TradeTheBeal! Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I’m taking this mom in the 6/7 slot for special teams and a potential nickel LB. 3 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 7 hours ago, TryTheBeal! said: I’m taking this mom in the 6/7 slot for special teams and a potential nickel LB. Better angle than Apke takes. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: That third tier is probably bigger than just those three. I haven't finished watching Mayfield, Carman, and Radunz yet and I want to go back over Vera-Tucker again to try and understand why everyone is so high on him. Of that third tier, I don't think Jenkins will be the one who falls. His film is very good, he should measure well, and I could see him getting drafted in the 20s. There are so many lock down reps and pancake blocks in that film that it's exciting to watch, and it's hard to ding him for athleticism too much when he's doing so much splashy winning. That said, dominating Big 12 defenders as a RT in a fairly run dominant offense isn't the same as what Cosmi and Eichenberg had to do. But he excelled at dominating what was on his plate more than they did. He is very Jack Conklin-esque (although Conklin played LT at Michigan St IIRC) and feels like a safe bet to be a really good NFL RT. I go back and forth on who I like more for us between Eichenberg and Cosmi, as I really like both prospects. Eichenberg is a better run blocker and a more consistent player and Cosmi is a better athlete. Part of me thinks get Eichenberg and a big blocking TE and a power back and just go wholly run dominant on offense. But Cosmi is also a really good schematic fit for us and at his peak, I think he'll be a better pass-blocker. I hope you're right that he's the one who is available to us at 51. If he makes it to the 40s, I don't think I'd chance waiting on him to drop. Same for Eichenberg. I would trade up for both once they reach that range. I'm kind of losing hope for getting Owusu-Koromoah late in round one or in round two due to his consistent high mock draft position. So my new favorite trade down scenario is to move back in the first, get Etienne or Najee Harris (who has frequently been mocked in the second round), and then use some of that trade down ammo to go up in the second and get Cosmi or Eichenberg. Lay the foundation for a run dominant offense, see what we have in Kyle Allen and Taylor Heinecke for the year, and then if they are a mirage, focus on getting a QB in 2022 after we've already put a dominant support group in place. I actually like Eichengerg slightly more than Cosmi but based on what I have seen from Turners offiense I feel like Cosmi is the better fit. Your suggestion of Eich and good blocking TE sounds awesome. I am still going to hope for a Collins/Cosmi one two punch in the first two rounds. The third taking grabbing a slot and DB. I am assuming at least one WR, DB and LB will be addressed in FA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 To Steve, I think Eich, Cosmi and Jenkins would easily fall mid to late first rounds on many past drafts. The strength of this draft from the late first to the the mid second even to the third is amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, DWinzit said: To Steve, I think Eich, Cosmi and Jenkins would easily fall mid to late first rounds on many past drafts. The strength of this draft from the late first to the the mid second even to the third is amazing. It's strong in OTs and edges, which tend to be first round positions. Four first round QBs is also a little more than usual. Very strong in receivers but not as strong as last year, especially once you get past the top four, but those top four are blue chippers. Lot of good little slot types too. Looks pretty good and deep at safety but only one true blue chipper at that position. Corner is weak, much more so than last year. RB and LB have very appealing top end prospects but are otherwise very thin. IDL and IOL are the opposite. No unicorns but a lot of day two and early day three quality. And TE is better than usual and has three star caliber athletes at the top of the class, each of whom are head and shoulders better than the TEs from last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: It's strong in OTs and edges, which tend to be first round positions. Four first round QBs is also a little more than usual. Very strong in receivers but not as strong as last year, especially once you get past the top four, but those top four are blue chippers. Lot of good little slot types too. Looks pretty good and deep at safety but only one true blue chipper at that position. Corner is weak, much more so than last year. RB and LB have very appealing top end prospects but are otherwise very thin. IDL and IOL are the opposite. No unicorns but a lot of day two and early day three quality. And TE is better than usual and has three star caliber athletes at the top of the class, each of whom are head and shoulders better than the TEs from last year. How do you rank your TE’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said: How do you rank your TE’s? Numerically. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Numerically. In order. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, KDawg said: In order. Usually best to worst. Generally in groups of 10. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 You all are so helpful. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Anselmheifer said: You all are so helpful. Anytime 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I've seen him mentioned a few times in here but... 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, HigSkin said: I've seen him mentioned a few times in here but... I need to cool my jets on Tremble and be patient. But targeting him in the 3rd round is my vote. Him plus Logan Thomas is going to be a great TE tandem. Scott Turner (or any competent OC) would go bananas with the misdirection possibilities. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 In the second round, you have Richie Grant, Nasirildeen, and Jabril Cox available. Which one do you take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 12 hours ago, TryTheBeal! said: I’m taking this mom in the 6/7 slot for special teams and a potential nickel LB. Notice she knew she had help on the outside (the woman in the grass) so she instinctively knew her assignment was the street. That's awareness right there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I've watched some Melinfonwu and like him. Don't know the others. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I am sticking with this if this dude drops closer to our pick, which I doubt happens but he does in some mocks, I'd trade up if it involves a third rounder. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Ball Security said: In the second round, you have Richie Grant, Nasirildeen, and Jabril Cox available. Which one do you take? Assuming we don't go with Collins in the 1st, I'd take Cox there. I like Grant a lot, too, but I'd favor the LB. Nasirildeen is behind Grant because of injury history. Cox looks like a LB with a lot of potential. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: I've watched some Melinfonwu and like him. Don't know the others. His brother was a bust. However, I was listening to Tony Pauline and he likes him quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, mhd24 said: His brother was a bust. However, I was listening to Tony Pauline and he likes him quite a bit. I am a sucker for tall corners with long arms like him. A bit raw. 2nd round? I think my favorite for the 2nd round assuming they drop is Elijah Moore or Brevin Jordan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: I am a sucker for tall corners with long arms like him. A bit raw. 2nd round? I think my favorite for the 2nd round assuming they drop is Elijah Moore or Brevin Jordan. I think Matt Miller had Brevin Jordan falling all the way to our pick in the 4th round. Anyone have any Clemson pro day numbers for athletic testing and measurements? When I Google they only talk about the QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Move up for Pitts, grab Harris, Tremble in the 3rd. Just beat the crap out of people and our offense spends 40 minutes on the field every game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Alcoholic Zebra said: I think Matt Miller had Brevin Jordan falling all the way to our pick in the 4th round. Anyone have any Clemson pro day numbers for athletic testing and measurements? When I Google they only talk about the QB Yeah I've seen Jordan everywhere between the 2nd and 4th. I like him. He moves well for a TE. He's not Kyle Pitts but is probably my favorite pass catching TE after him. 15.2 YPC. 7 TDs, 9.3 yards after catch per reception -- last year. He's not the best blocker but he's not a train wreck either on that front. Just looked up his PFF run blocking score, which is 62.5 Edited February 12, 2021 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: I've watched some Melinfonwu and like him. Don't know the others. Interesting that we are looking so heavily at CB and edge. Obviously could just signal that we are losing Kerrigan. I wonder if there could be a hint hiding in there that we are considering moving Montez as part of a QB trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said: Interesting that we are looking so heavily at CB and edge. Obviously could just signal that we are losing Kerrigan. I wonder if there could be a hint hiding in there that we are considering moving Montez as part of a QB trade. Hypothetically, I’d say if we traded Montez then Kerrigan re-signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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