joeken24 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, TheShredder said: Nor would you if you're not in the network that can log into this site. https://www.nflpa.com/agents No, I'm not able to log in but I know who can and that network is the place where all the agents exchange info. The most credible source was verified through Chris Simms' via Donald Penn's agent. Donald Penn refused to sign anywhere he wasn't going to start at LT. He called TW and TW told him he's not coming back. That's the reason he signed with the Skins and Chris Simms verified it through his 'sources' which is the Simms family agent. He also verified that the Skins were not seeking any trade for TW at that time. The W/L stats came from Cass appearing on Chad Dukes vs the world last week. So here's Chris Simms talking about it. Notice he says reading the tea leaves...sounds like he's speculating as well. So this is solid info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aszumilo Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 What if Trent comes back before week 1, gets his salary guaranteed and then gets "injured" in week 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 This is perhaps going to sound crazy . But we know Trent partakes in the herb . Now I do think in terms of pain relief there is a case to be made for its benefits , but one of the common side effects of habitual use is paranoia . The reason I bring this up is because it seems no one really seems to know what the issue is and there are conflicting reports , that he wants a trade but is/was not in football shape - and everyone wants to point at the team - but Trent's side just seems irrational Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poindexter Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, bedlamVR said: This is perhaps going to sound crazy . But we know Trent partakes in the herb . Now I do think in terms of pain relief there is a case to be made for its benefits , but one of the common side effects of habitual use is paranoia . The reason I bring this up is because it seems no one really seems to know what the issue is and there are conflicting reports , that he wants a trade but is/was not in football shape - and everyone wants to point at the team - but Trent's side just seems irrational He must be on the same stuff Antonio Brown is on....that cat right there is not quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo'sRangers Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 4 hours ago, bedlamVR said: But we know Trent partakes in the herb . Now I do think in terms of pain relief there is a case to be made for its benefits , but one of the common side effects of habitual use is paranoia... Reefer Madness...a cult classic. Hail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skintime Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 20 hours ago, Califan007 said: Um...In case you didn't know: Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter And now this: Raiders’ WR Antonio Brown has told team officials that, unless he gets to wear his old helmet, he will not play football again, per league sources. And more.... I **** you not lol. I'd bet we trade for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbeagle85 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 12:32 PM, Unbias said: I'm curious. Based on the current ownership and leadership of this team do you classify them as a 'good team'? It's hard not to look at the W-L record, lack of any playoff success, lack of consistency at QB and HC spots and/or some of the dysfunction that has made it's way into the media and not see an obviously 20+ year trend. Maybe another way of looking at this, why would we start acting like a 'good team' now? It's completely admirable to want the franchise to make 'good team' moves, but to actually anticipate it is another thing all together. I'm saying if they trade him for nothing it will prove this organization is trash. All these fans saying to just trade the guy for whatever, because of the noise aren't the smartest people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbeagle85 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 2:02 PM, Csup said: Exactly. Good teams. Which the Redskins are not. So we should just trade them him for nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 hours ago, desertbeagle85 said: I'm saying if they trade him for nothing it will prove this organization is trash. All these fans saying to just trade the guy for whatever, because of the noise aren't the smartest people. You need a Trent Williams trade to verify that this organization is trash?? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbeagle85 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 minute ago, -JB- said: You need a Trent Williams trade to verify that this organization is trash?? 🤣 No not really ever since Snyder bought this team they've been trash. Trading Trent for nothing would just add to the pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 And as always we get to the "fans" I can't believe. Basically everything you say suggests you have no hope for the team. That leaves only the players to focus on. So why want a player on a team you think is trash? I want people I like to have success. So you should be glad when they go and encourage them to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Skintime said: I'd bet we trade for him I'm sure our training staff can fit him up with a good leather helmet and 1970 single facebar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, desertbeagle85 said: No not really ever since Snyder bought this team they've been trash. Trading Trent for nothing would just add to the pile. Well IF he doesn’t want to play for you anymore you might as well trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan81 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I say unless we get a fair offer he sits for the year. Then check back in with him in 2020. If he stills feels the same then tell him to enjoy the next year off as well. He doesn’t get paid unless he shows up. Love the Silverback but the Skins shouldn’t just trade him for the sake of trading him. However, this is a front office run by Allen. So get ready for a 7th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, skinsfan81 said: I say unless we get a fair offer he sits for the year. Then check back in with him in 2020. If he stills feels the same then tell him to enjoy the next year off as well. He doesn’t get paid unless he shows up. Love the Silverback but the Skins shouldn’t just trade him for the sake of trading him. However, this is a front office run by Allen. So get ready for a 7th round pick. we're going to get a fair offer because more than one team will make an offer for a guy like Trent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderDOOM Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Patriots,Colts,Houston,Cards, and the Browns are a few teams that should be blowing up the phone with Bruce. But I fear Bruce would be on some 'cut his nose' type **** and try to hold on to TW lest he look like he's caving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, carex said: we're going to get a fair offer because more than one team will make an offer for a guy like Trent Hopefully by the end of preseason, and not near the trade deadline, because I don't want the distraction during the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundancer91 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Screw him he can sit for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbeagle85 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 hours ago, -JB- said: Well IF he doesn’t want to play for you anymore you might as well trade him. Not for nothing. He's under contract either way for 2 years. 4 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Hopefully by the end of preseason, and not near the trade deadline, because I don't want the distraction during the regular season. You act like there won't be a new distraction after this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I hearing something recently from citing Jerry brewer and a number of other sources . It appears Trent was advised to get the growth on his head looked at two years ago by Redskins medical staff, they thought it might be nothing serious, but probably should get it checked out . He didn't . Now when he eventually did go to another doctor they said it appeared very serious to the extent he was told to get his affairs in order . To me this second oppinion - spurred Trent into action but was wholey irrisponsable of the doctor involved . Until you know something is serious then the best practice is to not worry the patient because all stress does is make things worse . As it turns out the Redskins doctors were right . When something is described as pre-cancerous they are describing something that is not cancerous, but is representative of an abnormal growth . This can include tumours but also cysts, moles, actinic keratosis (raised spots on the skin) . These can become cancerous over time, but depending on the size and where it is most doctors will suggest you monitor it but if it changes in shape or size or sensitivity because the surgury required to remove it is more risky or detremental than the actual risk . What annoys me about the reporting on this , is there seems to be an implication the medical staff is incompetent. What this is is Trent looking for a new contract, and I don't think he sees the Redskins winning anything anytime soon so he wants to play on a more competitive team . I don't think there is anything wrong with that but don't thow other people, people who make a fraction of his salary, under a bus for doing their job .. it's just not a great look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougarrick Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I would make him sit and lose money if the above post is correct info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Misdirection” Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Trying to think of benefits for the FO to wait it out: If he sits out the entire year, and doesn’t collect any money, that’s unspent cap dollars. Can they be rolled over to next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, LLandryistheshiz said: Trying to think of benefits for the FO to wait it out: If he sits out the entire year, and doesn’t collect any money, that’s unspent cap dollars. Can they be rolled over to next season? The benefit is not setting a new policy that says if you're unhappy with your contract that has multiple years left, you can force a chance. Look, if somebody wants to trade for him and it's a good deal. I'd pull the trigger now. Trent isn't the difference between contending and not. But that also sends a message that NBA tactics work. Right now you wait. See what happens over the next 2-3 weeks around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Misdirection” Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 49 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: The benefit is not setting a new policy that says if you're unhappy with your contract that has multiple years left, you can force a chance. Look, if somebody wants to trade for him and it's a good deal. I'd pull the trigger now. Trent isn't the difference between contending and not. But that also sends a message that NBA tactics work. Right now you wait. See what happens over the next 2-3 weeks around the league. Perhaps I worded incorrectly. I agree with you, I was trying to think of additional ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, LLandryistheshiz said: Trying to think of benefits for the FO to wait it out: If he sits out the entire year, and doesn’t collect any money, that’s unspent cap dollars. Can they be rolled over to next season? 49 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: The benefit is not setting a new policy that says if you're unhappy with your contract that has multiple years left, you can force a chance. Look, if somebody wants to trade for him and it's a good deal. I'd pull the trigger now. Trent isn't the difference between contending and not. But that also sends a message that NBA tactics work. Right now you wait. See what happens over the next 2-3 weeks around the league. his contract would also get rolled over, though with the situation with the CBA that might not matter And holding out to force a change has long been a tactic in the NFL. How much it works is entirely on the players and team. it would not be a new precedent by any means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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