BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 45 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Get Donaldson. We still have a championship window open. I misread that. Thought we GOT Donaldson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheGoodBits Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I really don't get the hesitation to offer that 4th year. I mean I'd prefer not to obviously but if other teams are willing to go 4, we need to as well. He can always move to 1B or DH in a couple years when his 3B defense starts to suffer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I wouldn’t offer Donaldson 4 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, -JB- said: I wouldn’t offer Donaldson 4 years. For once, we agree. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 If it takes 4 years to get him, they need to do it. Their other options suck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: If it takes 4 years to get him, they need to do it. Their other options suck. yeah unless Rizzo knows for certain he has a viable trade option out there there is a crater sized hole in the middle of the lineup right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: If it takes 4 years to get him, they need to do it. Their other options suck. Well, obviously I'd have preferred the other option that's no longer available, but you're probably right that this is the least bad of the available options. Really don't like paying him 25 mil when he's 38 though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 minute ago, StillUnknown said: yeah unless Rizzo knows for certain he has a viable trade option out there there is a crater sized hole in the middle of the lineup right now The thing with trades is that to get a good player you have to give up good players/prospects. We don’t have a lot of good prospects right now. Additionally, all the big names I’ve seen tossed around make nearly as much money as we’re talking about paying Donaldson (Bryant) or more (Arenado). Bryant only has at best two years of team control. We aren’t giving up premium players/prospects for Arenado when we could have just paid Rendon. Donaldson on a 4 year deal is by far the best option out of these. 1 minute ago, bearrock said: Well, obviously I'd have preferred the other option that's no longer available, but you're probably right that this is the least bad of the available options. Really don't like paying him 25 mil when he's 38 though. The 4th year is his age 37 season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 minute ago, skinsfan_1215 said: The thing with trades is that to get a good player you have to give up good players/prospects. We don’t have a lot of good prospects right now. Additionally, all the big names I’ve seen tossed around make nearly as much money as we’re talking about paying Donaldson (Bryant) or more (Arenado). Bryant only has at best two years of team control. We aren’t giving up premium players/prospects for Arenado when we could have just paid Rendon. Donaldson on a 4 year deal is by far the best option out of these. I largely agree. if we could somehow swing Bryant without giving up Robles, that would be my #1 option. if a combo of Kieboom, Will Crowe, Rutledge or Denauburg were enough, i'd rather do that than pay Donaldson. otherwise, Donaldson needs to be the target. Market dictates the price and the price is 4 years, thats just what we have to do. if we are serious about defending next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Isn't Bryant set to be a FA next year? I wouldn't want to give up Kiebloom for a 1 year rental. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: The 4th year is his age 37 season. You're right. Still don't like it though, but perhaps a little less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Isn't Bryant set to be a FA next year? I wouldn't want to give up Kiebloom for a 1 year rental. He's arbitration eligible in 2021, free agent in 2022. it would be 2 years of team control. could benefit us to get a really good player looking to produce so he can cash in Edited December 20, 2019 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Isn't Bryant set to be a FA next year? I wouldn't want to give up Kiebloom for a 1 year rental. His arbitration will decide whether he has 1 or 2 years left till free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: He's arbitration eligible in 2021, free agent in 2022. it would be 2 years of team control. could benefit us to get a really good player looking to produce so he can cash in I'd rather have many years of Kieboom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said: I'd rather have many years of Kieboom. Thats plenty reasonable. Its mainly a gut feeling, but i'm not as high on his overall potential. i think his value is better as a trade chip. Edited December 20, 2019 by StillUnknown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) Sounds like the pack is thinning out in the Donaldson race and we're still favorites. Should have this figured out soon and I'm good with that because I want to move on to other areas of concern, like shoring up the bullpen. Edited December 20, 2019 by Bacon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: Thats plenty reasonable. Its mainly a gut feeling, but i'm not as high on his overall potential. i think his value is better as a trade chip. Come on now. Those baby blues are invaluable!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 i only respect heterochromia 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoneMessedUp Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: Thats plenty reasonable. Its mainly a gut feeling, but i'm not as high on his overall potential. i think his value is better as a trade chip. Agreed. But then I thought the same about Giolito so what do I know Edited December 20, 2019 by DoneMessedUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) Carter Kieboom was rushed last season due to injuries, obviously. I don’t think Rizzo ever envisioned him even coming up that soon. He did look good in the spring even hit 2 dingers off Verlander. Clearly his defense wasn’t up to par at SS but since he doesn’t project to ever need to play there for the Nats that’s a good thing. I think he has potential to have a pretty good MLB bat with some pop. I’m all in dealing him as the main piece in a Kris Bryant trade if possible. No way in hell do we give up Robles though. Edited December 20, 2019 by -JB- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riggo#44 Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 Merry Christmas to my fellow World Series Champion Washington Nationals fans. May your trees be filled with World Series Champion Washington Nationals gear! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 i bought a Nike Soto fake and and a Zimmeran Navy Jersey from DHGate. Let's see how well they come out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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