dyami can play slot as well, but I'm guessing he'll be used more outside than in, since we have Samuel and Humphries as inside specialists.

 

Either way, we have a lot of flexibility. A 4 WR set of McLaurin, Samuel, Humphries and Brown is a crapload of speed and talent and could potentially be a nightmare to defend, especially if Thomas continues his trend towards being a top tier TE.