Springfield Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Everything I’ve read says that baseball contracts are declining so maybe Harper gets only $250m over 10 in another two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: Harper took the sure thing. That’s my point. Since he decided to forgo his last two years of high school, he hasn’t done the sure thing. This is the first time he didn’t bet on himself when he probably had the most leverage to do so. Edited March 2, 2019 by BenningRoadSkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: That’s my point. Since he decided to forgo his last two years of high school, he hasn’t done the sure thing. This is the first time he didn’t bet on himself when he probably had the most leverage to do so. The sure thing isn't all about things Harper can control. The market has changed dramatically recently. He's protected himself against changes to the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 2 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said: Does anyone else think Harper and Boras left a lot of money out there? The Dodgers apparently offered him a deal that was going to average over 45 million the next 4 years. Why not sign that deal and the. Go back into free agency in your prime and sign a contract that has an average salary higher for 10 years? It’s weird because Harper been betting on himself since he turned 15 yet he decided not to here. I don’t know. I think Harper knows deep down that there's a good chance he's not going to perform to the level the market currently dictates. Either due to his performance over the past three seasons or declining contract values league-wide, I think he panicked and took the sure thing. Plus, he got a chance to briefly make history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) Rizzo "a real one" as the kids say. Edited March 2, 2019 by CRobi21 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Rizzo sent Bryce to Philly as a double agent 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 When you realize you've made a terrible choice. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Hmmm, finally a press conference faux pas to top the maroon and black 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, bearrock said: Hmmm, finally a press conference faux pas to top the maroon and black Thought the exact same thing when I saw that. Bryce bringing us a championship without even having to pay him. Moneyball! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Seeing that Phillies uni is gross. Something about that font used for "phillies" unsettles me...it looks like the unholy aftermath of eating Taco Bell when everything comes out like soft-serve ice cream. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 So I'm seeing rumor that we're one of the few teams actually kicking the tires on Kimbrel, and possibly the only team willing to offer him a longer deal. His asking price is probably too steep though, but it would interesting seeing his weird eagle stance thing he does on a frequent basis. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Kimbrel at closer with Doolittle at setup would also shore up the lefty bullpen need (One of Grace or Solis may pan out. Hoping for both to pan out would be looking to hit the lottery). 6/100 is insane but even a 3 or even a 4 year deal may make sense. Probably not 4 actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, bearrock said: Kimbrel at closer with Doolittle at setup would also shore up the lefty bullpen need (One of Grace or Solis may pan out. Hoping for both to pan out would be looking to hit the lottery). 6/100 is insane but even a 3 or even a 4 year deal may make sense. Probably not 4 actually. Holy ****... I hadn’t read up on any of his contract rumors but good lord his 6/100 asking price is absurd, especially coming off a somewhat down year with him turning 31. I can see why Boston was apparently not interested in bringing him back. For me, if the Nats can get him for a reasonable term I’m game. If it turns out they get him because they’re the only team stupid enough to give him 4+ years, hardest of passes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, bearrock said: Kimbrel at closer with Doolittle at setup would also shore up the lefty bullpen need (One of Grace or Solis may pan out. Hoping for both to pan out would be looking to hit the lottery). 6/100 is insane but even a 3 or even a 4 year deal may make sense. Probably not 4 actually. that man got a brass set asking for 6 years need him to pass a drug test before I offer any contract at this point On the flipside, Doolittle seems intelligent enough not to get wrapped up in saves/closer madness, I dont think they would have a problem coexisting Edited March 3, 2019 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 Feels like when we signed Soriano... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Feels like when we signed Soriano... Guarantee if we sign him it will come out later that the Lerners pushed it. And I bet they’ll give him 5yr $80m (with $40m deferred). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Metalhead Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Riggo#44 said: Feels like when we signed Soriano... Ugh, I thought I scrubbed those memories out with Comet...nope, still there. Imo, Rizzo's bane has been the closer spot. The only thing he has repeatedly struggled with and arguably failed at. And Treinen killing it last season didn't help (Blake needed that change of scenery to do that though). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Metalhead said: Ugh, I thought I scrubbed those memories out with Comet...nope, still there. Imo, Rizzo's bane has been the closer spot. The only thing he has repeatedly struggled with and arguably failed at. And Treinen killing it last season didn't help (Blake needed that change of scenery to do that though). And seeing Vazquez (fka Rivero) in Pittsburgh, as well. He did well to bring in Melancon and Doolittle--and those moves were wholly necessary. We seriously need to look at how we develop pitchers in general. The last pitcher we successfully developed was Roark. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I think signing Kimbrel would put us over the luxury threshold, and I'm not clear on the impact that would have on signing others to long term deals. That said, our bullpen has serious injury concerns. Rosenthal is coming back from TJ, Doolittle and Barraclough both spent time on the DL last year, Glover is already shut down, we need another arm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Riggo#44 said: With the bats in the NL East. I would like to see them go for a number of pitchers right now. Overpay on short term deals if you can. Said this a few pages ago. dallas keuchel, Craig Kimbrel, Tony Sipp. I'd like all 3. But if you can get me Keuchel and one of the others. That's pretty good. If we didn't have MaT as their 3rd of 4th OF depending on Robles. I would seriously look at Adam Jones. Good leadership guy. Was productive. Just 33 in Bmore where they can't afford to have guys who won't be around after a rebuild playing. 4 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: I think signing Kimbrel would put us over the luxury threshold, and I'm not clear on the impact that would have on signing others to long term deals. That said, our bullpen has serious injury concerns. Rosenthal is coming back from TJ, Doolittle and Barraclough both spent time on the DL last year, Glover is already shut down, we need another arm. Right. On paper, we look fine there. In reality, we're not fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 We could possibly add one expensive arm, but probably not two. I think Nats really want to stay below lux threshold this year to reset the clock. They could spread out Zimmerman's contract and maybe tack on a year or two to create room. He's owed 18 this year and 2 mil buy out next year, so maybe 3/30 or 4/40 gets it done. That would create enough room to sign Kimbrel without going over the threshold this year assuming an AAV of 17-18 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 There is 0% chance we bring in Keuchel. 0%. Our rotation is set. Kimbrel is much more likely, even of remote. Like pretty mich everyone, I still want a lefty reliever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 We have 7 starters right now and 3 battling for the 5 spot (Ross, Hellickson and Fedde). We are going to add pen help vs starting pitching. We have a playoff rotation but we need to shorten the game ever more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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