zCommander Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 Just now, KDawg said: Gotta see if he can throw the bigger NFL ball with his small (by QB standards) hands One thing that intrigues me about him is that he is 2-3 inches taller than all other QBs in the upcoming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMeisterGeneral Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I suspect I’m not the only one checking in the morning after the night before, finally ready to get stuck into potential draft QB’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Time to start firing up those Corral and Willis youtube videos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Time to start firing up those Corral and Willis youtube videos And Howell. And Pickett. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakmoney61 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) Unfortunately, Washington needs to take a hard look at getting a QB in the first round. The only way out of picking one in the first is to get a good/great one through free agency or a trade. If they truly see all the the best QB prospects as mid to late first-round picks, then trade down and take one where they feel most comfortable. They cannot go into next year without someone better or potentially better than Heinicke on the roster. Edited December 27, 2021 by cakmoney61 Added a short paragraph. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 This is where things get scary, too. Now it's obvious we are desperate for a QB. This is ripe positioning to be raked over the coals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 hour ago, zskins said: One thing that intrigues me about him is that he is 2-3 inches taller than all other QBs in the upcoming draft. Howell has decent size too at 6'1" 220lbs. At least compared to Corral. Just now, KDawg said: This is where things get scary, too. Now it's obvious we are desperate for a QB. This is ripe positioning to be raked over the coals. It's been obvious all season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Just now, Koolblue13 said: Howell has decent size too at 6'1" 220lbs. At least compared to Corral. It's been obvious all season. It's been obvious we'd be in the market. For sure. But there was some reason to believe Heinicke could be a stop gap, even across the league. After his last two games against Dallas that reason to believe in him being a stop gap is gone. We will need two quarterbacks. Minimum. At minimum Trubisky or someone like him and a first round rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, KDawg said: It's been obvious we'd be in the market. For sure. But there was some reason to believe Heinicke could be a stop gap, even across the league. After his last two games against Dallas that reason to believe in him being a stop gap is gone. We will need two quarterbacks. Minimum. At minimum Trubisky or someone like him and a first round rookie. Trubisky is definitely an upgrade to Heinicke. I still don't know why Allen isn't getting PT. He's as bad of a decision maker as Heinicke, but at least has an NFL arm. I'd trade 2023,24 1rsts and Sweat for Carr and their 2nd this year. Draft Dean or Lloyd and sign Maye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Just now, Koolblue13 said: Trubisky is definitely an upgrade to Heinicke. I still don't know why Allen isn't getting PT. He's as bad of a decision maker as Heinicke, but at least has an NFL arm. I'd trade 2023,24 1rsts and Sweat for Carr and their 2nd this year. Draft Dean or Lloyd and sign Maye. I'd absolutely deal Sweat. I'd be trying hard to package him and a first for a proven QB. But it also depends where we wind up in the draft. If we can get a Howell, Corral or hell, even though I have my doubts on development, a Willis... I'm in on them. Let's start fresh. Again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooseneck Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 But if we trade Sweat who will spread covid through the team next year? Also, we might never get the all time record for sacks by two individuals if he is gone. We are just missing by a little this year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 hours ago, DWinzit said: After last night's performance I expect Danny to stick his hands in the cookie jar, throwing the farm (future) at Rodgers, Wilson or Watson. He will be too impatient to draft a greenhorn rookie. Honestly, it may be the right move if it is Watson. PR be damned 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, method man said: Honestly, it may be the right move if it is Watson. PR be damned Would be very on brand to trade for a guy who may not even be able to play but would count against the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said: Howell has decent size too at 6'1" 220lbs. At least compared to Corral. Read a little bit more about Pickett and his hands. Didn't know he wore two gloves to make his hands bigger and with a fatter NFL football it might or might not be an issue but I guess that would be a concern. OR it maybe the outlier. Okay so Howell it is then....lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, KDawg said: Would be very on brand to trade for a guy who may not even be able to play but would count against the cap. Would be up for the trade if he is cleared of charges obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 31 minutes ago, KDawg said: Would be very on brand to trade for a guy who may not even be able to play but would count against the cap. Certainly, whenever Watson is mentioned it is always under the assumption he is cleared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, DWinzit said: Certainly, whenever Watson is mentioned it is always under the assumption he is cleared I don't think he's going to get cleared. And if he is cleared there likely wouldn't be much negative PR for trading for him I don't think. But maybe I'm wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 minute ago, KDawg said: I don't think he's going to get cleared. And if he is cleared there likely wouldn't be much negative PR for trading for him I don't think. But maybe I'm wrong. I am sure even if cleared their will be negative PR on anyone trading for him. If he produces and stays clean, much of that will be forgotten. See Micah Parsons (so far) Watson is better and has more upside than Carr, Trubisky, and in my opinion a then 34 year old Wilson or 39 year old Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 We need receivers to compliment a new QB. I have zero trust that Samuel will get healthy at this point. I see burrow throwing to THREE good receivers and I get super jealous. That's what we need for our new QB. That means we are at least two receivers short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, DWinzit said: I am sure even if cleared their will be negative PR on anyone trading for him. If he produces and stays clean, much of that will be forgotten. See Micah Parsons (so far) Watson is better and has more upside than Carr, Trubisky, and in my opinion a then 34 year old Wilson or 39 year old Rodgers. Exactly this. At worst, it is not looking like jail time is likely. Investigators are likely dropping charges to a misdemeanor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Watson is paying women to drop the charges and some don't want to. That's not exactly "being cleared". It's paying out of it. There's zero chance the franchise under scrutiny for sexual assault and harassment is going to trade the future to make the face of the franchise a sexual predator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Watson is paying women to drop the charges and some don't want to. That's not exactly "being cleared". It's paying out of it. There's zero chance the franchise under scrutiny for sexual assault and harassment is going to trade the future to make the face of the franchise a sexual predator. Yeah unless he’s actually cleared I just don’t see Watson even being a remote possibility. Well… unless Snyder gets involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) I might be the biggest Matt Corral fan here. Yet i constantly said I like him not love him. He's not an elite talent. If he were I'd think we'd have no shot at him. I don't think there is a QB to love IMO in this draft. No Kyler Murray type in this draft. But we aren't typically in position to get the perceived slam dunk QB prospect anyway. This is the shopping aisle we typically shop in. I do like this shopping aisle better than the 2019 shopping aisle which is the last time we shopped for QBs. As I've mentioned, Ole Miss offense isn't a pro offense. That's part of the adjustment for him. It's heavy RPO. High tempo. Spread. There would be an adjustment for him. Why do I like him? Accuracy -- not just a sweet spot, he's accurate all across the field Makes quick decisions/quick release Mobile -- can run Good arm -- not great but certainly good Makes off platform throws Good decision maker (it wasn't the case last year but he improved big time this season) Tough dude, moxie, gamer -- all the things people love about Heinicke, this dude has those qualities Manipulates safeties well with his eyes/body language. IMO he's the full package. Not because he has great arm talent or is really great at anything. But because he's good at so many things. He has IMO no really major flaws. My only concerns are adapting to a pro style offense and staying healthy. Edited December 27, 2021 by Skinsinparadise 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said: Watson is paying women to drop the charges and some don't want to. That's not exactly "being cleared". It's paying out of it. There's zero chance the franchise under scrutiny for sexual assault and harassment is going to trade the future to make the face of the franchise a sexual predator. ditto according to Keim he's heard this isn't a team Watson wants to go to. Aside from us worrying about the scrutiny, i think it would cut both ways. If Watson came here he would likely be hounded even more on the issue. It would be a bad marriage for both sides. Edited December 27, 2021 by Skinsinparadise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Corral at 9 Pickett at 10 Willis at 12 Howell at 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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