Warhead36 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Having Davis play MLB was a colossal mistake from the start. I can't stand playing players at a position they're not best at and that's something this organization has been doing for 20+ years, its maddening. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Having Davis play MLB was a colossal mistake from the start. I can't stand playing players at a position they're not best at and that's something this organization has been doing for 20+ years, its maddening. Yeah it sure hasn't worked out very well, just like having having Bostic starting two years in row. LB in general has been a sore spot and not much available in FA. I mean maybe a Perryman could have been a better option than Bostic. Then no need to press LB in the 1st, address another need position, then take a LB in the 2nd or 3rd round, like a Werner, Bolton or Barnes. For now, Davis is ultra athletic and hope the game slows down for him....sooooooon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 If we could somehow trade for Carr and keep our first this year, we could grab Dean or Lloyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) It's seasons like this that really make me wish the NFL had a lottery based draft system. We would be the perfect team to benefit from it, as we are always just too good to net a top 3 pick that is required for a Franchise QB. Edited December 27, 2021 by Burgundy Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Well our timing usually sucks, we did have the second pick in 2020 but luckily we didn't take Hebert ☹️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Acre Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Riggo#44 said: Yes, the analytics back that up too: you win most games you are not outscored in. That's true, but my comment was in response to an earlier comment that Gibbs went to a power running game because he did not have the personnel to execute Air Coryell. That is incorrect. At 0-5, the O was leading the league. The D was giving up more points than the O could score. So, he didn't have the right *D* to play Air Coryell, not the right O. Either you knew that (and hence what I meant) or you didn't, but either way, not a good look for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, GothSkinsFan said: That's true, but my comment was in response to an earlier comment that Gibbs went to a power running game because he did not have the personnel to execute Air Coryell. That is incorrect. At 0-5, the O was leading the league. The D was giving up more points than the O could score. So, he didn't have the right *D* to play Air Coryell, not the right O. Either you knew that (and hence what I meant) or you didn't, but either way, not a good look for you. Or, it was a joke and you should settle down... 1 hour ago, DWinzit said: Well our timing usually sucks, we did have the second pick in 2020 but luckily we didn't take Hebert ☹️ Hindsight is 50/50. It would have been a real hard sell, taking him over Young in that draft. I am more of the mind that our token playoff appearance last year cost us Justin Fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 If there is a QB available at our pick in the first and we don't trade the farm for a vet we have to go QB. We will be picking low enough where one of the top 3-4 will be available. There are no other options at this point. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, KDawg said: If there is a QB available at our pick in the first and we don't trade the farm for a vet we have to go QB. We will be picking low enough where one of the top 3-4 will be available. There are no other options at this point. Yeah no doubt. Right now we are picking 9th. The way they are playing of late I doubt they beat the Eagles. I think though they likely beat the Giants who look beyond awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: Yeah no doubt. Right now we are picking 9th. The way they are playing of late I doubt they beat the Eagles. I think though they likely beat the Giants who look beyond awful We can't beat the Giants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Just now, KDawg said: We can't beat the Giants. I watched the Giants today. They looked even worse than we do. But u never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Let me amend that statement. Giants offense looked even worse than ours did. But their defense looked a lot better. So who knows maybe we could lose to the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I think we beat the Giants...but it might not even matter for draft position. We're the only team in the league with 6 wins. 1 more win won't hurt the draft position that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Just lose out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 32 minutes ago, KDawg said: If there is a QB available at our pick in the first and we don't trade the farm for a vet we have to go QB. We will be picking low enough where one of the top 3-4 will be available. There are no other options at this point. If the Texans went QB in the 1st, we should think about trading for Davis Mills. I've barely scouted the QB's in this draft, but every time I do it doesn't inspire confidence. This is an extremely awkward off-season coming up for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Alcoholic Zebra said: If the Texans went QB in the 1st, we should think about trading for Davis Mills. I've barely scouted the QB's in this draft, but every time I do it doesn't inspire confidence. This is an extremely awkward off-season coming up for us. I would think they would want to keep him. He would still have a couple years on his rookie 3rd round contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 minute ago, DWinzit said: I would think they would want to keep him. He would still have a couple years on his rookie 3rd round contract. I wouldn't draft a QB in the 1st if I were them. But if they do, getting draft capital for the backup QB is appealing. At some level having Mills as the backup isn't worth it if the draft picks are good enough. What is good enough? I don't know. 2nd round? 3rd? 4th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alcoholic Zebra said: I wouldn't draft a QB in the 1st if I were them. But if they do, getting draft capital for the backup QB is appealing. At some level having Mills as the backup isn't worth it if the draft picks are good enough. What is good enough? I don't know. 2nd round? 3rd? 4th? I could understand this if Watson never gets cleared so they can't get squat for him. Then the extra capital might be appreciated and the could bring back Tyrod Taylor as the vet. I would want to keep him for his potential and contract numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 33 minutes ago, DWinzit said: I would want to keep him for his potential and contract numbers. If they wanted to keep him for his potential, then they wouldn't spend a 1st rounder on a QB. This is just on the chance they do spend a 1st on a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Watched five games of cut ups for Matt Corral and I'm stuck on a take of liking him but not loving him. I like the decisiveness and touch and the arm talent and I like his try hard energy and toughness, but I don't think he's special in any notable area and I have a hard time seeing any justification for picking him over Willis if both are available. His arm isn't as strong and he's not as creative or fast or strong. And he's not a tremendously instinctive or anticipatory passer either. I don't understand why Willis gets labeled a one read quarterback when Matt Corral makes it to a second read even less than him. The guy throws to his second read maybe four or five times a game at most. 95% of his snaps he is either immediately throwing his first read or he's handing off or running. He's going to face the same development curve as Willis in becoming an instinctive progression reader in the NFL, and he's not as gifted as Willis. If both are on the table when we pick, that wouldn't be a tough choice for me. To me, the really tough choice is between him and Pickett if Willis is already gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Watched five games of cut ups for Matt Corral and I'm stuck on a take of liking him but not loving him. I like the decisiveness and touch and the arm talent and I like his try hard energy and toughness, but I don't think he's special in any notable area and I have a hard time seeing any justification for picking him over Willis if both are available. His arm isn't as strong and he's not as creative or fast or strong. And he's not a tremendously instinctive or anticipatory passer either. I don't understand why Willis gets labeled a one read quarterback when Matt Corral makes it to a second read even less than him. The guy throws to his second read maybe four or five times a game at most. 95% of his snaps he is either immediately throwing his first read or he's handing off or running. He's going to face the same development curve as Willis in becoming an instinctive progression reader in the NFL, and he's not as gifted as Willis. If both are on the table when we pick, that wouldn't be a tough choice for me. To me, the really tough choice is between him and Pickett if Willis is already gone. I think Corral gets through his reads more than Willis. I also think he is much better from an accuracy perspective. He doesn't have the same arm or the athleticism, though he isn't bad in either. I agree that Corral isn't elite in any one place. But I think he is more of a jack of all trades coming out than Willis. If I thought we could develop a guy like Willis I'd be all about drafting him. He has the highest upside of everyone. I just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 We have to take a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 After last night's performance I expect Danny to stick his hands in the cookie jar, throwing the farm (future) at Rodgers, Wilson or Watson. He will be too impatient to draft a greenhorn rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 How is Pickett? Would he be better than Willis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, zskins said: How is Pickett? Would he be better than Willis? Gotta see if he can throw the bigger NFL ball with his small (by QB standards) hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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